# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21385 "2018-06-12T01:17:56Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Larry Kudlow just had a heart attack, and is being treated at Walter Reed.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/larry-kudlow-trump-tweet/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/larry-kudlow-trump-tweet/index.html)

I have seldom felt less sympathy for someone seriously ill. He really came across as a psychotic fascist last weekend.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21386 "2018-06-12T01:21:43Z")

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Was he the guy with the flappin jowls on the Sunday political show?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21387 "2018-06-12T01:54:02Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Larry Kudlow just had a heart attack, and is being treated at Walter Reed.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/larry-kudlow-trump-tweet/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/larry-kudlow-trump-tweet/index.html)

Totally aside and unrelated: I hate the CNN site, because it’s one of those sites that’s so full of ads, and animations, and windows that jump around that it’s practically impossible to read. That is all.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21388 "2018-06-12T01:58:02Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Actually, they did. The problem was every time the lights were turned on, the Cabinet would scatter and hide.

Perfect!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21389 "2018-06-12T02:20:15Z")

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State Department Spokeswoman Heather Nauert (she of D Day is an example of US-German cooperation) criticized CNN (and only CNN) for not covering the meeting between Trump and the Us Embassy staff in Singapore. As several people pointed out to her, the meeting was closed to the press.  
[State Department Spokeswoman Bashes CNN For Missing Event Closed To The Press | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-department-cnn-closed-press_us_5b1ecb14e4b09d7a3d75c377)?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21390 "2018-06-12T03:04:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> State Department Spokeswoman Heather Nauert (she of D Day is an example of US-German cooperation) criticized CNN (and only CNN) for not covering the meeting between Trump and the Us Embassy staff in Singapore. As several people pointed out to her, the meeting was closed to the press.  
> [State Department Spokeswoman Bashes CNN For Missing Event Closed To The Press | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-department-cnn-closed-press_us_5b1ecb14e4b09d7a3d75c377)?

The entire (mis/mal)administration is clueless.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21391 "2018-06-12T03:11:26Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Tariffs and pardons are the only two things in the presidential tool set that he has figured out how to use.
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> Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

And “I hear you” cards.

> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I’d put far more faith in the **chimpanzee** , either with a paintbrush or with tariffs and pardons. The chimpanzee is far, far more qualified.

My bold.  
In all fairness, that really should be an orangutan.

I’ll wait till Kudlow gets better before I weigh in again on the dude.

Justin…atta guy!🙂

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21392 "2018-06-12T03:19:11Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Was he the guy with the flappin jowls on the Sunday political show?

Yep, that was him.

Cocaine’s a helluva drug.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21393 "2018-06-12T03:31:06Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Yep, that was him.
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> Cocaine’s a helluva drug.

A $100,000/month cocaine habit can’t do him in, but three months in the Trump White House has him staring at the ceiling of an ambulance.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21394 "2018-06-12T04:06:08Z")

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[Kudlow doing well after mild heart attack](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-12/trump-says-economic-adviser-kudlow-suffered-heart-attack) according to Bloomberg, which it very fortunate, because we desperately need [a man like this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/larry-kudlow-may-have-been-more-wrong-about-the-economy-than-anyone-alive/2018/03/14/a98f2292-27ce-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f8530db22844)  
\*“Despite all the doom and gloom from the economic pessimistas, the resilient U.S. economy continues moving ahead,” Kudlow wrote on Dec. 7, 2007 … “There’s no recession coming. The pessimistas were wrong. It’s not going to happen . . . The Bush boom is alive and well. It’s finishing up its sixth consecutive year with more to come. Yes, it’s still the greatest story never told.” \*

He called all the pessimists “bubbleheads”. We are so lucky to have a smart man like that working for, um, “us”.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21395 "2018-06-12T04:23:21Z")

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As I recall, there were numerous troublesome signs, but GeeDubya brushed them aside by pointing out that the real estate market was smoking hot, and everybody was making money!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21396 "2018-06-12T04:28:02Z")

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Read the story: Kudlow got _every fucking thing_ wrong, all the back to his reaganoid days.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21397 "2018-06-12T09:42:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Totally aside and unrelated: I hate the CNN site, because it’s one of those sites that’s so full of ads, and animations, and windows that jump around that it’s practically impossible to read. That is all.

That’s the same problem I have with the TV channel.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21398 "2018-06-12T09:48:46Z")

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Well, near as I can tell, the Two Dictators Summit produced[nothing of substance](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa/trump-optimistic-on-north-korea-summit-despite-differences-on-ending-nuclear-standoff-idUSKBN1J72PM), except that we probably won’t go to war with North Korea next week (I understand those dates are pencilled in for Canada):

> [@Reuters](#):
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> “President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” said the statement.

I’m sure I’m just not getting the subtle nuances of this precedent-shattering bit of bullshi-- er, diplomacy? Anybody want to explain what, if anything, has actually been agreed to here?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21399 "2018-06-12T10:04:03Z")

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[Trump agreed to stop joint training exercises with South Korea](http://cnbc.com/id/105266838)without any concessions from North Korea:

> [@](#):
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> Importantly, the U.S. leader did reveal that his country will be stopping the war games it conducts near North Korea.
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> That, he said, “will save us a tremendous amount of money — unless and until we see that the future negotiation is not going along like it should … Plus I think it’s very provocative.”
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> He strongly implied that South Korea doesn’t pay enough for those exercises: “That’s certainly a subject that we have to talk to them about.”

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21400 "2018-06-12T10:12:45Z")

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I have to say, I’m impressed with Stormy Daniels and every other woman who’s ever received actual money for having sex with Trump. His preferred MO appears to be “I screw you, you pay me”.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21401 "2018-06-12T10:14:00Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump agreed to stop joint training exercises with South Korea](http://cnbc.com/id/105266838)without any concessions from North Korea:

#Winning?

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21402 "2018-06-12T10:43:11Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump agreed to stop joint training exercises with South Korea](http://cnbc.com/id/105266838)without any concessions from North Korea:

I’m not sure how controversial this really is, though. South Korea’s center-left has been skeptical of its military exercises with the United States for some time.

But I do wonder what European and NATO allies must be thinking right now. If Trump were to meet with Russia’s Putin, and if Putin made a similar offer of deescalation in favor of reducing its military cooperation with European and NATO allies, would Trump take it?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21403 "2018-06-12T10:49:26Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump agreed to stop joint training exercises with South Korea](http://cnbc.com/id/105266838)without any concessions from North Korea:

There were concessions; Kim told Loser Donald that he was very smart and rich and his hands were the biggest anyone’s ever seen.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21404 "2018-06-12T10:51:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> There were concessions; Kim told Loser Donald that he was very smart and rich and his hands were the biggest anyone’s ever seen.

Now THAT’S the kind of #Winning we need more of! :dubious:

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