# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2101 "2017-03-10T00:24:25Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Back now. Needed a little time to cool off. I’m cooled. Have any thoughts of your own, plagiarist? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2102 "2017-03-10T00:25:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You don’t seem to have the slightest idea how to present ideas in a rational way. You’re kind of all over the map. Amusing to watch, however. > > There are actually a few brave, articulate conservatives here in the swamp. I noticed that none of them jumped on your bandwagon. The conservatives you are referring to are probably of the David Brooks/David Frum mold; please know that I’m not that kind of conservative (I honestly don’t even consider Mr. Brooks, a moderate who leans right and is an extreme neoconservative, same with David Frum. Both of them are pro-abortion). I’m a solid conservative who doesn’t cede ground to the liberals, unlike Brooks and Frum. The reason you probably get along with the conservatives you’re referring to is cause they cede some moral high ground. I don’t and will not. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2103 "2017-03-10T00:26:19Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Back now. Needed a little time to cool off. I’m cooled. What you need to do is take a lot of time to wise up. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2104 "2017-03-10T00:26:23Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > What’s the matter, QuickSilver? You’re not addressing my points at hand (and there are a lot of them), and are instead engaging in ad hominen attacks on me, because you know you can’t win. > > Oh, and DC \> Marvel Points? What points? What you’ve not regurgitated from conservative shrill talk radio you’ve plagiarized without attribution from people whose toilets you’re not fit to scrub. What is it that you think you’re winning, asshat? I stopped taking you seriously at hello. Seriously now, fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2105 "2017-03-10T00:29:07Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > The conservatives you are referring to are probably of the David Brooks/David Frum mold; please know that I’m not that kind of conservative (I honestly don’t even consider Mr. Brooks, a moderate who leans right and is an extreme neoconservative, same with David Frum. Both of them are pro-abortion). > > I’m a solid conservative who doesn’t cede ground to the liberals, unlike Brooks and Frum. The reason you probably get along with the conservatives you’re referring to is cause they cede some moral high ground. I don’t and will not. You must get so much tail in college. I didn’t know Pepperdine had a New Jersey campus! ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2106 "2017-03-10T00:30:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > You must get so much tail in college. I didn’t know Pepperdine had a New Jersey campus! I’m from Rutgers, thank you very much, it is certainly isn’t the Pepperdine of the East. It’s a vibrant, fun-loving and gorgeous campus. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2107 "2017-03-10T00:32:08Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > The conservatives you are referring to are probably of the David Brooks/David Frum mold; please know that I’m not that kind of conservative (I honestly don’t even consider Mr. Brooks, a moderate who leans right and is an extreme neoconservative, same with David Frum. Both of them are pro-abortion). > > I’m a solid conservative who doesn’t cede ground to the liberals, unlike Brooks and Frum. The reason you probably get along with the conservatives you’re referring to is cause they cede some moral high ground. I don’t and will not. You’re in for so much shit in the immediate future you are to be deeply pitied. Just the idea of being young and saying “I’m a conservative” I mean it’s an art project at best. All the brains, wit, class and intelligence have left the room for you cons. They never were in it actually. Enjoy donnies win. Because it’s a long grim humorless agitated future after the wave peaks. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2108 "2017-03-10T00:37:28Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > You’re in for so much shit in the immediate future you are to be deeply pitied. > > Just the idea of being young and saying “I’m a conservative” I mean it’s an art project at best. All the brains, wit, class and intelligence have left the room for you cons. They never were in it actually. Enjoy donnies win. Because it’s a long grim humorless agitated future after the wave peaks. Yeah, that’s why we lost, right? Oh wait ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2109 "2017-03-10T00:40:23Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m from Rutgers, thank you very much, it is certainly isn’t the Pepperdine of the East. It’s a vibrant, fun-loving and gorgeous campus. What’s Rutgers’ policy on quoting the words of others without properly attributing them? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2110 "2017-03-10T00:42:29Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > What’s Rutgers’ policy on quoting the words of others without properly attributing them? THis is an online community discussion forum; it’s not a college essay. I don’t plagiarize anything in my college essays. And I have seen many people on this forum cite things in support of Clinton and liberals without providing sources for where they got their info, but strangely you aren’t protesting that, are you? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2111 "2017-03-10T00:44:05Z")
Well nothing says “We’ve got the moral high ground” like making Donald Trump the face of your party. Not that Cheny/Bush wasn’t a sparkling instance of moral virtue, but it lacked that special gibbering quality Trump brings to the office. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2112 "2017-03-10T00:47:52Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Yeah, that’s why we lost, right? Oh wait The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice. Let’s talk in 20 years about who “won” and who lost in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2113 "2017-03-10T00:48:02Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Well nothing says “We’ve got the moral high ground” like making Donald Trump the face of your party. > > Not that Cheny/Bush wasn’t a sparkling instance of moral virtue, but it lacked that special gibbering quality Trump brings to the office. Well, Trump did win the election against 17 other primary challengers and a general election opponent who the vast majority of polls thought would win to become the President, so he’s earned the moniker of being the face of the Republican Party. Democrats have decided to make left-wing zealot Sen. Elizabeth Warren the face of their party, as we have seen recently, hate to break it to you but that wont’t play well in 2018 or 2020. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2114 "2017-03-10T00:50:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice. Let’s talk in 20 years about who “won” and who lost in 2016. Hey, this guy just plagiarizing from Martin Luther King, Jr! PLAGIARIST!!!@!11111 Oh wait, I didn’t hear that. I hear silence. Where’s your outrage folks? It appears that it is selective. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2115 "2017-03-10T00:58:55Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Hey, this guy just plagiarizing from Martin Luther King, Jr! PLAGIARIST!!!@!11111 > > Oh wait, I didn’t hear that. I hear silence. Where’s your outrage folks? It appears that it is selective. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2116 "2017-03-10T01:06:59Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2117 "2017-03-10T01:08:58Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Yes, blame George W. Bush, that is very original, instead of, you know, the greedy Wall Street executives and amoral subprime loan officials that caused the recession. Yeah, those guys should be tightly regulated or something. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2118 "2017-03-10T01:11:02Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Well, Trump did win the election against 17 other primary challengers and a general election opponent who the vast majority of polls thought would win to become the President, so he’s earned the moniker of being the face of the Republican Party. Democrats have decided to make left-wing zealot Sen. Elizabeth Warren the face of their party, as we have seen recently, hate to break it to you but that wont’t play well in 2018 or 2020. Ah…I thought you were arguing that conservatives were the owners of the moral high ground. Given that starting position they would naturally tend to elect morally exemplary people. Ultimately they’ve gone for middling incompetence in Bush and hysterically shameful behaviour in Trump and moral cravens in a number of their other various leaders like Cruz. So, it just might be possible that conservatives, other than you naturally, are not the great moral majority you think they are. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2119 "2017-03-10T01:12:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, those guys should be tightly regulated or something. Assuming by “amoral subprime loan officials” he means amoral credit rating agencies. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2120 "2017-03-10T01:13:01Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, those guys should be tightly regulated or something. The Glass-Steagall deregulatory reform was passed under Clinton, not Bush, and if you want to blame that legislation for the recession (a notion that is itself up to debate), then I don’t see how Bush is to blame as he didn’t sign it, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=107)