# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21585 "2018-06-15T05:58:48Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Spicer and Rosanne should be there looking for a job

Hey, I could grok Rosanne in the Briefing Room. No podium/lectern, she would just stroll around the stage with a mic in her hand, bellowing snide comments. It would be a perfect embodiment of Clusterfuck Extraordinaire.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21586 "2018-06-15T07:39:51Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> These fuckers can’t make up their minds. They want everything both ways and every possible way. There’s a law, but there isn’t, but let’s pretend to follow it because that’s the biblical thing to do, it’s a terrible law that doesn’t actually exist but let’s blame it on the Dems, if people cross the border we HAVE to wrest their kids away because of the law/policy/whatever the fuck it is, but we don’t actually have to. But we are.

Just remember that these are the same cretins who spent the last 20 years campaigning against gay marriage with the argument that _every child deserves a mother and father._

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21587 "2018-06-15T08:48:08Z")

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Huckabee’s father was happy to stand with Kim Davis when she denied marriage licenses to gay couples. I don’t recall any talk of it being biblical to follow the law then. I’m beginning to think conservatives will never tire of being complete hypocrites.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21588 "2018-06-15T09:29:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Matthew 19:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A14&version=KJV)
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> The Constipated Gnome will think that means he can execute them.

… I sometimes wonder if we should all go back to the Vulgata…

The Spanish versions are in a different order, so it’s more like “Jesus said: let the children come to me, do not obstruct them, for the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to them”.

Does a hardcopy edition of the Bible, printed in old-person sizes, count as a blunt weapon?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21589 "2018-06-15T09:31:32Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> … I sometimes wonder if we should all go back to the Vulgata…
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> The Spanish version is more along the lines of “Jesus said: let the children come to me, do not impede them, for the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to them”.
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> Does a hardcopy edition of the Bible, printed in old-person sizes, count as a blunt weapon?

Why not? After all, those bastards are using its words as weapons.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21590 "2018-06-15T12:25:46Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Huckabee’s father was happy to stand with Kim Davis when she denied marriage licenses to gay couples. I don’t recall any talk of it being biblical to follow the law then. I’m beginning to think conservatives will never tire of being complete hypocrites.

It’s simple: the law about gay marriage is an _unjust_ law, because it goes against Leviticus; the law mandating separating families — well, we can’t exactly find it, but wherever it is, it’s a _just_ law because … well, it’s in the Bible somewhere. If you turn it sideways and squint real hard. Sort of like a fnord.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21591 "2018-06-15T12:33:58Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yet another un-spinnable lie by Trump. The quantity of them–it’s a fairly long list, now–must be breaking at least a few Trump-fan brains.

Oh, I certainly hope so!

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21592 "2018-06-15T12:46:40Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> You know, between the Immigration thing, the Trump Foundation thing, Cohen, the $50b of tariffs against China that Trump just announced, and the bad reviews of the North Korea meeting, I feel like Trump’s on the precipice of becoming a lame-duck President. Yes, he can sink a congressman in the primaries and so no one can directly say anything negative about him, but that only works if there are only a handful of representatives against him and if he can identify who those people are. In groups, or by working quietly, they can all just silently ignore and defuse everything that Trump does.
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> But, fundamentally, he’s just not bringing anything positive to the table and all of the criminal and civil proceedings are finally making their way into the court system and are painting a pretty undeniable picture. No matter how partisan you are, you can’t read the Trump Foundation filing and not come away with the impression that the man is, indeed, incompetent and criminal. And then when you’re asking yourself whether you want that man running a trade war against China? Maybe you won’t speak out publicly, but I think you’re going to know what everyone else in Congress is thinking and you’ll be able to start getting some provisions passed through that block Trump from doing much, without having to make any loud or public statements about it.

I’m afraid you’re suffering from Severe Rationality Syndrome. In Trumpkinland, the Trump Foundation misdeeds are minor technicalities that happen to all charitable organizations and everywhere else Donald is Getting Things Done That We Like.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21593 "2018-06-15T13:08:31Z")

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The President of the United States, speaking about Kim Jong Un on Fox News a few minutes ago: “He’s the head of a country, and I mean he is the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” ([cite](https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1007607112128716801))

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21594 "2018-06-15T13:22:17Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> The President of the United States, speaking about Kim Jong Un on Fox News a few minutes ago: “He’s the head of a country, and I mean he is the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” ([cite](https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1007607112128716801))

Adds to the list of things that Foxnews would have had apoplectic talking heads screaming about 24/7 had Obama said it.

When the inevitably say he was joking when he said this, watch the video. There is no humor in him as he says this. None.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21595 "2018-06-15T13:40:15Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> “I’ve spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don’t know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That’s how I saw it, and see it still.”
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> - Ronald Reagan

If a Republican said something like this today they’d throw him out of the party.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21596 "2018-06-15T13:41:04Z")

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“‘Fired’ may be a nice word. Ha! Ha! Because I really mean: they got a bullet in the back of the head. Oh, must be nice…”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21597 "2018-06-15T14:15:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Matthew 19:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A14&version=KJV)
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> The Constipated Gnome will think that means he can execute them.

Well, why not? Other parts of the Bybul say it’s okay to dash the brains of your enemies’ children out against a wall.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21598 "2018-06-15T14:20:10Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> The President of the United States, speaking about Kim Jong Un on Fox News a few minutes ago: “He’s the head of a country, and I mean he is the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” ([cite](https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1007607112128716801))

MY PEOPLE?

What. The. Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Inferior\_Desecrator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Inferior\_Desecrator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inferior_Desecrator)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21599 "2018-06-15T14:29:34Z")

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I’m a reader, not a writer, but in all I’ve read about “it” (reference intentional) that was chilling.

You folks have got to fix this.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21600 "2018-06-15T14:33:26Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> The President of the United States, speaking about Kim Jong Un on Fox News a few minutes ago: “He’s the head of a country, and I mean he is the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” ([cite](https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1007607112128716801))

Oh, we’re paying attention, don’t worry about that.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21601 "2018-06-15T14:50:58Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Oh, we’re paying attention, don’t worry about that.

Unfortunately, nearly half of the people who are paying attention are just fine with it. Threaten autocracy to own the libtards!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21602 "2018-06-15T14:55:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> MY PEOPLE?
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> What. The. Fuck.

[Tropic Thunder]

What do you mean, “my people”?"

[/TT]

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21603 "2018-06-15T15:02:59Z")

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The truth of the matter is that Trump is everything that opponents feared he would be, and everything that his supporters hoped he would be.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21604 "2018-06-15T17:03:51Z")

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Now that Manafort’s bail has been revoked, what becomes of the $10,000,000? It it forfeited or does it go back to whomever posted it?

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