# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1081
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21605 "2018-06-15T17:05:52Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Now that Manafort’s bail has been revoked, what becomes of the $10,000,000? It it forfeited or does it go back to whomever posted it? Typically, it will be returned. It was posted to secure his attendance in court. He appeared for all hearings. Although there might be an argument that he violated conditions of release and should forfeit bail, the remedy for that was to revoke his release, not taking the bail money. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21606 "2018-06-15T17:36:20Z")
I see no reason why mere legality should stand in the way of such sweet justice. “Hi, Bob! I’m your cellmate, my name is Bubba, and you can call me “Sir”.” ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21607 "2018-06-15T17:37:06Z")
The bible endorses slavery, genocide and the killing of all first born sons…what _are_ the current ICE guidelines about first born sons? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21608 "2018-06-15T17:46:14Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Adds to the list of things that Foxnews would have had apoplectic talking heads screaming about 24/7 had Obama said it. > > When the inevitably say he was joking when he said this, watch the video. There is no humor in him as he says this. None. How about [sarcasm](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/15/antsy-and-bored-trump-nearly-left-kim-summit-in-peril-report-says)? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21609 "2018-06-15T17:56:34Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Now that Manafort’s bail has been revoked… That’s _one_ way to get rid of the ankle bracelets! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21610 "2018-06-15T18:11:36Z")
'Tis a pity New York State has such strict limits on civil forfeiture. I would have loved to have seen them seize 666 5th and everything else remotely associated with Trump/Kushner/et al. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21611 "2018-06-15T19:12:50Z")
Thanks Procrustus. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21612 "2018-06-15T19:34:57Z")
Someone tweets that, on _Shitgibbon & Friends_, he repeated the claim that “so many” parents of Korean War veterans have been asking him to get the remains of Americans who died there brought home. **Parents** of **Korean War vets**. So very many of them (who would basically have to be in their tenth, eleventh or twelfth decade of life). ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21613 "2018-06-15T19:46:21Z")
[The US is about to leave the UN’s Human Rights Council](https://apnews.com/c7037593a84a43f799282a94fca0a957/When,-not-if:-US-poised-to-quit-UN's-human-rights-council)! Oh yeah, this’ll do wonders for our ability to claim the moral high ground. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > The move would be the Trump administration’s latest snub of the international community. The U.S. State Department said Friday no decision has been made to leave. > > But diplomats who requested anonymity said it appears more a matter of when, not if, the pullout threatened last year by the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, will happen. > > Never in the 12 years of the Human Rights Council, which is tasked with spotlighting and approving investigations of suspected rights abuses, has a serving member dropped out voluntarily. Seven years ago, in the midst of the Arab Spring, Moammar Gadhafi’s Libya was kicked out with the approval of the U.N. General Assembly, which has final say. > > The 47-member council opens the second of its three annual sessions Monday, when U.N. human rights chief Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein makes his last address to a regular meeting before stepping down in August. The United States could announce its decision as early as Tuesday, a U.S. official said. > > The official, who was not authorized to publicly discuss the matter and requested anonymity, said it was “all but decided” that the U.S. will pull out. Sesriously: we are a horse’s ass of a country right now. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21614 "2018-06-15T20:19:56Z")
All according to plan. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21615 "2018-06-15T21:54:00Z")
Might as well start practicing our “Blessed be the fruits” and “Under his eye.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21616 "2018-06-15T22:03:13Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > All according to plan. Yup, and more and more the plan seems to be the boneheaded idea that the more destabilized the whole world is, the more the US can benefit from it’s natural advantages, just like the period after WW2. Problem with that is, the reason we benefited then was because we were the hub of stability for an unstable world. If the world sees us as a source of instability, we will not benefit from the world’s instability, most likely China will. I’m starting to think Trump was so outwardly accommodating to NK because when that whole thing falls apart (which is the outcome I’m thinking he actually prefers), he can point at how much he tried to avoid war by having acted nice, and now Congress has to let him take the gloves off. If I’m right about that, I just hope his ultimate goal isn’t to bring on war with China to take out the competition while we still have the advantage. Because that’s basically where we’re at. If Trump and the Republican party want to improve their near future electoral results, a war with an enemy we can all rally against would be indispensable. Happy Friday! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21617 "2018-06-15T22:20:21Z")
I still can’t figure out if the GOP immigration policy is an evil Democratic law that the Trump administration is reluctantly following, or a righteous Biblical policy on loan from God himself. Because it sort of can’t be both. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21618 "2018-06-15T22:23:14Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I still can’t figure out if the GOP immigration policy is an evil Democratic law that the Trump administration is reluctantly following, or a righteous Biblical policy on loan from God himself. Because it sort of can’t be both. You have yet to master the art of Trumplethink. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21619 "2018-06-15T22:47:06Z")
Ah, the language they speak in _Trumplethinkskin_. ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21620 "2018-06-15T23:25:28Z")
It’s an evil democratic law, and it’s from God. Therefore, Democrats are God. And Trump is the guy God warns us about. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21621 "2018-06-15T23:43:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I still can’t figure out if the GOP immigration policy is an evil Democratic law that the Trump administration is reluctantly following, or a righteous Biblical policy on loan from God himself. Because it sort of can’t be both. And on that note, nearly 2000 children (yes, you read that right, people from other countries who can’t believe how fucked up America is) have been taken from their parents. That’ll teach their desperate parents to seek a better life. MAGA motherfuckers. [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-children/government-says-nearly-2000-child-separations-at-mexico-border-in-under-two-months-idUSKBN1JB2SF](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-children/government-says-nearly-2000-child-separations-at-mexico-border-in-under-two-months-idUSKBN1JB2SF) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21622 "2018-06-15T23:47:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I still can’t figure out if the GOP immigration policy is an evil Democratic law that the Trump administration is reluctantly following, or a righteous Biblical policy on loan from God himself. Because it sort of can’t be both. And on that note, nearly 2000 children (yes, you read that right, people from other countries who can’t believe how fucked up America is) have been taken from their parents. That’ll teach their desperate parents to seek a better life. MAGA motherfuckers. [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-children/government-says-nearly-2000-child-separations-at-mexico-border-in-under-two-months-idUSKBN1JB2SF](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-children/government-says-nearly-2000-child-separations-at-mexico-border-in-under-two-months-idUSKBN1JB2SF) "The number represents a dramatic uptick from the nearly 1,800 family separations that Reuters reported had happened from October 2016 through February of this year. The official tally of separations is now nearly 4,000 children, not including March and the beginning of April 2018. " ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21623 "2018-06-15T23:49:15Z")
That was supposed to be an edit, not another post. Fuck this software sometimes. While I’m here again: MAGA MOTHERFUCKERS! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21624 "2018-06-16T00:03:14Z")
More Manafort news: > [@](#): > > [Trump Aide Connected To 2006 Overseas Attack On US Marines](https://taskandpurpose.com/manafort-connected-ukraine-attack-marines-trump/) > > …In short: An American citizen who helped elect a conservative president with a strong patriotic, pro-military message was on the payroll of a foreign group that the U.S. government believes directly threatened its military personnel and undermined its foreign policy. Ukrainian officials and some former U.S. diplomats I’ve spoken to are convinced that Manafort knew about, and possibly helped plan, the anti-American protests. > > It sounds outrageous, and amid 2016’s outrageous election cycle, the story didn’t get much play — especially since Manafort officially resigned from Trump’s campaign last summer, amid a flurry of negative stories about his Ukraine and Russia connections. But as Mueller’s investigation ramps up and focuses on Manafort’s financials, new reports lend additional credence to the possibility that Manafort was at least partly culpable in the targeting of U.S. Marines… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1080) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1082)