# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1050
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20985 "2018-06-04T05:12:33Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’m wondering more and more about Melania’s disappearance. Didn’t think very much about that tweet she sent out until people started pointing out it just didn’t sound at all like her. The White House says she keeps having regular meetings but with whom? Has anyone said they’ve met with her recently? I’m not one of those who feel sorry for her, she’s just a gold-digging East European hooker who bit off more than she can chew. But she _is_ First Lady – or was, assuming she’s still alive – so the disappearance holds one’s interest. > > Interesting theories so far: > > 1. She’s really a lot – A LOT – sicker than has been let on. > 2. President Chump beat the bejesus out of her, and she needs time for the wounds to disappear. > 3. She’s hiding out in New York while preparing to file for a divorce. > 4. She is having a major nervous breakdown and has been locked away. > > Funniest episode thus far is Chump outdoors pointing at a window and telling reporters, “Look, look. There she is, looking out!” But not a single reporter saw anyone. Sounds like a stunt from _The Producers_. 1. Recovering from plastic surgery. She’s on the north side of 40, thinking of sprucing up/firming up/ lifting up. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20986 "2018-06-04T05:30:22Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Funniest episode thus far is Chump outdoors pointing at a window and telling reporters, “Look, look. There she is, looking out!” But not a single reporter saw anyone. Sounds like a stunt from _The Producers_. > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, this seemed oddly eerie to me, as well. Reminded me of Hitchcock’s PSYCHO, with Mama Bates passing by a window. Or Clouzot’s LES DIABOLIQUES, with the dead man appearing in the window. Way too highbrow for me. I’m sticking with _Weekend at Bernie’s_. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20987 "2018-06-04T07:14:35Z")
A couple of Twitter sleuths just dug up [this exchange from 2013](https://twitter.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/391293803958505472) which implies that Loser Donald has tweeted under Melania’s name before; > [@Loser Donald](#): > > I love watching the dishonest writers @NYMag suffer the magazine’s failure. > [@Dan Amira](#): > > Your wife is waiting for you to die > [@Melanie](#): > > . @DanAmira @NYMag Only a dumb “animal” would say that! You should be fired from your failing magazine! Calling people animals? Check. Misplaced punctuation? Check. Multiple exclamation points? Check. “Failing” as an insult? Check. Demanding someone be fired? Check. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20988 "2018-06-04T08:17:52Z")
A little hijack from the Melania speculation but does anyone else see the giant envelope from North Korea as deliberate trolling by Kim? It’s hysterical how small it made Trump’s hands look. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20989 "2018-06-04T10:22:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Rudy says Trump could have shot Comey in the Oval Office and he couldn’t be indicted for it. > [Giuliani: Trump Could Have Shot Comey And Still Couldn’t Be Indicted For It | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-shoot-comey_us_5b145897e4b02143b7cd633e)? That’s actually genius. trump shoots Mueller to end the investigation and if the house tries to impeach him, trump can shoot THEM also and he’s clear. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20990 "2018-06-04T11:37:55Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > Is making a tidy profit from advance knowledge of economic indicators a crime? I’m thinking that technically it’s not inside trading. Maybe not inside trading but certainly the SEC would prosecute if they could prove it. Definitely security fraud violation of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20991 "2018-06-04T12:43:16Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Must be Christian or at least willing to pretend. Here’s the question of the month: Is Trump our first truly atheistic president? How would the RR react if (if true) they truly grasped that? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20992 "2018-06-04T12:48:26Z")
No, I think there have been many Presidents, just like there are many common folks, who put up a pretense and go through the motions so they can be accepted socially by the Believers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20993 "2018-06-04T12:59:03Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > A little hijack from the Melania speculation but does anyone else see the giant envelope from North Korea as deliberate trolling by Kim? It’s hysterical how small it made Trump’s hands look. It’s just more proof that Trump can be played easier than a game of one-in-a-row tick-tack-toe. Did you see his grin? And let’s not forget who the [scum who delivered the [del]toddler toy[/del] diplomatic note](http://time.com/5292956/kim-yong-chol-north-korea/) is. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20994 "2018-06-04T13:00:52Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > A little hijack from the Melania speculation but does anyone else see the giant envelope from North Korea as deliberate trolling by Kim? It’s hysterical how small it made Trump’s hands look. hysterical! no way that is an accident 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20995 "2018-06-04T13:04:41Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Here’s the question of the month: > > Is Trump our first truly atheistic president? How would the RR react if (if true) they truly grasped that? Thomas Jefferson was certainly not a Christian in a sense that would be accepted by any real Christian. Ronald Reagan never demonstrated any real interest in Christianity. I don’t think Andrew Johnson was a religious man. Eisenhower was raised in a family that was in the religion now known as Jehovah’s Witnesses; his going to West Point and becoming a soldier would suggest he rejected some or all of that. Lincoln was often said to have no real religious beliefs. Taft was a Unitarian. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20996 "2018-06-04T13:09:58Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Is Trump our first truly atheistic president? How would the RR react if (if true) they truly grasped that? I’d guess the RR already believes Hillary Clinton is an atheist, which means you can’t much expect them to say “oh, dang, we should’ve voted for her instead of him.” And, assuming Trump runs against a Dem in ‘20, the RR will presumably believe said Dem to _also_ be an atheist, prompting a “so, do we vote for the atheist who signs bills we love and names the right folks to the Supreme Court, or for the other atheist?” ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20997 "2018-06-04T13:59:55Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d guess the RR already believes Hillary Clinton is an atheist, which means you can’t much expect them to say “oh, dang, we should’ve voted for her instead of him.” And, assuming Trump runs against a Dem in ‘20, the RR will presumably believe said Dem to _also_ be an atheist, prompting a “so, do we vote for the atheist who signs bills we love and names the right folks to the Supreme Court, or for the other atheist?” They do. the RR believes that someone who regularly goes to church, has taught Sunday School, is known to frequently read the Bible, runs a Bible study, sends people Bible verses in email (as manner of comforting them), and is known to pray is an athiest. They believe the guy who also regularly attended church services, also peppered his speeches with Bible verses and hymns is a secret Muslim. And they believe that Mr. “Two Corinthians” who hasn’t darkened the door of a church is a Real True Christian. The RR is nuts. They’re also exceptionally bad at identifying someone’s religion. But that’s a thing we already knew and not part of the clusterfuck that is the administration. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20998 "2018-06-04T14:15:22Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > A little hijack from the Melania speculation but does anyone else see the giant envelope from North Korea as deliberate trolling by Kim? It’s hysterical how small it made Trump’s hands look. Can you link to a pic? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20999 "2018-06-04T14:19:31Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > They do. the RR believes that someone who regularly goes to church, has taught Sunday School, is known to frequently read the Bible, runs a Bible study, sends people Bible verses in email (as manner of comforting them), and is known to pray is an athiest. They believe the guy who also regularly attended church services, also peppered his speeches with Bible verses and hymns is a secret Muslim. And they believe that Mr. “Two Corinthians” who hasn’t darkened the door of a church is a Real True Christian. The idea seems to be that he’s gonna save the babies and the guns, so he’s God’s Chosen. That’s a man’s role anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21000 "2018-06-04T14:51:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Can you link to a pic? Have a [pic](https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/104429157/pushing-the-envelope-why-was-kims-letter-for-trump-so-big). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21001 "2018-06-04T17:18:42Z")
Richard Grenell, US Ambassador to Germany, is in hot water with the German government after an interview with Breitbart where he said encouraged right wing nationalistic European parties. > **[US Ambassador to Germany provokes backlash with Breitbart interview | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/richard-grenell-germany-breitbart-intl/index.html)** > > Politicians on both sides of the Atlantic have criticized the US Ambassador for telling Breitbart that he wants to "empower" European conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21002 "2018-06-04T17:23:32Z")
Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon was denied entry to an immigration holding center and cops were called on him. > **[Oregon Senator Denied Entry To Immigration Detention Center, Has Police...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeff-merkley-immigration-detention-center_n_5b149d32e4b010565aad1076)** > > "Children should never be ripped from their families," Sen. Jeff Merkley tweeted after the encounter. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21003 "2018-06-04T18:06:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon was denied entry to an immigration holding center and cops were called on him. > [Oregon Senator Denied Entry To Immigration Detention Center, Has Police Called On Him | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-merkley-immigration-detention-center_us_5b149d32e4b010565aad1076) > [@From Link](#): > > In the video, Merkley said he was going to try to tour the facility after his staff attempted to set up a meeting to do so last week. He can be seen walking up to the building, **which he says is a former Walmart with blacked-out windows and locked doors,** where he is told that he can’t come in, but that her supervisor would come meet the senator outside. (emphasis mine) Wasn’t there a conspiracy theory about Obama using closed Walmarts as secret FEMA detention facilities. It seems that Trump administration is going out of its way to actually do everything that Obama was falsely accused of. Keep an eye out, if his administration starts frequenting a shady looking pizza joint with a large basement. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21004 "2018-06-04T18:36:43Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Wasn’t there a conspiracy theory about Obama using closed Walmarts as secret FEMA detention facilities. [Yes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/walmartyrs-to-the-cause/). [Denver International Airport, too.](https://gizmodo.com/5807582/proof-that-denver-airport-is-one-of-the-most-evil-places-on-earth) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1049) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1051)