# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21085 "2018-06-06T04:09:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The worst part is his handlers probably spent hours prepping him for the event. It makes you wonder how bad his behavior would have been if it had been unscripted.
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> “Remember, Mr President, you have to stand up when they play the National Anthem.”  
> “Which one is that?”  
> “The Star Spangled Banner. That’s the one that starts with ‘Oh say can you see’.”  
> “You better write that down for me.”

Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! That’s funny because it would mean that Trump can read! Hilarious! 😛

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21086 "2018-06-06T05:04:43Z")

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“I don’t care if José can see, he’s not even supposed to be here!”

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21087 "2018-06-06T05:43:30Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I really don’t like the guy, but I cringed on his behalf watching that.

Don’t waste a cringe. He absolutely believes that he knows more of the words than anybody else. (Those Marines had to _memorize_ and _practice_ to remember them all - and they did it just for him.)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21088 "2018-06-06T07:43:37Z")

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To him: “Jo-ho-se can not seeeeee / 'cause of my bigly wall…”

Oh, the other song? “Oh you will be loyal to me / My amber implant haaaaaair…”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21089 "2018-06-06T09:24:34Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I really don’t like the guy, but I cringed on his behalf watching that.

Remember George Carlin’s appearance on _Sesame Street_, where he recited the alphabet, but did it like he wasn’t really sure what the order of the letters was? The kids on the set and, from interviews with viewers some time later, were really “cringing on his behalf” and hoping he’d make it through correctly. Do you know why? Because he was likable. To Hell with Occupy White House. I don’t cringe when he screws up; it’s just more proof what a piece of crap he is.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21090 "2018-06-06T17:57:37Z")

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Giuliani: Kim Jong Un “got back on his hands and knees and begged for” the resumption of the US-North Korea summit, “which is exactly the position you want to put him in.”

> <https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1004412724439343105>

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21091 "2018-06-06T18:07:26Z")

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Paul Ryan says there is no evidence that law enforcement planted a spy inside Trump’s campaign.

> **[Paul Ryan splits with Trump, says ‘no evidence’ FBI spied on president’s...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/paul-ryan-splits-with-trump-says-no-evidence-fbi-spied-on-presidents-campaign/2018/06/06/c8bab620-6998-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html?utm_term=.543b9616a38a)**
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> In a rebuke of the president, the House speaker joined other lawmakers crossing Trump’s assertion that his campaign was spied on, and his claim that he can pardon himself.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21092 "2018-06-06T18:09:37Z")

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I guess the Loofah-Faced Shit Gibbon doesn’t want to meet, so he’s sending his proxy to burn it down before it happens. Or Guiliani is just so fucking senile by this point that he doesn’t even understand just how stupid is his own verbal diarrhea. Or both. Probably both.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21093 "2018-06-06T18:13:53Z")

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[All 25 members of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Consumer Advisory Board were fired this morning](Consumer Advisory Board):

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> Members of a group of outside experts required by law to meet twice a year with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said Wednesday that the group has been dissolved by CFPB head Mick Mulvaney.
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> Bureau officials told the 25 members of the Consumer Advisory Board on Wednesday morning that they will be replaced and the board will be reconstituted, according to two of board members who were on a morning conference call. An email on behalf of Mulvaney was also sent to board members telling them that their services were no longer required.
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> “Everyone on the board has been fired,” said Judith Fox, a professor at Notre Dame Law School who sat on the board for three years.
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> The advisory board, under the Obama administration, acted as a group of experts CFPB officials could talk with about coming trends or proposed regulation. It is basically the only group of outside experts that the CFPB director is required to interact with by law.
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> The board will be reconstituted in the fall, Fox said. None of the current members of the board will be eligible to apply. Members of two other boards that also provide outside expertise would also be replaced.

Mulvaney’s been subverting (or outright breaking) the law for months setting this up:

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> There had been murmurings about the fate of the consumer advisory board for weeks. Under the law that created the CFPB, the board is required to meet twice a year. But the meetings have repeatedly been cancelled under Mulvaney. Under Obama appointee Richard Cordray, the board would meet two to three times a year for at least a couple of days. The most Mulvaney ever committed to, according to board members, was a 20-minute phone call.
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> A two-day meeting originally scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday of this week was cancelled.

Worst administration ever. Unbelievably crooked.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21094 "2018-06-06T18:15:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Giuliani: Kim Jong Un “got back on his hands and knees and begged for” the resumption of the US-North Korea summit, “which is exactly the position you want to put him in.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1004412724439343105)

What the actual fuck. Why is the president’s personal attorney even commenting on international diplomacy at all??

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21095 "2018-06-06T18:21:57Z")

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Has Rudy started his 2020 presidential campaign already?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21096 "2018-06-06T18:22:04Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> What the actual fuck. Why is the president’s personal attorney even commenting on international diplomacy at all??

Am I wrong, or has NK always been desperate to have a meeting with the US president, and it’s just that the previous ones were not stupid enough to fall for it sight unseen?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21097 "2018-06-06T18:33:27Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> What the actual fuck. Why is the president’s personal attorney even commenting on international diplomacy at all??

This is what struck me. Why is this guy anywhere near NK discussions in the WH, or giving the appearance as such?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21098 "2018-06-06T18:33:30Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Am I wrong, or has NK always been desperate to have a meeting with the US president, and it’s just that the previous ones were not stupid enough to fall for it sight unseen?

You are not wrong.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21099 "2018-06-06T18:35:53Z")

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What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21100 "2018-06-06T18:37:29Z")

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Rank and file Republicans despise the CFPB because high-level Republiopaths tell them to.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21101 "2018-06-06T18:37:34Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?)

Because it was created by Obama at the urging of Elizabeth Warren.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21102 "2018-06-06T18:37:47Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?)

Obama.

And regulations are bad.

But mostly, Obama.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21103 "2018-06-06T18:38:51Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?)

IIRC, good old fashioned “government overreach” and “limiting of freedoms” (as in the argument that payday lenders are a good to neutral thing).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21104 "2018-06-06T18:55:19Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?)

They help protect the average Joe from financial crooks. This goes against republican philosophy.

And it was created under the Obama Administration.

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