# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1063
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21245 "2018-06-09T17:38:12Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > A great moment from the G7 summit: So the Trump family fortune was built on the backs of exploited women and girls? The Trumps are parasites. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21246 "2018-06-09T17:39:11Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump has apparently floated 3 “ideas” this week: legalizing marijuana, pardoning thousands of random people (some of whom may have celebrity lobbyists on their side) and allowing NFL players to pick who they want to pardon. Is it possible that what these all have in common is: blatant pandering for popularity/votes? Just throwing shit at the wall in an effort to make people love him? Or as mentioned elsewhere, trolling Sessions (who, I imagine, has objections to all three)? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21247 "2018-06-09T18:00:29Z")
Trump today: 1-The US may end trade with the other members of the G-7. 2-The Russian invasion of Crimea was Obama’s fault. 3-He ducked out of the G-7 summits on climate and the oceans 4-Relations with the other members of the G-7 have never been better. 5-He likes North Korea better than any of the US allies. > **[Trump takes hard line with US allies at G-7 summit](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391487-trump-plays-hardball-with-us-allies-at-g-7-summit/?__twitter_impression=true)** > > President Trump exited the Group of Seven (G-7) summit on Saturday with a stark warning to some of Washington’s closest allies: reduce trade barriers or face conseque… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21248 "2018-06-09T18:26:11Z")
Putin must be doing backflips over Trump diminishing the influence and power of the US more every day. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21249 "2018-06-09T18:33:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Putin’s Russia is doing to us what America usually does to Central and South America. Meddle in elections, insert intelligence-backed “assets”, corrupt the government, turn factions against each other, and ultimately destabilize the political environment, thereby creating conditions favorable for some sort of unrest. Yes, I expect Putin to interfere in other country’s elections, including America’s. The issue here isn’t what Putin did. It’s what Trump did. When Putin offered help, did Trump or somebody representing Trump accept his help? As an American, I’m a lot more concerned about a President accepting foreign bribes than I am about a foreigner making those bribes. ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21250 "2018-06-09T18:45:57Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > So the Trump family fortune was built on the backs of exploited women and girls? The Trumps are parasites. I was reading a Twitter thread the other day about this being the origin of the Trump family mob connections. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21251 "2018-06-09T19:44:19Z")
About Trump’s suggestion that NFL players suggest people for him to pardon…Hannity refers to this as [“calling their bluff.”](https://www.hannity.com/media-room/calling-their-bluff-trump-asks-nfl-players-to-recommend-people-for-pardons/) Although it’s unclear what Hannity thinks their cards really are. But there is a simple refutation to Trump’s suggestion: the stories that spawned Black Lives Matter, and the NFL kneel-down protest, aren’t about people who are unjustly imprisoned. The victims are dead. Beyond the reach of presidential pardons. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21252 "2018-06-09T20:24:01Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > About Trump’s suggestion that NFL players suggest people for him to pardon…Hannity refers to this as [“calling their bluff.”](https://www.hannity.com/media-room/calling-their-bluff-trump-asks-nfl-players-to-recommend-people-for-pardons/) Although it’s unclear what Hannity thinks their cards really are. > > But there is a simple refutation to Trump’s suggestion: the stories that spawned Black Lives Matter, and the NFL kneel-down protest, aren’t about people who are unjustly imprisoned. The victims are dead. Beyond the reach of presidential pardons. Then give him that list. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21253 "2018-06-09T20:59:04Z")
From tariffs to…totally free trade. > **[Trump makes stunning reversal, says there should be 'no tariffs, no barriers'...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-dropping-all-tariffs-trade-barriers-at-g7-summit-2018-6)** > > President Donald Trump told reporters that he suggested the elimination of all tariffs, trade barriers, and subsidies during a meeting with G7 leaders. The idea comes just weeks after Trump slapped massive tariffs on US allies, including many G7... > [@](#): > > “Ultimately that’s what you want, you want tariff free, no barriers, and you want no subsides because you have some countries subsidizing industries and that’s not fair,” Trump said. “So you go tariff free, you go barrier free, you go subsidy free, that’s the way you learned at the Wharton School of Finance.” > > According to reports, the other leaders were taken aback by the suggestions and **not sure how serious Trump was about it.** The president alluded to the surprise during the press conference. In other words, the people who make the most important economic decisions are increasingly at the point where they really have no idea what to expect from the top decision maker in the world’s largest economy. Wrap your heads around that thought for a moment. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21254 "2018-06-09T21:05:03Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Then give him that list. Truly brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21255 "2018-06-09T21:05:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Yes, I expect Putin to interfere in other country’s elections, including America’s. The issue here isn’t what Putin did. > > It’s what Trump did. When Putin offered help, did Trump or somebody representing Trump accept his help? > > As an American, I’m a lot more concerned about a President accepting foreign bribes than I am about a foreigner making those bribes. In full agreement with you. I was just pointing out that what’s happening now is much deeper and more profound than a president taking bribes. Not to diminish the seriousness of his corruption, but it’s pretty clear that Putin and his oligarchs are essentially part of Trump’s cabinet, and they factor in his foreign policy decision making. What’s not clear, what’s not yet known, is the extent to which Putin’s Russia has sunk its bear claws into our political system. Against this backdrop, it is ominous to think that Republicans perpetually enable him and seem almost as desperate to end the investigation as Trump is. It makes one wonder just how far and deep Putin’s influence has reached. I seriously doubt it stopped at Trump. We’re witnessing the potential breakup of the Post WWII transatlantic alliance, and we have people on the inside aiding and abetting its collapse. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21256 "2018-06-09T21:06:04Z")
No subsidies? What a complete and utter moron. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21257 "2018-06-09T21:11:43Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > No subsidies? What a complete and utter moron. Does that mean we pull all our agricultural subsidies? I can get behind that, if it seems necessary, but it does seem as though there are going to be quite a number of people who voted for trump that are going to lose their livelihoods. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21258 "2018-06-09T21:17:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Then give him that list. “I want my friend(s) back, you son of a bitch.” ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21259 "2018-06-09T21:49:07Z")
I really don’t understand any of this. Why one even ONE conservative/republican even tolerate this child and his attitude at a major international business meeting? Does no one have international stocks? Investments with other countries? Anyone with $1 in an investment fund should be freaking out over some orange guy pissing off our allies in financial situations. “Let’s have a trade war with high tariffs, NO tariffs, no subsidies!” Would anyone keep their stock broker if they talked like this? Poll the friggin’ congress and ask them that if they agree with his ideas to explain why. Now. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21260 "2018-06-09T22:03:57Z")
The Hill is reporting that Trump has, essentially, [threatened to stop trade with all of the other members of the G7](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391487-trump-plays-hardball-with-us-allies-at-g-7-summit), meaning Canada, Italy, Germany, France, Japan, and the United Kingdom, if they don’t reduce their trade barriers with the US. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21261 "2018-06-09T22:11:52Z")
[god bless america](https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/photos/a.404595876219681.103599.142474049098533/1984049131607673/?type=3) (_it’s all about me_) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21262 "2018-06-09T22:38:39Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I really don’t understand any of this. Why one even ONE conservative/republican even tolerate this child and his attitude at a major international business meeting? Does no one have international stocks? Investments with other countries? Anyone with $1 in an investment fund should be freaking out over some orange guy pissing off our allies in financial situations. “Let’s have a trade war with high tariffs, NO tariffs, no subsidies!” Would anyone keep their stock broker if they talked like this? > > Poll the friggin’ congress and ask them that if they agree with his ideas to explain why. Now. It helps Russia - Putin, specifically - and virtually no one else, which is why it’s now plainly obvious that Putin controls the President with real leverage. The fact that Republicans in congress are reluctant to stop this is also suspicious. Sure, some are wary of tangling with Trump’s voters, but some of these voters are going to get absolutely fucked by Trump’s policies if they get a taste of them for even a few months. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21263 "2018-06-09T22:40:34Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > No subsidies? What a complete and utter moron. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Does that mean we pull all our agricultural subsidies? > > I can get behind that, if it seems necessary, but it does seem as though there are going to be quite a number of people who voted for trump that are going to lose their livelihoods. Besides our agriculture, our subsidized defense industry would suffer a massive decline. Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, United Technologies, Lockheed Martin… But, he’s just throwing shit out as usual. If anything sticks with the base, he’ll parrot then hell out of it claiming it’s his greatest idea since Og. No traction (no me/me/me) it will drop like a hot rock and the SG will claim fake news even with video evidence. The base idiots won’t listen either way. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21264 "2018-06-09T22:47:02Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I really don’t understand any of this. Why one even ONE conservative/republican even tolerate this child and his attitude at a major international business meeting? Does no one have international stocks? Investments with other countries? Anyone with $1 in an investment fund should be freaking out over some orange guy pissing off our allies in financial situations. “Let’s have a trade war with high tariffs, NO tariffs, no subsidies!” Would anyone keep their stock broker if they talked like this? > > Poll the friggin’ congress and ask them that if they agree with his ideas to explain why. Now. I have noticed on this MB and a couple of others that the “smart” GOP supporters have been noticeably silent in re Trumpco. It’s mostly the noisy, conspiracy theorists who are still buying Trumpco products. …the same folks who bought the Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. I suspect that after the mid-terms the currently silent GOP members may find their voices. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1062) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1064)