# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1064
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21265 "2018-06-09T22:52:05Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > I have noticed on this MB and a couple of others that the “smart” GOP supporters have been noticeably silent in re Trumpco. > > It’s mostly the noisy, conspiracy theorists who are still buying Trumpco products. > …the same folks who bought the Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. > I suspect that after the mid-terms the currently silent GOP members may find their voices. Actually, I’m worried mid-terms won’t change a thing. Not trading with our allies and price-changing tariffs aren’t going to hit voters on a personal level until at least next year. At when it does-- Obama. To be honest, I might even invest in companies that manufacture old-time CCCP flags. The large outdoor kind. They could be one of the magical “tariff free” items we’ll see at Wal-Mart. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21266 "2018-06-09T22:57:10Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I really don’t understand any of this. Why one even ONE conservative/republican even tolerate this child and his attitude at a major international business meeting? Does no one have international stocks? Investments with other countries? Anyone with $1 in an investment fund should be freaking out over some orange guy pissing off our allies in financial situations. “Let’s have a trade war with high tariffs, NO tariffs, no subsidies!” Would anyone keep their stock broker if they talked like this? > > Poll the friggin’ congress and ask them that if they agree with his ideas to explain why. Now. The answer to all of that is “He is not Hillary”. They are all firmly convinced thst Ms. Clinton would be worse. Ask for details of that thought process and they will just repeat the mantra. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21267 "2018-06-09T23:03:53Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I think he’s already alienated Oprah. > > 🙂 Smartass!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21268 "2018-06-09T23:25:44Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > A great moment from the G7 summit: That is some seriously world-class trolling right there! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21269 "2018-06-10T00:01:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The answer to all of that is “He is not Hillary”. They are all firmly convinced thst Ms. Clinton would be worse. Ask for details of that thought process and they will just repeat the mantra. And they see all the chest-thumping about pulling out of trade deals and forcing the G7 nations to give us more favorable terms as a) brilliant, and b) what we should have been doing all along, because we’re the Big Dog and all the others just have to do what we say! The big question is how many Trump voters are actually smart enough to realize that the Biggest Bully on the Block show is going to devastate their own bottom lines (and the US economy as a whole). The hard-core racist 25% won’t be able to make the connection no matter how small the words used to explain it to them. But there’s probably a fuzzy 12 - 16% who may know that the entertaining show Trump is putting on will have genuinely negative consequences. And then there are the Trump voters who really matter: the one-percenters. They will, at the very least, have financial advisors who will be gingerly, diplomatically telling them THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD. If enough of them get on the horn to their pet Congresspeople, and if those Congresspeople aren’t actually implicated in the Russia investigation (and thus possessed of an overriding motive to protect Trump at all costs), then…something could happen. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21270 "2018-06-10T00:13:12Z")
A picture is worth a thousand words. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44426442](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44426442) ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21271 "2018-06-10T00:19:43Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And then there are the Trump voters who really matter: the one-percenters. They will, at the very least, have financial advisors who will be gingerly, diplomatically telling them THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD. If enough of them get on the horn to their pet Congresspeople, and if those Congresspeople aren’t actually implicated in the Russia investigation (and thus possessed of an overriding motive to protect Trump at all costs), then…something could happen. But this group got their gigantic BJ tax cut. So, on balance why would they turn on the dumbass who did that for them? They are keyed-in enough to know when and where to move their money, no matter what happens. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21272 "2018-06-10T00:24:30Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > A picture is worth a thousand words. > [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44426442](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44426442) I saw this captioned as "Attendees confront Russian delegate to G6 Economic Summitt. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21273 "2018-06-10T00:38:37Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I saw this captioned as "Attendees confront Russian delegate to G6 Economic Summitt. Excellent caption ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21274 "2018-06-10T01:17:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > it does seem as though there are going to be quite a number of people who voted for trump that are going to lose their livelihoods. So why shouldn’t they get what they voted for? Especially since they were so obnoxious about it, and since they were warned what would happen. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21275 "2018-06-10T01:48:19Z")
Trump’s childlike hands are no match for the might of the modern Frenchman: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/he-left-a-mark](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/he-left-a-mark) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21276 "2018-06-10T02:08:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And they see all the chest-thumping about pulling out of trade deals and forcing the G7 nations to give us more favorable terms as a) brilliant, and b) what we should have been doing all along, because we’re the Big Dog and all the others just have to do what we say! > > The big question is how many Trump voters are actually smart enough to realize that the Biggest Bully on the Block show is going to devastate their own bottom lines (and the US economy as a whole). The hard-core racist 25% won’t be able to make the connection no matter how small the words used to explain it to them. But there’s probably a fuzzy 12 - 16% who may know that the entertaining show Trump is putting on will have genuinely negative consequences. > > And then there are the Trump voters who really matter: the one-percenters. They will, at the very least, have financial advisors who will be gingerly, diplomatically telling them THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD. If enough of them get on the horn to their pet Congresspeople, and if those Congresspeople aren’t actually implicated in the Russia investigation (and thus possessed of an overriding motive to protect Trump at all costs), then…something could happen. Our allies need to stop pretending like they can negotiate and mollify the shitgibbon. They need to start squeezing our balls. If you happen to live in Canada, the EU, Japan, or South Korea, then make it clear: urge your government to start imposing punitive tariffs aimed at Trump country. Put these fuckers out of work. I want Trump voters to feel pain. If they knowingly voted for an enemy of the state, then pain is what they should feel. I want them broke and unemployed. They’re not Americans, but enemies of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21277 "2018-06-10T02:49:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > …The big question is how many Trump voters are actually smart enough to realize that the Biggest Bully on the Block show is going to devastate their own bottom lines (and the US economy as a whole). … Um… zero. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21278 "2018-06-10T02:57:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Trump’s childlike hands are no match for the might of the modern Frenchman: > > [He Left a Mark - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/he-left-a-mark) He got off lucky. The mighty modern French-Canadian must have [gone easy on him.](https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/like-father-like-son-photo-of-trudeau-doing-yoga-pose-mirrors-his-father-1.2838119?autoPlay=true) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21279 "2018-06-10T02:58:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Trump’s childlike hands are no match for the might of the modern Frenchman: > > [He Left a Mark - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/he-left-a-mark) OMG it’s like he and Justin Trudeau were seeing who could troll Trump the hardest! I wonder what Angela Merkel did? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21280 "2018-06-10T03:00:08Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Our allies need to stop pretending like they can negotiate and mollify the shitgibbon. They need to start squeezing our balls. If you happen to live in Canada, the EU, Japan, or South Korea, then make it clear: urge your government to start imposing punitive tariffs aimed at Trump country. Put these fuckers out of work. I want Trump voters to feel pain. If they knowingly voted for an enemy of the state, then pain is what they should feel. I want them broke and unemployed. They’re not Americans, but enemies of Americans. I’m ok with this happening. I’m sure to suffer some too but it’d be worth it in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21281 "2018-06-10T03:20:14Z")
Any bets on how long til thump pulls the USA out of NATO? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21282 "2018-06-10T03:40:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Any bets on how long til thump pulls the USA out of NATO? Only if he can get a free transfer to the Warsaw Pact. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21283 "2018-06-10T03:55:42Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > From tariffs to…totally free trade. > > [Trump Suggests Dropping All Tariffs, Trade Barriers at G7 Summit](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-dropping-all-tariffs-trade-barriers-at-g7-summit-2018-6) > > In other words, the people who make the most important economic decisions are increasingly at the point where they really have no idea what to expect from the top decision maker in the world’s largest economy. Wrap your heads around that thought for a moment. One common complaint from 90% of Spaniards about those who live in Madrid is that they tend to forget that 90% of Spaniards neither live in Madrid nor want to. I’ve heard similar complaints about other countries, the capital thinking they embody the country when actually they’re, although large, a minority in poppulation, space and mindset. The people currently pushing around the rudder of the good ship USA are managing to get other countries to say “seriously guys, yes you’re fucking big, hell you’re 25% of the world’s GPD… but that means the rest of us are 75%!” Well, ok, for [the next 6 biggest guys](https://www.google.com/search?client=avast&ei=SaAcW9OmKYy15gL4z5WoAg&q=G-7+may+become+G-6&oq=G-7+may+become+G-6&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.68347.82362.0.82614.35.25.0.0.0.0.356.3648.0j10j4j3.18.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..17.15.3211.6..0j38j0i67k1j0i22i30k1j0i22i10i30k1j35i39k1j0i131i67k1j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i10i30k1j0i203k1j33i21k1j33i22i29i30k1.225.BHBwjKGt80c) it’s not 75%. But all of us together, we are. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21284 "2018-06-10T04:28:01Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Our allies need to stop pretending like they can negotiate and mollify the shitgibbon. They need to start squeezing our balls. If you happen to live in Canada, the EU, Japan, or South Korea, then make it clear: urge your government to start imposing punitive tariffs aimed at Trump country. Put these fuckers out of work. I want Trump voters to feel pain. If they knowingly voted for an enemy of the state, then pain is what they should feel. I want them broke and unemployed. They’re not Americans, but enemies of Americans. Canada’s interest is to minimize the damage Trump does to the Canadian economy. I fail to see why we should set fire to our economy by needlessly antagonizing him just because you were dumb enough to elect him. It’s your fuck up. You fix it. We’ll just be hunkered down over here as best we can. Anyways, if you go look at the list of stuff we’re putting retaliatory tariffs on, they’re all aimed directly at business and industry in the constituencies of congressional leadership. Why the hell does the executive have the power to unilaterally declare tariffs anyways? Shouldn’t that be the province of the legislative branch? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1063) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1065)