# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1056
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21105 "2018-06-06T18:56:27Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > What do rank-and-file republicans have against the CFPB? (I understand why people who run credit card agencies don’t like it. But what’s the argument against it from “main street”?) Google “just world hypothesis.” They see it as “just” that bad people have bad things happen to them (things such as getting trapped in the credit morass that the existence of payday loan agencies encourage and perpetuate). And that attempts to restrain, mitigate, or even prevent the misery caused by this financial infrastructure are attempts to flout the rules by which they believe the universe functions. It also seems plausible that this explains the anger that they chronically display; that the Universe is assigning them the consequences that are reserved for the bad people (which they’re NOT — just ask them). ETA : Yeah, also its passage by a Democratic Party-controlled legislature, and the Obama signature at the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21106 "2018-06-06T19:05:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Has Rudy started his 2020 presidential campaign already? Considering that he’s starting to look like Danny DeVito as The Penguin, I’m not sure Ol’ Rudy has the required charisma. Besides, he’ll be AG once he figures out how to dispose of Sessions. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21107 "2018-06-06T19:10:00Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Am I wrong, or has NK always been desperate to have a meeting with the US president, and it’s just that the previous ones were not stupid enough to fall for it sight unseen? It actually may not be verbal diarrhea by Giuliani, but a calculated negotiating tactic: let’s see just how desperate Kim is to meet, by seeing how much shit he’ll eat. It’s probably worked for Trump before, in his real estate dealings; what could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21108 "2018-06-06T19:13:16Z")
In a phone call with Justin Trudeau about tariffs on Canadian imports, Trump justified them by claiming Canada burned down the White House in the War of 1812. I find it hard to believe Trump knows anything about the War of 1812. [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html)? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21109 "2018-06-06T19:43:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [All 25 members of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Consumer Advisory Board were fired this morning](Consumer Advisory Board):Mulvaney’s been subverting (or outright breaking) the law for months setting this up:Worst administration ever. Unbelievably crooked. A bit off-topic, but I had a flash of insight as to how the Democrats should campaign for the mid-terms (which I will post in Elections, and :cc the DNC.) Polling shows that the broad electorate does not want to talk about impeachment – Democrats must avoid the “i-word” at all costs;especially since Trump isn’t on the ballot, and a Democratic candidate would love to win back someone who was momentarily misguided into voting for Trump in 2016 without insulting that voter’s intelligence. (Yes, I know. Bear with me.) The solution: run against Scott Pruitt. Mnuchin. DeVos. Everybody in the administration who’s corrupt, inept, or both. Those guys weren’t elected by anybody - they have no fans, no constituents, and their approval ratings are probably garbage. Run on a campaign of ending corruption, providing a check on the Executive Branch, and otherwise draining the swamp. It’s running against Trump without ever mentioning him by name. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21110 "2018-06-06T19:46:46Z")
That would be good. Television ad with picture of DeVos, voice-over “Do you want this moron to be in charge of your child’s education? If you don’t, vote for me” Ad with picture of Pruitt “Do you want the guy who spent 1000s of dollars of taxpayer money on pens to be in charge of your clean drinking water? If you don’t, vote for me” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21111 "2018-06-06T20:11:10Z")
[On a lighter note](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/6/5/1769636/-Man-takes-a-knee-during-Trump-s-stand-for-the-National-Anthem-celebration), as the national anthem was being played before a crowd on the WH lawn, one anonymous man trolled this madministration by going down on one knee. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21112 "2018-06-06T21:14:38Z")
That is one of the bravest people in America right now; he totally fucking rocks! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21113 "2018-06-06T21:30:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > In a phone call with Justin Trudeau about tariffs on Canadian imports, Trump justified them by claiming Canada burned down the White House in the War of 1812. > I find it hard to believe Trump knows anything about the War of 1812. > [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html)? What’s worrying about this is less that Trump thinks it was Canada (which didn’t exist at the time) that did it, but that he apparently doesn’t know that it was retaliation for an American attack on York, where they burnt several government buildings. (So it ends up as a very good metaphor for the whole situation - he instigates the situation, then whines about being the victim.) ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21114 "2018-06-06T21:38:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Giuliani: Kim Jong Un “got back on his hands and knees and begged for” the resumption of the US-North Korea summit, “which is exactly the position you want to put him in.” > [x.com](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1004412724439343105) This is Trump Admin for “we were sitting by the phone for HOURS waiting for him to call and beg. Then we found out all that time he was having a beer with Moon” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21115 "2018-06-06T22:25:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Okay. Explain what this looks like. Don’t make me watch it 'cause I’m all out of eye bleach–just tell me. Is he singing with his hand over [del]the place where[/del] his heart [del]would be[/del]? Like anatomically normal people put their hand over their heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? And is he tapping in time with the music? Or just beating off (as it were) out of nervousness? WTF is he doing? He doesn’t appear to pat himself in time with the anthem–just sort of intermittently/continuously throughout the song. Footage of the 2017 Easter Egg Roll tends to focus on the fact that Melania had to nudge him to get him to put his hand on his chest at all, but once he did, he patted away. This version zooms out so you have to look to see his little hand patting away, but then it zooms back in so that it’s clearer: A more recent "he forgot the words to the Anthem" video shows fewer pats---about ten in the minute-and-a-half running time: As I said: it's what a little child does. 'Here I am ME ME ME.' It's not something a grownup does. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21116 "2018-06-06T22:40:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > In a phone call with Justin Trudeau about tariffs on Canadian imports, Trump justified them by claiming Canada burned down the White House in the War of 1812. > I find it hard to believe Trump knows anything about the War of 1812. > [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html)? Why would Trump care about that anyway? I thought he said the White House was a dump. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21117 "2018-06-06T23:04:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Because it was created by Obama at the urging of Elizabeth Warren. > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Obama. > > And regulations are bad. > > But mostly, Obama. Yup. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21118 "2018-06-06T23:13:07Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He doesn’t appear to pat himself in time with the anthem–just sort of intermittently/continuously throughout the song. Footage of the 2017 Easter Egg Roll tends to focus on the fact that Melania had to nudge him to get him to put his hand on his chest at all, but once he did, he patted away. This version zooms out so you have to look to see his little hand patting away, but then it zooms back in so that it’s clearer: > > A more recent "he forgot the words to the Anthem" video shows fewer pats---about ten in the minute-and-a-half running time: > > As I said: it's what a little child does. 'Here I am ME ME ME.' It's not something a grownup does. Shifty orange bastard can’t stand still for 2 seconds with the tapping and the twisting and the rocking. The repugnant swine is constantly tweaking. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21119 "2018-06-06T23:55:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I find it hard to believe Trump knows anything about the War of 1812. The War of 1812 was when the bad (or sick!) Canadians sent us their worst people and were VERY UNFAIR to the great General Jackson, who more and more people are finding out went on to be president, and I look forward to meeting with him very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21120 "2018-06-07T00:35:48Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He doesn’t appear to pat himself in time with the anthem–just sort of intermittently/continuously throughout the song. If you told me you thought that the short-fingered vulgarian was able to keep time to music — or even hear any sort of music as anything other than an incomprehensible barrage of sound — I would challenge you on that. My god, can you imaging DANCING with the man? If you were a woman? He would only be stamping arrhythmically around the dance floor and grabbing at your ass. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21121 "2018-06-07T01:01:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Giuliani: Kim Jong Un “got back on his hands and knees and begged for” the resumption of the US-North Korea summit, “which is exactly the position you want to put him in.” > [x.com](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1004412724439343105) I hope Kim’s translator can convey the sexual-degradation imagery. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21122 "2018-06-07T01:06:10Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > I hope Kim’s translator can convey the sexual-degradation imagery. As a longtime New Yorker, I am enjoying the image of Rudy tied down over the muzzle of a Howitzer. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21123 "2018-06-07T01:09:17Z")
State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert commented yesterday on the relationship between the US and Germany: > [@](#): > > “Tomorrow is the anniversary of the D-Day invasion. We obviously have a very long history with the government of Germany, and we have a strong relationship with the government of Germany.” > **[State spokeswoman notes D-Day in answer on ‘strong relationship’ with Germany...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/politics/state-department-heather-nauert-germany-israel/index.html)** > > State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert on Tuesday cited the D-Day invasion during an answer about the current state of US-German relations. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21124 "2018-06-07T01:22:11Z")
D-Day, when those treacherous Canadians were attacking our good friends the Germans on Juno beach. Very sad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1055) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1057)