# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1059
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21165 "2018-06-08T03:21:36Z")
Liberty University is giving class credit to students who work on **The Trump Prophecy** , a movie about “a fireman who believes he heard the voice of God tell him, You’re hearing the voice of a president, while he was watching an interview with Trump.” [http://www.guacamoley.com/covfefe/2018/06/06/Z2szEGT/prominent-christian-university-helps-make-film](http://www.guacamoley.com/covfefe/2018/06/06/Z2szEGT/prominent-christian-university-helps-make-film) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21166 "2018-06-08T03:26:15Z")
A fireman hero? The last time THAT happened was _Fahrenheit 451._ ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21167 "2018-06-08T03:44:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Canada and France are both saying that the G-7 can become the G-6 and they can just move ahead without the US. > Macron: > “The American President may not mind being isolated, but neither do we mind signing a 6 country agreement if need be. Because these 6 countries represent values, they represent an economic market which has the weight of history behind it and which is now a true international force” > [x.com](https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1004812693348511751) Play La Marseillaise! Play it! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21168 "2018-06-08T03:59:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Canada and France are both saying that the G-7 can become the G-6 and they can just move ahead without the US. > Macron: > “The American President may not mind being isolated, but neither do we mind signing a 6 country agreement if need be. Because these 6 countries represent values, they represent an economic market which has the weight of history behind it and which is now a true international force” > [x.com](https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1004812693348511751) We’re probably not far from the moment when Trump threatens to withdraw support for NATO and winks and nods at Vladimir Putin to have his way with Europe. This is what Putin saw in Trump. The ability to use financial leverage and _komprat_ against Trump to undermine America from within, and also, the opportunity to exploit his mercurial and capricious temperament, turning America against the West. Domestically and internationally, Putin uses fissures to incite strife so that individual constituencies fight with each other to weaken the US and the West. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21169 "2018-06-08T04:39:53Z")
CNBC reporter Christina Wilkie is reporting about architect John Fotiadis, being investigated by Mueller over his work on Trump properties in Eastern Europe and Russia. She says that eight hours after she asked Fotiadis to comment on the investigation, he announced on Twitter that he was closing his company, then he shut down the company and its website, and deleted his Twitter account. > **[Meet the New York architect who was a key figure in Donald Trump's deals and...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/how-a-ny-architect-offers-a-window-into-trump-deals-in-eastern-europe.html)** > > John Fotiadis designed some of Trump's most ambitious luxury developments in the former Soviet Union. But when CNBC tried to reach him, Fotiadis seemed to disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21170 "2018-06-08T07:32:18Z")
Sweet Jesus, [Loser Donald wants to sign a peace treaty with DPRK and invite Kim to the White House;](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/trump-dangles-white-house-invite-kim-jong-un/) > [@](#): > > “We could absolutely sign an agreement and we’re looking at it,” said Trump. “But that’s the beginning. Sounds a little bit strange, but that’s probably the easy part.” > Although an armistice was signed to end the war, there was never a full peace treaty — something that fuels the North Korean regime’s fears about its own security. > Trump even went so far as to say he would consider inviting Kim to visit the United States if the June 12 summit in Singapore goes well. > “Maybe we’ll start with the White House, what do you think?” he said when asked if Kim would be invited to Washington or his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. I’m imagining the talks are going to go something like this; Kim: “Alright, Mr. Trump, we have this treaty ready to states the war is over and you agree withdraw all US forces and nuclear arms from the region. In exchange, we think about dismantling our nuclear program in ten or twenty years.” Trump: “Did Obama ever try to do this?” Kim: “No he did not.” Trump: “GIVE ME THAT PEN LITTLE ROCKET MAN!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21171 "2018-06-08T11:17:32Z")
As imperfect as it has sometimes been, the diplomatic apparatus has established and maintained vital alliances and, more importantly, preserved stability for us and our partners. Now, decades of American foreign policy are about to be undone, not as the result of inevitable political trends and shifts that occur over time, but for nothing more than the sake of our narcissistic president’s ego. Jesus Christ, did the Vladimir Putins of the world ever strike gold on election night 2016. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21172 "2018-06-08T11:44:33Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Obviously she was speaking metaphorically. He’s commander of all dairy products. > [@pulykamell](#): > > Synecdoche! Or in this instance, _synecdoucheche_… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21173 "2018-06-08T13:09:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > CNBC reporter Christina Wilkie is reporting about architect John Fotiadis, being investigated by Mueller over his work on Trump properties in Eastern Europe and Russia. She says that eight hours after she asked Fotiadis to comment on the investigation, he announced on Twitter that he was closing his company, then he shut down the company and its website, and deleted his Twitter account. > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/how-a-ny-architect-offers-a-window-into-trump-deals-in-eastern-europe.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/how-a-ny-architect-offers-a-window-into-trump-deals-in-eastern-europe.html) Damn! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21174 "2018-06-08T13:31:30Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We’re probably not far from the moment when Trump threatens to withdraw support for NATO and winks and nods at Vladimir Putin to have his way with Europe. I keep remembering an episode of The West Wing. Communications Director Toby Ziegler has been caught using his WH status for personal reasons (noble, of course) and gets his hand slapped by President Bartlet, who asks: “Have you made any other decisions I should know about? Are we still in NATO?” Ha. Ha. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21175 "2018-06-08T14:43:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump disinvited the Philadelphia Eagles to the White House, after some of them said they would not be going. Butt-hurt iDJiT does it again! [Says no NBA champions will be invited to the White House _after_ one Warrior and one Cavalier indicate that neither team is interested, anyway.](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-says-warriors-or-cavaliers-wont-be-invited-to-the-white-house-after-nba-finals.html) [How long until the Capitals are disinvited?](https://sports.yahoo.com/washington-capitals-star-says-skip-173849957.html) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21176 "2018-06-08T14:53:27Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [How long until the Capitals are disinvited?](https://sports.yahoo.com/washington-capitals-star-says-skip-173849957.html) A lot of them are (gasp) not American anyway. Why would Donald be expected to invite a foreign delegation of people who aren’t strongmen? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21177 "2018-06-08T15:10:34Z")
From now on, he’ll start inviting champions of Russia’s sports leagues instead. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21178 "2018-06-08T15:11:28Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > A lot of them are (gasp) not American anyway. Why would Donald be expected to invite a foreign delegation of people who aren’t strongmen? It goes into the intro of the other article: [quote] [ul]“I didn’t invite LeBron James and I didn’t invite Steph Curry. We’re not going to invite either team, but we have other teams that are coming,” Trump says. [li]But the two All-Star players already said this week their teams would not visit the White House after NBA’s champion is crowned.[/li][li]“My attitude [is], if they want to be here, the greatest place on earth, I’ll be here. If they don’t want to be here, I don’t want them,” Trump said.[/ul][/li][/quote] Something tells me that those “other teams” won’t be there, either. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21179 "2018-06-08T15:12:00Z")
I thought Disney was the greatest place on earth? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21180 "2018-06-08T15:15:21Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I thought Disney was the greatest place on earth? No, that’s the happiest place on earth. The greatest place on earth is wherever his ego happens to be at any given time. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21181 "2018-06-08T16:57:52Z")
Saw a story on a sorta _far_-left site saying that the Shitgibbon was planning on pardoning Cassius Clay. Who responded that he wanted nothing to do with that, and that there was nothing to pardon (his conviction was thrown out by scotus nearly half a century ago). Curious that CFSG would be wanting to pardon a black man, albeit a famous one, for _draft evasion_. The article said that CFSG told reporters that he was looking at _thousands_ of potential pardons. I mean, what the holy fuck. Someone needs to dangle some sparkly things in front of him, trigger that magpie instinct. (sorry magpies, no offense meant) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21182 "2018-06-08T17:04:26Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Saw a story on a sorta _far_-left site saying that the Shitgibbon was planning on pardoning Cassius Clay. Who responded that he wanted nothing to do with that, and that there was nothing to pardon (his conviction was thrown out by scotus nearly half a century ago). AP Radio News literally just ran the same story. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21183 "2018-06-08T17:06:23Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Saw a story on a sorta _far_-left site saying that the Shitgibbon was planning on pardoning Cassius Clay. Who responded that he wanted nothing to do with that, and that there was nothing to pardon (his conviction was thrown out by scotus nearly half a century ago). Curious that CFSG would be wanting to pardon a black man, albeit a famous one, for _draft evasion_. > > The article said that CFSG told reporters that he was looking at _thousands_ of potential pardons. I mean, what the holy fuck. Someone needs to dangle some sparkly things in front of him, trigger that magpie instinct. > > (sorry magpies, no offense meant) Also reported by other media, but most of them don’t have Muhammad Ali issuing statements from the grave. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21184 "2018-06-08T17:07:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > CNBC reporter Christina Wilkie is reporting about architect John Fotiadis, being investigated by Mueller over his work on Trump properties in Eastern Europe and Russia. She says that eight hours after she asked Fotiadis to comment on the investigation, he announced on Twitter that he was closing his company, then he shut down the company and its website, and deleted his Twitter account. > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/how-a-ny-architect-offers-a-window-into-trump-deals-in-eastern-europe.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/how-a-ny-architect-offers-a-window-into-trump-deals-in-eastern-europe.html) He’s undoubtedly following Sean Hannity’s advice and destroying evidence as we speak. Those who continue to blindly believe Trump’s claims of innocence might consider that destroying evidence isn’t something innocent people do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1058) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1060)