# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20845 "2018-05-31T12:28:54Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> …John Ya Ya, John Many Jars, John Smallberries…

I love you, John Worfin.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20846 "2018-05-31T12:34:02Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> A [CNBC reporter](https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/1001789353197260800) said he saw Melania in the West Wing on Tuesday.

From the comments: “Was she bleeding from her …wherever?” 😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20847 "2018-05-31T12:35:37Z")

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OT: I tried to convince my husband to stick with BB until at least the arrival of John Bigbooté. Sadly, he was bored. BORED! I don’t understand him.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20848 "2018-05-31T12:56:46Z")

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> [@wonky](#):
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> OT: I tried to convince my husband to stick with BB until at least the arrival of John Bigbooté. Sadly, he was bored. BORED! I don’t understand him.

Big Boo-TAY!! Boo-TAY!!

Back to topic, I doubt that there is anything wrong with FLOTUS outside of perhaps wanting some peace and quiet restored to her life. Of all the Trump adults, I’m willing to cut her more slack than most.

That said, the tweet is likely to cause more twittering among the ‘chatty classes’ than before. We’ll see.  
Back on topic, the New York Post, that paragon of good taste and culture :dubious:, had this regarding the Trump-Kim (Kardasian) meeting…[x.com](https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1001968236966137857/photo/1?tfw_creator=usatoday&tfw_site=usatoday&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fonpolitics%2F2018%2F05%2F31%2Ftrump-kim-kardashian-new-york-post-cover-white-house-meeting%2F658359002%2F)

Expect explosions shortly from the White House…

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20849 "2018-05-31T13:08:50Z")

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[Huffington Post](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-tweet_us_5b0f065fe4b03368a94e2be9) has an interesting piece on the Melania tweet. It turns out that the language closely resembles that of the lardass in chief.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20850 "2018-05-31T13:47:24Z")

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Trump is [pardoning Dinesh D’souza](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/trump-says-hell-pardon-conservative-filmmaker-dinesh-dsouza-615326), because the president of the United States is a walking youtube comment section, and is not at all a message about his willingness to use the pardon.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20851 "2018-05-31T13:48:48Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> [Huffington Post](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-tweet_us_5b0f065fe4b03368a94e2be9) has an interesting piece on the Melania tweet. It turns out that the language closely resembles that of the lardass in chief.

Fake news. That tweet was written by Trump’s long-time spokesperson John Barron.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20852 "2018-05-31T13:57:04Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Big Boo-TAY!! Boo-TAY!!
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> Back to topic, I doubt that there is anything wrong with FLOTUS outside of perhaps wanting some peace and quiet restored to her life. Of all the Trump adults, I’m willing to cut her more slack than most.
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> That said, the tweet is likely to cause more twittering among the ‘chatty classes’ than before. We’ll see.  
> Back on topic, the New York Post, that paragon of good taste and culture :dubious:, had this regarding the Trump-Kim (Kardasian) meeting…[x.com](https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1001968236966137857/photo/1?tfw_creator=usatoday&tfw_site=usatoday&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fonpolitics%2F2018%2F05%2F31%2Ftrump-kim-kardashian-new-york-post-cover-white-house-meeting%2F658359002%2F)
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> Expect explosions shortly from the White House…

Definitely better than the Daily News cover - although theirs was pretty good, too.

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1001990216549322752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2018%2F05%2F31%2Fny-post-crushes-ny-daily-news-in-the-battle-of-kim-kardashian-covers-and-its-not-even-close%2F>

But the Post is the winner - and they are the Fox News of the tabloids. I was surprised. “Big-Ass Summit” was my favorite part.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20853 "2018-05-31T14:05:43Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> From the comments: “Was she bleeding from her …wherever?” 😃

I heard she was bleeding badly from a facelift.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20854 "2018-05-31T14:13:00Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> If we remove the word “the”, it sounds way more authentic.
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> > [@Real Melania](#):
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> > I see media is working overtime speculating where I am & what I’m doing. Rest assured, I’m here at @WhiteHouse w my family, feeling great, & working hard on behalf of [del]moose and squirrel[/del] children & American people!

(my edits)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20855 "2018-05-31T14:37:25Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This is getting weird. There is roughly zero chance she wrote this.

Maybe she could be like that pilot held by the North Vietnamese who, forced to read their prepared statement, blinked L-I-E-S.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20856 "2018-05-31T16:15:32Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump is [pardoning Dinesh D’souza](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/trump-says-hell-pardon-conservative-filmmaker-dinesh-dsouza-615326),

The message couldn’t be clearer: “do whatever you want; if you’re on our side, we’ll just pardon you”.

Michael Cohen won’t turn. He’ll sit tight and get pardoned. So will Manafort and the rest.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20857 "2018-05-31T16:23:53Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump is [pardoning Dinesh D’souza](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/trump-says-hell-pardon-conservative-filmmaker-dinesh-dsouza-615326), because the president of the United States is a walking youtube comment section, and is not at all a message about his willingness to use the pardon.

Hasn’t D’souza already completed his sentence? What’s getting pardoned going to do for him?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20858 "2018-05-31T16:38:19Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Hasn’t D’souza already completed his sentence? What’s getting pardoned going to do for him?

Vote and own guns.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20859 "2018-05-31T16:41:53Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Hasn’t D’souza already completed his sentence? What’s getting pardoned going to do for him?

It would (I think) remove penalties due to being a convicted felon, such as loss of the right to vote. (I don’t know if this applies specifically to D’Souza.)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20860 "2018-05-31T16:54:38Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The message couldn’t be clearer: “do whatever you want; if you’re on our side, we’ll just pardon you”.
> 
> Michael Cohen won’t turn. He’ll sit tight and get pardoned. So will Manafort and the rest.

If the next Congress is so inclined, each Trump pardon could be a count in his article of impeachment, under the “Abuse of Power” heading. For crissake, D’Souza pleaded guilty. It’s not like he was railroaded in a flagrant miscarriage of justice.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20861 "2018-05-31T16:59:24Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The message couldn’t be clearer: “do whatever you want; if you’re on our side, we’ll just pardon you”.
> 
> Michael Cohen won’t turn. He’ll sit tight and get pardoned. So will Manafort and the rest.

Eh, there’s multiple messages:

1. “Yo, base, sorry I couldn’t do a thing about Rosanne, but I’m going to pardon a man who is 1,000X the racist she is! He’s very fine people!”
2. “Hey, Mickey! Lookie what I got for ya!”

Also, there’s another message, made by Mr. Cohen’s lawyer:

“You do know the President can only pardon for Federal crimes, right? He cannot do anything about the various State charges which will be headed your way, especially if the State AG’s think the Feds are letting you off softly or if they think the pardon is affecting your cooperation.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20862 "2018-05-31T17:06:55Z")

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[This administration takes school shootings seriously](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/sanders-student-school-shootings.html)? Looks more like the only thing being taken seriously is whatever position is seen to benefit the administration the most, especially the iDJiT in chief, at any given time.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20863 "2018-05-31T17:20:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Among Barr’s remarks about Jarrett, were that she was a Muslim. Jarrett’s not a Muslim. So a false accusation that somebody is a Muslim…
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> …Maybe Trump doesn’t know which President he is.

Jarrrett was born in Iran, so obviously, she’s a Muslim.  
Not.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20864 "2018-05-31T17:23:22Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [This administration takes school shootings seriously](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/sanders-student-school-shootings.html)? Looks more like the only thing being taken seriously is whatever position is seen to benefit the administration the most, especially the iDJiT in chief, at any given time.

Note, though, that Sarah the Huckster never answered the kid’s question.

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