# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1076
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21505 "2018-06-14T00:16:35Z")
What have we come to as a country? Ripping a child away from her mother while she is [breastfeeding](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-leads-to-surge-in-family-separations-lawyer-says/ar-AAyyBoY?li=BBnbcA1)? How can this be excused? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21506 "2018-06-14T00:22:28Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Does Japan not have a civilian death penalty? You are correct. Thanks for catching that. It illustrates my Euro bias. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21507 "2018-06-14T00:26:14Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > What have we come to as a country? Ripping a child away from her mother while she is [breastfeeding](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-leads-to-surge-in-family-separations-lawyer-says/ar-AAyyBoY?li=BBnbcA1)? How can this be excused? Something about Hillary’s emails. All kidding aside, 40 to 50% of this county is deplorable. I don’t understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21508 "2018-06-14T01:08:49Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > What have we come to as a country? Ripping a child away from her mother while she is [breastfeeding](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-leads-to-surge-in-family-separations-lawyer-says/ar-AAyyBoY?li=BBnbcA1)? How can this be excused? > [@Procrustus](#): > > Something about Hillary’s emails. > > All kidding aside, 40 to 50% of this county is deplorable. I don’t understand it. Hey, they’re just doing as they’re told so they can keep their job… right? I’m already starting to ask myself: [are we the baddies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU)? And it’s embarrassing and frightening to me that it’s now a question I really have and not something just out of a dystopian future story. I mean, do good people separate children from their parents like this? ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21509 "2018-06-14T01:22:54Z")
I’m a month late with this one, just wanted to say at the time my ignorance of Kim Kardashian’s itinerary caused me to think this was an unadulterated threadshit on the part of a moderator here. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854321](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854321) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21510 "2018-06-14T01:28:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s been a while since I kept up with Japanese justice, but the death penalty in Japan is just as wicked as it is here. IIRC, the condemned don’t know when they’re going to the gallows; they’re just taken one random day or night and hanged. Maybe things have changed. Nope. Still the same. And the family is informed afterwards with an inquiry as to what to do with the remains. See [the Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Japan#Execution). ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21511 "2018-06-14T02:37:21Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Hey, they’re just doing as they’re told so they can keep their job… right? Chalk up yet another one for Milgram. > [@](#): > > I’m already starting to ask myself: [are we the baddies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU)? That was awesome, thanks! > [@](#): > > I mean, do good people separate children from their parents like this? I fear that most of us would be savages if given a little encouragement. We Americans like to think we’re better than the Germans who enabled the Holocaust, or the Rwandans who hacked their neighbors to death. Sadly, I have to conclude that we’re not. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21512 "2018-06-14T02:38:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale, calls for CNN’s Jim Acosta’s press credentials to be revoked. > [CNN's Jim Acosta Blasts Trump Official Who Wants His Press Access Revoked | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jim-acosta-donald-trump-media-credentials_us_5b20e077e4b0adfb826f7de4)? Hey, Acosta should consider himself fortunate they’re not sending someone to shoot him on the street. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21513 "2018-06-14T02:50:36Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Hey, Acosta should consider himself fortunate they’re not sending someone to shoot him on the street. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21514 "2018-06-14T02:50:48Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Hey, Acosta should consider himself fortunate they’re not sending someone to shoot him on the street. That’s because Rick Perry has been tasked with finding out where they keep the polonium, and he hasn’t been heard from for three weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21515 "2018-06-14T02:55:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > That’s because Rick Perry has been tasked with finding out where they keep the polonium, and he hasn’t been heard from for three weeks. He’s lost in the gardens, looking for a pretty flower. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21516 "2018-06-14T03:00:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > That’s because Rick Perry has been tasked with finding out where they keep the polonium, and he hasn’t been heard from for three weeks. Has he tried the polo grounds? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21517 "2018-06-14T03:13:43Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > That’s because Rick Perry has been tasked with finding out where they keep the polonium, and he hasn’t been heard from for three weeks. They gave Perry a list of three people who needed to be shot. Acosta was the third, and, well, you know how Perry is with long lists. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21518 "2018-06-14T03:16:00Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > They gave Perry a list of three people who needed to be shot. Acosta was the third, and, well, you know how Perry is with long lists. It was a trick. Perry was second on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21519 "2018-06-14T03:32:00Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Has he tried the polo grounds? Speaking of, and being tangentially related to horses… am I the only person who didn’t read this joke until this afternoon, which completely cracked me up? _Justify won the Belmont Stakes, becoming the 13th triple Crown winner, and turned down an invitation to the White House. Asked why, the winner neighed, “If I wanted to see a horse’s ass, I would’ve finished second."_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21520 "2018-06-14T03:36:54Z")
I guess Acosta should avoid Fifth Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21521 "2018-06-14T04:27:45Z")
Looks like Chump is the US version of Neville Chamberlain. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21522 "2018-06-14T04:32:59Z")
Fox News says criticizing Kim Jong Un is the same as criticizing Trump. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2ktK45TqKi4/maxresdefault.jpg "Detroit Become Human - EVIL KARA Secret Ending - Zlatko Endings - How to Escape the Memory Machine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktK45TqKi4) ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21523 "2018-06-14T04:37:43Z")
[quote=“Rick\_Kitchen, post:21522, topic:774070”] Fox News says criticizing Kim Jong Un is the same as criticizing Trump. [/QUOTE] Unless Fox News is doing video game playthroughs, I suspect that’s the wrong link. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21524 "2018-06-14T10:52:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump says Congress can’t overturn his decision to remove sanctions from ZTE because of separation of powers. I don’t understand his reasoning, but then I doubt if anybody else can either. > [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/13/trump-zte-china-sanctions-623700](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/13/trump-zte-china-sanctions-623700) I don’t understand Trump’s insistence on protecting ZTE, unless it’s just to show China that he’s not intentionally driving them into the ground. IIRC, the company’s financial problems predated Trump and was the result of the restrictions imposed already. The conspiracy theorist wonders if there’s something personally in it for Trump, like a hotel project somewhere in Hainan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1075) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1077)