# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21145 "2018-06-07T17:54:26Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Synecdoche!

Bzzzz… What are towns in New York?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21146 "2018-06-07T18:02:37Z")

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Fox News blatherer Jeanine Pirro wants to be Attorney General.

> **[Jeanine Pirro Is Gunning for Attorney General Gig: Report](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeanine-pirro-is-gunning-for-attorney-general-gig-report)**
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> She has “repeatedly” told Trump aides of her interest in the job, report says.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21147 "2018-06-07T18:09:41Z")

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Trump doesn’t think he has to do much preparation before going to the North Korea summit.

> <https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1004765796273401856>

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21148 "2018-06-07T18:39:06Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Seriously, if he can’t watch porn, how is he supposed to pick the next FLOTUS? UNFAIR!

And now Miss America doesn’t have a swimsuit competition anymore either.

He may as well be under Sharia Law.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21149 "2018-06-07T18:58:53Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> It actually may not be verbal diarrhea by Giuliani, but a calculated negotiating tactic: let’s see just how desperate Kim is to meet, by seeing how much shit he’ll eat.

Kim’s already won this one. Trump made the mistake of going public and saying what a triumph a meeting with Kim would be. That meant Trump now needed the meeting to happen or he’d look like he failed.

Kim was smarter than Trump. He never committed himself to the meeting so he had room to maneuver. He could attend or not attend without losing face either way.

For a guy who’s supposed to be a great negotiator, Trump made a stupid move. And now he’s getting played for it.

Nixon knew how to handle these things. He wanted a meeting with Mao but he never said anything in public until he was sure the meeting was going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21150 "2018-06-07T19:34:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Kim was smarter than Trump.

Not “was”; “is”. I mean, it’s not a high bar or anything.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21151 "2018-06-07T20:18:05Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert commented yesterday on the relationship between the US and Germany

I’m looking forward to her speech in Japan in a couple of months.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21152 "2018-06-07T20:26:45Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I’m looking forward to her speech in Japan in a couple of months.

Between her, and that congressman who posted pictures of German soldiers yesterday, and Trumps confusion over who burned the White House…there are a whole lot of people who need to be locked in a room with 80 hours of Ken Burns documentaries. You can’t come out until you can tell who fought on which side in which war.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21153 "2018-06-07T20:30:15Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I’m looking forward to her speech in Japan in a couple of months.

Here’s hoping she doesn’t bomb.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Between her, and that congressman who posted pictures of German soldiers yesterday, and Trumps confusion over who burned the White House…there are a whole lot of people who need to be locked in a room with 80 hours of Ken Burns documentaries. You can’t come out until you can tell who fought on which side in which war.

Should we use flash cards or what to remind them as to which side they are supposed to be rooting for?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21154 "2018-06-07T21:09:12Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I’m looking forward to her speech in Japan in a couple of months.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Here’s hoping she doesn’t bomb…

The fallout will be awful.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21155 "2018-06-07T21:10:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump doesn’t think he has to do much preparation before going to the North Korea summit.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1004765796273401856)

Handshake, photos, smiles. “We won”. “Still winning”.

“My people will get with your people to work out the details.”

“Winning”, “Greatest dealmaker ever.” “Nobel peace prize is nice, a little small but nice. It should be named after ME ME ME ME.” “I’ll have my own commissioned. It will be the greatest ever.”

BUT - In spite of the words, “DON’T BOW” written in permanent marker on his wrist (back of hand too small); he’ll still bow and Kimmy has won. Sanctions lifted, aid flowing, still all the nukes.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21156 "2018-06-07T22:23:33Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I’m looking forward to her speech in Japan in a couple of months.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Here’s hoping she doesn’t bomb.

Not a chance. She has both a Fat Man and Little Boy on her side.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21157 "2018-06-07T22:55:09Z")

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Rudy steps in it again:

> [@](#):
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> “She believes her husband,” Giuliani said at the “Globes” Capital Market conference in Tel Aviv. “And she knows it’s untrue.”  
> Thursday afternoon, the first lady’s communications director fired back at Giuliani.  
> “I don’t believe Mrs. Trump has ever discussed her thoughts on anything with Mr. Giuliani,” East Wing communications director Stephanie Grisham told CNN in a statement.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21158 "2018-06-07T23:54:37Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> Donny Two Scoops, Emperor of Ice Cream…

Chunky Donny.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21159 "2018-06-08T00:31:47Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> My god, can you imaging DANCING with the man? If you were a woman? He would only be stamping arrhythmically around the dance floor and grabbing at your ass.

Most women would count themselves lucky if all he managed to grab was their ass.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Kellyanne Conway calls Trump “commander of cheese”](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/06/kellyanne-conway-commander-in-cheese-628689). 😃

Five’ll get you ten that’s what Conway and other staffers call him behind his back.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21160 "2018-06-08T00:33:23Z")

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Just wanted to applaud this:

> [@](#):
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> I don’t believe Mrs. Trump has ever discussed her thoughts on anything with Mr. Giuliani.

– Stephanie Grisham (who, while she may have a crap job, can at least speak up when needed)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21161 "2018-06-08T02:33:31Z")

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Rudy Giuliani, who is a lawyer hired by Trump to negotiate his way through the Russia investigations, has stopped what he’s doing to:  
1-Travel to Israel  
2-Talk about the North Korea investigations  
3-Slut shame Stormy Daniels.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21162 "2018-06-08T02:42:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rudy Giuliani, who is a lawyer hired by Trump to negotiate his way through the Russia investigations, has stopped what he’s doing to:  
> 1-Travel to Israel  
> 2-Talk about the North Korea investigations  
> 3-Slut shame Stormy Daniels.

Multitasking!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21163 "2018-06-08T03:01:19Z")

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Canada and France are both saying that the G-7 can become the G-6 and they can just move ahead without the US.  
Macron:  
“The American President may not mind being isolated, but neither do we mind signing a 6 country agreement if need be. Because these 6 countries represent values, they represent an economic market which has the weight of history behind it and which is now a true international force”

> <https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1004812693348511751>
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> Emmanuel Macron @EmmanuelMacron

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21164 "2018-06-08T03:18:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Canada and France are both saying that the G-7 can become the G-6 and they can just move ahead without the US.  
> Macron:  
> “The American President may not mind being isolated, but neither do we mind signing a 6 country agreement if need be. Because these 6 countries represent values, they represent an economic market which has the weight of history behind it and which is now a true international force”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1004812693348511751)

I’ve been reading a speculative-fiction series of time-travel stories\* published starting in 2013, set in England of a not-too-distant future, in which the USA has for some unspecified time closed its borders and become completely cut off from the rest of the world.

Lately it doesn’t seem quite so speculative.  
\*Jodi Taylor’s Chronicles of St. Mary’s series.

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