# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21345 "2018-06-11T01:54:06Z")

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Trump’s actual advisers had [this to say](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-fox-friends-apos-host-171655600.html) about the meeting in Singapore.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21346 "2018-06-11T02:05:51Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> If it were to happen, it’s unlikely that he’d have to sit to hide it.
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> As unbelievable as it seems, it would appear that Trump’s people are preparing to blame _Justin Trudeau_ for the inevitable failure of the meeting with Kim Jong Un.

Yeah, Larry Kudlow said that flat out

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21347 "2018-06-11T03:01:20Z")

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There are people who work at the White House who piece together the documents Trump tears up, since they have to be preserved by federal law.

> **[There Are People Tasked With Taping Trump’s Papers Back Together After He...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/there-are-people-tasked-with-taping-trumps-papers-back-together-after-he-rips-them.html)**
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> The president's habit of tearing up pieces of paper after he's done with them has been hard to break so aides came up with a workaround.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21348 "2018-06-11T03:15:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There are people who work at the White House who piece together the documents Trump tears up, since they have to be preserved by federal law.  
> [There are people tasked with taping Trump’s papers back together after he rips them.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/there-are-people-tasked-with-taping-trumps-papers-back-together-after-he-rips-them.html)

…but according to the linked article, both of the staffers who were piecing documents back together with Scotch tape were “abruptly fired in the spring without an explanation,” so maybe they’re simply not bothering to comply with the law now?

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21349 "2018-06-11T03:45:46Z")

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Bobby DeNiro says “fuck Trump” at the Tony Awards!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vDxndyKHFCU/maxresdefault.jpg "Robert DeNiro UNCENSORED fuck Trump Tony Awards") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxndyKHFCU)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21350 "2018-06-11T04:50:40Z")

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Under way for a couple weeks now - lawsuits-a-go-go against the GOP\* Administration’s Bannon-concieved citizenship question on the census, which the Commerce dept. apparently issued 1000 fucking pages of documents in support of including the question.

NPR’s Hansi Lo Wang gave a really good [rundown](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-government-documents-reveal-about-the-2020-census), with an initial overview, and likely consequences:

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> **HLW** :  
> The ripple effects are huge, possibly. We have to remember that the census numbers are used to really build our government. They directly impact how many seats of House of Representatives each state gets. It also impacts the government from the federal level down to the local level. How legislative districts are drawn. And again, the federal dollars, how that 800 billion dollars a year, estimated, is distributed. And that directly impacts which highways get repaired, which roads get built, how school districts decide where to build new schools and where businesses decide to build new supermarkets. A lot of is depending upon the census numbers.

\*No - not Grand Old Party…Grandson of Pimp

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21351 "2018-06-11T12:41:44Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> 😃 More jobs than applicants. Unemployment at historic lows. Man, this economy is being destroyed. I knew it was when I looked at my bank account and every day I am richer than the day before. The winning just never stops. Must suck to be a loser, hating the Trump wins.

So now you’re a giant asshole on all three of my message boards. Congratulations?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21352 "2018-06-11T13:32:48Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> As unbelievable as it seems, it would appear that Trump’s people are preparing to blame _Justin Trudeau_ for the inevitable failure of the meeting with Kim Jong Un.

…Trump is saying Trudeau defines what he, Trump, does? So, he’s subordinate to Trudeau?  
I’m reasonably sure if he really was, Trudeau would long have done some extra-nice, extra-polite but extraordinarily firm version of sending Trump to the bad boys’ corner.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21353 "2018-06-11T14:01:59Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> …Trump is saying Trudeau defines what he, Trump, does? So, he’s subordinate to Trudeau?

I \*think \*the idea is that Trump wanted to show Kim he can get \*any \*other countries to subjugate themselves to his bullying, even Canada, so little piss-ant North Korea had better watch out. Trudeau undermined that position and Trump resents it. But, if that was just a negotiating ploy of sorts, it would have been easy to arrange it with Trudeau behind the scenes.

But it takes getting inside Trump’s head to make any sense of it, and we all know what a scary place that is.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21354 "2018-06-11T14:24:34Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But it takes getting inside Trump’s head to make any sense of it, and we all know what a scary place that is.

I picture something like the inside of a pumpkin.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21355 "2018-06-11T15:12:21Z")

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Not sure where to post this. Figured this thread is as good as any.

So Spanky has been on a twitter rampage lately about how unfair all these trade deficits we have are to American farmers and factory workers. The only way out, according to Bonespurs, is to impose tariffs.

Economics is not my strong suit, and international economics even less so. So how will the shit-gibbon, his family, and the wealthy GOP members make money off tariffs?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21356 "2018-06-11T15:17:41Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Not sure where to post this. Figured this thread is as good as any.
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> So Spanky has been on a twitter rampage lately about how unfair all these trade deficits we have are to American farmers and factory workers. The only way out, according to Bonespurs, is to impose tariffs.
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> Economics is not my strong suit, and international economics even less so. So how will the shit-gibbon, his family, and the wealthy GOP members make money off tariffs?

Demand for tariffs is at an all-time high! Just watch as America outpaces the rest of the world in manufacturing new tariffs! We can win the 21st century tariff race! GO TEAM GO #MAGA!

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21357 "2018-06-11T15:54:40Z")

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These will be the best tariffs.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21358 "2018-06-11T16:01:15Z")

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Bigly. Yuge.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21359 "2018-06-11T16:15:27Z")

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I imagine the tariffs are meant to pump up the blue collar voters who believe higher tariffs on imports will mean more manufacturing jobs here. Also, Trump simply can’t fathom a win-win situation. If other countries are happy with something, it must mean we “lost,” therefore pissing the other countries off means we have “won.” I don’t think there’s a direct way for him to profit off of tariffs; on the other hand, if anyone could figure out how to do it, it would be an organized crime goon like Trump.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21360 "2018-06-11T16:16:48Z")

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The very idea that ‘us buying more of their stuff than they but of ours’ is unfair is stupid to begin with.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21361 "2018-06-11T16:41:50Z")

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Tariffs and pardons are the only two things in the presidential tool set that he has figured out how to use.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21362 "2018-06-11T16:50:14Z")

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It’s not every day that Canada gets this kind of international attention.

Thanks Trump!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21363 "2018-06-11T16:53:18Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Tariffs and pardons are the only two things in the presidential tool set that he has figured out how to use.

I remember the good old days when all Trump knew how to use was the TV remote and the White House Twitter account.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21364 "2018-06-11T16:57:34Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> It’s not every day that Canada gets this kind of international attention.
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> Thanks Trump!

I understand Trudeau’s approvals have been down lately. Did he just fix that problem?

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