# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1066
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21305 "2018-06-10T15:47:02Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > But this group got their gigantic BJ tax cut. So, on balance why would they turn on the dumbass who did that for them? They are keyed-in enough to know when and where to move their money, no matter what happens. Good point. Unlike most of us and trump’s voters, they are not actually invested in america, they are just invested in the best investments they can find. If that means short selling america, and then moving their assets elsewhere, that’s what they will do. That they are destroying america with the support of people that claim to be so patriotic that they can’t stand to see a football player kneel for the anthem is an irony that is not lost on me, but certainly goes entirely over their heads. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So why shouldn’t they get what they voted for? Especially since they were so obnoxious about it, and since they were warned what would happen. They are fellow humans, and fellow americans, and I don’t like to see anyone suffer, even for actions they have taken themselves. There is also the fact that they will not be the only ones suffering, and that there are many who tried to choose a different path for the country who will also be harmed. That these are not considerations that they take into account when they vote in ways that they believe will hurt others doesn’t affect my thoughts on the matter, as there has to be some rational adult in the conversation. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So why is he sitting while everyone else is standing? He is fat and lazy. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21306 "2018-06-10T15:48:54Z")
Kim already arrives in Singapore with increased political leverage, and all he had to do was watch the news and read Trump’s twitter feed to see it. Kim is setting himself up to be the more reasonable actor in any comparison between himself and Trump. If Kim wants to push aggressively for removing troops from South Korea, he just might be able to do it. Any hard-line response is going to be met with increased skepticism. Any breakdown in talks, and guess who’s going to be the less credible of the two? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21307 "2018-06-10T16:15:56Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > They are fellow humans, and fellow americans, and I don’t like to see anyone suffer, even for actions they have taken themselves. They were warned what would or might happen. It was explained to them. I don’t want to see people suffer either. My comment was not meant to be punitive, despite that they voted with mean spirits. But sometimes an object lesson is the only way to get through to someone. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > There is also the fact that they will not be the only ones suffering, and that there are many who tried to choose a different path for the country who will also be harmed. I don’t want to suffer either. Those of us who voted against Trump will need to weather the storm because in the long-term, we hope things will be better. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > That these are not considerations that they take into account when they vote in ways that they believe will hurt others doesn’t affect my thoughts on the matter, as there has to be some rational adult in the conversation. It is common for Conservative voters to think only of the short term. (And corporations too, when you see how they go after short-term profits.) They only want to cause harm to The Other. We can’t have any adults in the conversation until the toddlers are shuffled off into another room. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21308 "2018-06-10T16:35:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > … But sometimes an object lesson is the only way to get through to someone. > > … And if the people are really stupid, even an object lesson won’t get through. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21309 "2018-06-10T17:00:27Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So wby is he sitting while everyone else is standing? Fear of Southeast Asia travel caused a Bone spur flare up? ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21310 "2018-06-10T17:04:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > They are fellow humans, and fellow americans, and I don’t like to see anyone suffer, even for actions they have taken themselves. There is also the fact that they will not be the only ones suffering, and that there are many who tried to choose a different path for the country who will also be harmed. Exactly - plus Trump doesn’t know any of them, so he won’t give a shit. I like Matt Yglesias’ idea of [treating Trump like a rogue oligarch instead](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/5/17422492/sanction-trump-organization). Slap travel bans on members of the Trump Organization and shut down his golf courses. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21311 "2018-06-10T17:29:04Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > There is a chance that some good could come from this. For example, perhaps Trump and Rodman try to return to the US from Singapore on Rodman’s motorcycle. I would gladly chip in on a row boat. Will even give them one oar. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21312 "2018-06-10T17:33:06Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So why is he sitting while everyone else is standing? Being face to face with Angela gives him a hard-on? No… that’s physically impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21313 "2018-06-10T18:29:56Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I would dearly love to have Kim Jong-Un open the summit by declaring that the US has shown that it cannot be trusted to honor any agreement, and walk away. > > (Trump would probably launch nukes in response, so OK maybe that’s not worth it.) I’m waiting for Kim to declare the US must denuclearize or no deal. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Being face to face with Angela gives him a hard-on? No… that’s physically impossible. Mmm, Angela. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21314 "2018-06-10T18:39:43Z")
The whole administration now is going full on crazy mode against Justin Trudeau. Trade advisor Peter navarro says Trudeau has a special place in hell. > **[Navarro: ‘Special place in hell’ for Trudeau](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/special-place-hell-trump-trudeau-navarro-635100)** > > “That was one of the worst political miscalculations of the Canadian leader in modern Canadian history," Peter Navarro argues. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21315 "2018-06-10T18:42:00Z")
Clearly we’ll need a wall along our northern border too, to keep out those damned icebacks. Alaska will have to fend for itself since it’s not _really_ a state anyway (unless more gold is discovered). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21316 "2018-06-10T18:43:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I like [the drawings in pictures 7 and 8](https://m.sohu.com/picture/234957222?_f=m-index_top_pic_1) much better to portray what happened. I prefer #12: it makes him look like the smallest person in the room, almost like he is trying to hide in the crowd. And Mr. WhiteMustache looks out of his depth. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21317 "2018-06-10T19:08:12Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > …They are fellow humans, and fellow americans, and I don’t like to see anyone suffer, even for actions they have taken themselves. There is also the fact that they will not be the only ones suffering, and that there are many who tried to choose a different path for the country who will also be harmed… Yes. But. I have neighbors that I help a lot. Mostly with getting stuck in snow and such. It works out well. And they LEARN how to not get stuck so much. I’m happy to help them out and offer some gentle advice. A smile and thank you is all I expect in return. The better they are prepared, the fewer times I have to fire up my plow truck and help out (this really sucks when you are getting ready for bed and we are ass deep in snowballs). If, instead, they told me to fuck off after I did them a favor, well, I might not help them out next time. This is what I see from the Republican party and die hard trump supporters. I don’t like to see others suffer either, but I only have two cheeks to get slapped. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21318 "2018-06-10T19:39:43Z")
Funny, after all the Republican complaints about Obama’s “Apology tour”, the next president will have to do one for real. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21319 "2018-06-10T19:59:01Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Funny, after all the Republican complaints about Obama’s “Apology tour”, the next president will have to do one for real. We’re going to have to amend the constitution to allow canadians to be president for that sort of apology. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21320 "2018-06-10T20:12:13Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Funny, after all the Republican complaints about Obama’s “Apology tour”, the next president will have to do one for real. Obama got a Nobel Prize for not being Bush. You have to wonder what they’ll give the next Democratic President. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21321 "2018-06-10T20:14:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Obama got a Nobel Prize for not being Bush. You have to wonder what they’ll give the next Democratic President. Hopefully, it will not be head of the executive branch of a bankrupt and burnout nation. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21322 "2018-06-10T20:36:29Z")
Fox & Friends [accidentally tells the truth](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/fox-friends-host-slips-trumps-north-korea-summit-historic-meeting-two-dictators/) about the Trump/Kim photo-op: > [@](#): > > “Anthony, talk to us about this moment,” she said, turning to Scaramucci. “This is history. We are living — regardless of what happens in that **meeting between the two dictators** — what we are seeing right now, this is historic.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21323 "2018-06-10T20:43:00Z")
Fox & Friends host Abby Huntsman called the meeting between Trump and Kim a meeting between “two dictators”. Guest Anthony Scaramucci didn’t even bat an eye. Can you imagine if ABC or NBC had said this? Fox would have exploded. [http://www.newsweek.com/g00/trump-kim-jong-un-fox-friends-dictators-968644?i10c.encReferrer=&i10c.ua=1&i10c.dv=14](http://www.newsweek.com/g00/trump-kim-jong-un-fox-friends-dictators-968644?i10c.encReferrer=&i10c.ua=1&i10c.dv=14) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21324 "2018-06-10T20:52:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The whole administration now is going full on crazy mode against Justin Trudeau. Trade advisor Peter navarro says Trudeau has a special place in hell. > [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/special-place-hell-trump-trudeau-navarro-635100](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/special-place-hell-trump-trudeau-navarro-635100) Trump and his minions have got a fucked up definition of winning. Destroying multiple economies to sooth the delicate ego of an overgrown schoolyard bully is not a win. Making it impossible to deal with his successor is not a win. Destroying your own economy in order to sooth your own oversensitive ego (which you have done) is not a win, either, Donny-Boy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1065) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1067)