# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1051
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21005 "2018-06-04T18:57:04Z")
We’ve had several presidents who were too intelligent to be believers. Maybe into the double digits! Within the past couple of years, I’ve learned that Warren G. Harding was able to play the Sousaphone. No one who has ever played the Sousaphone would be capable of believing in a rational god. **ElvisL1ves @20999:** My lord, I love that conspiracy theory. I may need to make a special trip to Denver just to check out the airport (plus the colossal demonic horse just down the road). ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21006 "2018-06-04T19:03:45Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > And they believe that Mr. “Two Corinthians” who hasn’t darkened the door of a church is a Real True Christian. A recent Tom Tomorrow strip borrowed [some Neil Gaiman imagery](https://images.dailykos.com/images/541196/story_image/TMW2018-05-18color.png?1526070125) which the above post reminded me of. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21007 "2018-06-04T19:06:41Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I may need to make a special trip to Denver just to check out the airport (plus the colossal demonic horse just down the road). Every time I drive by the giant horse with the flaming red eyes I start singing “Ghost Riders in the Sky”. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21008 "2018-06-04T19:13:41Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > . . . . **ElvisL1ves @20999:** My lord, I love that conspiracy theory. I may need to make a special trip to Denver just to check out the airport (plus the colossal demonic horse just down the road). The demon horse story is just too much fun to get upset about. As the linked article says, it did kill its creator. Also, no matter how many times someone says that the eyes are orange to match the Bronco’s colors, they look red. If it’s got glowing red eyes, I’m going to smile at demon horse stories. The airport CT is just boring bunk. Anyone who says that the only way those art pieces got installed is to aid some nefarious scheme has never sat in on a public art committee meeting. Committees are strange beasts. Public Art Committees are doubly so. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21009 "2018-06-04T20:25:00Z")
[Pentagon opens investigation into Ronny Jackson.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/pentagon-investigation-ronny-jackson/index.html) Only the best. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21010 "2018-06-04T20:28:19Z")
Oh for Pete’s sake! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21011 "2018-06-04T20:41:36Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Oh for Pete’s sake! 😃 Uhh, that ^ > [@Nava](#): > > Have a [pic](https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/104429157/pushing-the-envelope-why-was-kims-letter-for-trump-so-big). Was about that. ^ Thanks, **Nava**! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21012 "2018-06-04T20:46:03Z")
Trump plans to nominate Steve Bannon fan boy Mike Pack to oversee the Voice of America/Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. [White House announces plan to nominate conservative documentarian, Bannon ally, to lead government media agency](http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/02/media/bbg-pack-nomination-plan/index.html)? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21013 "2018-06-04T20:46:16Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [Pentagon opens investigation into Ronny Jackson.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/pentagon-investigation-ronny-jackson/index.html) > > Only the best. The extreme vetting is supposed to take place \*before \*the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21014 "2018-06-04T20:46:17Z")
So, this this morning, Trump Tweets: > [@](#): > > As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms! Adam Schiff responds that - Nixon asked that in 1974. The DOJ said ‘No’ and Nixon resigned three days later. Is Thursday good for you? Chuck Grassley said - Trump needs better lawyers. Preet Barhara says - Do it ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21015 "2018-06-04T20:48:15Z")
Just picture him [in George Bluth’s prison jumpsuit.](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F7c%2F7c8af0b6366e98d9a1dda3bb99b44175ef990725b529c6c9272b118817fbd27f.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fqkme.me%2F3odok7&docid=l8x9l8kUaANKTM&tbnid=2ZhuNrbwinyKIM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjcorHY8LrbAhXhx1kKHUMGB9MQMwgoKAAwAA..i&w=225&h=254&hl=en&bih=893&biw=1293&q=meme%20george%20bluth%20I%20have%20the%20worst&ved=0ahUKEwjcorHY8LrbAhXhx1kKHUMGB9MQMwgoKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21016 "2018-06-04T21:14:23Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Just picture him [in George Bluth’s prison jumpsuit.](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F7c%2F7c8af0b6366e98d9a1dda3bb99b44175ef990725b529c6c9272b118817fbd27f.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fqkme.me%2F3odok7&docid=l8x9l8kUaANKTM&tbnid=2ZhuNrbwinyKIM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjcorHY8LrbAhXhx1kKHUMGB9MQMwgoKAAwAA..i&w=225&h=254&hl=en&bih=893&biw=1293&q=meme%20george%20bluth%20I%20have%20the%20worst&ved=0ahUKEwjcorHY8LrbAhXhx1kKHUMGB9MQMwgoKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8) I think we should get him a gold jumpsuit. Just for the irony. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21017 "2018-06-04T22:12:08Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > We’ve had several presidents who were too intelligent to be believers. Maybe into the double digits! > > Within the past couple of years, I’ve learned that Warren G. Harding was able to play the Sousaphone. No one who has ever played the Sousaphone would be capable of believing in a rational god. > > **ElvisL1ves @20999:** My lord, I love that conspiracy theory. I may need to make a special trip to Denver just to check out the airport (plus the colossal demonic horse just down the road). Just googled and saw that locals supposedly call it “Bluecifer.” Love it. And, if that’s _not_ a demon horse, I wouldn’t know what was. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21018 "2018-06-04T22:40:31Z")
A [Westword article](http://www.westword.com/news/freaky-dia-mustang-sculpture-makes-a-great-t-shirt-in-which-to-read-angry-poetry-rants-5847924) featuring my favorite Bluecifer T-shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21019 "2018-06-05T00:19:15Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > The airport CT is just boring bunk. I don’t know about that. I’ve taken lots of people to the airport and NEVER SEEN THEM AGAIN! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21020 "2018-06-05T00:29:35Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Chuck Grassley said - Trump needs better lawyers. The purpose of making an outrageous claim is to get the public used to the idea. He’s been progressively walking closer and closer toward that line of demarcation between the rule of law and the rule of men. So he’s putting it out there, not just to gauge our reaction now, but so that it won’t be such a shock event if and when he decides to pull the plug on the investigation. Republicans are hoping Trump doesn’t actually fire Mueller because they’re increasingly confident about their chances of mitigating the political damage at the ballot box. This is especially true in the Senate. So this might be Grassley’s way of saying “Shut the f\*\*k up, Donny!” ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21021 "2018-06-05T00:37:01Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [Pentagon opens investigation into Ronny Jackson.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/pentagon-investigation-ronny-jackson/index.html) > > Only the best. This was the first I heard about the situation with Karen Pence. All the reporting that I can find is pretty general and kind of coy — it has to be in order to avoid revealing whatever was wrong with Karen Pence. > **[Did Mike Pence Let Trump Walk Into a Trap With “Candy Man?”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/mike-pence-ronny-jackson)** > > The vice president’s doctor alerted the White House to problems with Ronny “Candy Man” Jackson last fall. > **[Pence’s doctor accused Ronny Jackson of medical misconduct](https://nypost.com/2018/04/30/pences-doctor-accuses-ronny-jackson-of-misconduct/)** > > Former White House doctor Ronny Jackson has been accused of medical misconduct by Vice President Mike Pence’s physician, a report said Monday. Pence’s doctor wrote the White House a mem… Apparently the Pences feel that Jackson violated their privacy. As far as I can piece together, Karen Pence had to be rushed to the hospital and he informed White House personnel about Mrs. Pence’s condition without her permission. I’m going to guess that one of the people he informed was Bozo the President himself. This is not stated in the news accounts but one of Jackson’s defenses was that the Second Lady’s medical information was a “presidential asset”. The Pences do not agree with the assessment. And this happened before Trump nominated Jackson. So if he spied on The Pences for Trump and Trump tried to reward him, that would certainly be awkward for both Cheeto and the pious ass-kisser-in-chief. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21022 "2018-06-05T00:48:56Z")
Reuters just [tweeted](https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1003796287035248640) that Mueller says Manafort has attempted to tamper with a potential witness. The hits keep coming, and that one is a doozy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21023 "2018-06-05T00:59:47Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Reuters just [tweeted](https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1003796287035248640) that Mueller says Manafort has attempted to tamper with a potential witness. > > The hits keep coming, and that one is a doozy. I wonder if we can guess which witness Manafort was attempting to tamper with? \ Gates. \ ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21024 "2018-06-05T01:14:15Z")
Missed the edit window. Guess it wasn’t Gates after all. [Jim Sciutto Tweet](https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1003798882726371328). (Cross posted from the Mueller Investigation thread, link originally posted by **JohnT**.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1050) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1052)