# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1088
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21745 "2018-06-19T03:21:48Z")
This presidency had jumped the shark. I say we cancel the rest of the episodes. \*\*Trump Orders Establishment of Space Force as Sixth Military Branch \*\*[https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg](https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Monday that he would direct the Pentagon to establish a sixth branch of the armed forces dedicated to protecting American interests in outer space, an idea that has troubled lawmakers and even some members of his administration, who have cautioned that the action could create unnecessary bureaucratic responsibilities for a military already burdened by conflicts. > > During a speech at a meeting of the National Space Council, Mr. Trump announced plans to protect American interests in space through monitoring commercial traffic and debris, initiatives he said would be “great not only in terms of jobs and everything else, it’s great for the psyche of our country.” > … “The psyche of the country.” Does he have any idea what he means by that? Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21746 "2018-06-19T03:24:54Z")
Didn’t the creation of the Air Force require an act of Congress? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21747 "2018-06-19T03:33:54Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > HOLY SHIT. > > Trump has done the impossible. By being such a loon, he has made [Cruz seem like a reasonable guy](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cruz-announces-bill-to-end-separation-of-immigrant-families/ar-AAyPIlD). That ain’t nothing - Trump has managed to get [Franklin Fucking Graham](https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475892/white-house-migrant-families-biblical-franklin-graham-sbc-catholic-bishops) (pretty sure that’s his legal name) to[come out against him](http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/june/its-disgraceful-franklin-graham-rebukes-immigration-policy-on-drawing-national-attention): > [@Franklin Fucking Graham](#): > > It’s disgraceful, and it’s terrible to see families ripped apart and I don’t support that one bit. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21748 "2018-06-19T03:39:47Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > That ain’t nothing - Trump has managed to get [Franklin Fucking Graham](https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475892/white-house-migrant-families-biblical-franklin-graham-sbc-catholic-bishops) (pretty sure that’s his legal name) to[come out against him](http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/june/its-disgraceful-franklin-graham-rebukes-immigration-policy-on-drawing-national-attention): Bill O’Reilly has also come out in opposition to the policy. When even O’Reilly thinks you’re beyond the pale, you probably want to reconsider your approach. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21749 "2018-06-19T03:45:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Didn’t the creation of the Air Force require an act of Congress? Yes. When the Space Force is duly constituted by an act of Congress, I will join them by flapping my arms and flying to the moon. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21750 "2018-06-19T04:05:33Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Some interesting comments about Chief of Staff Kelly, buried in a Politico [piece](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/nielsen-trump-border-children-family-separation-653265) about Kirstjen Nielsen and immigration. Yeah, well, fuck John Kelly. He can’t disown the condescending and derogatory comments about people of color in public and (reportedly) in private. The “adult” in the room was one of Trump’s worst enablers. In fact, I’d argue that the damage John Kelly has done with his enabling of Trump is worse than Steve Bannon’s. At least we knew from day one who Bannon was, and what ideas he represented. We thought more highly of Kelly, in part because we have been taught to respect career military officials who rise to the rank of general. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21751 "2018-06-19T04:22:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This presidency had jumped the shark. I say we cancel the rest of the episodes. > > \*\*Trump Orders Establishment of Space Force as Sixth Military Branch \*\*[https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg](https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg) A question that should always be asked of Republicans: how are you going to pay for this? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21752 "2018-06-19T04:23:35Z")
Not it! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21753 "2018-06-19T05:01:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This presidency had jumped the shark. I say we cancel the rest of the episodes. Would that it were so easy! > [@](#): > > \*\*Trump Orders Establishment of Space Force as Sixth Military Branch \*\*[https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg](https://nyti.ms/2JZCZJg) As mentioned, that’s likely going to take an Act of Congress. But here’s a nifty query regarding the proposed “force”: How will it _not_ be a violation of current treaties regarding space? > [@](#): > > “The psyche of the country.” Does he have any idea what he means by that? Never mind. When discussing anyone else, the usage is “Does he have any idea…?” For Trump, it’s simply, “Does he have any idea?” ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21754 "2018-06-19T06:00:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > As mentioned, that’s likely going to take an Act of Congress. But here’s a nifty query regarding the proposed “force”: How will it _not_ be a violation of current treaties regarding space? Uh, **Monty** , haven’t you been paying attention? I don’t think this administration gives a rip if there is a treaty or not. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21755 "2018-06-19T06:24:07Z")
Was it signed? Doesn’t count if its not signed! Its like permanent King’s X! ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21756 "2018-06-19T06:57:53Z")
And if it’s signed it doesn’t matter anyway. If it’s something other people are happy with, We are not! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21757 "2018-06-19T08:15:25Z")
“…And I met with the Zergon leader, very talented, good negotiator, very forward thinking. They have even developed a lengthy plan for cultural and personal interchange with humans, outlined in a book. We have a copy, but translation is difficult, we only have the title so far. Its very encouraging, something about serving us, so we are all hugely excited…” ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21758 "2018-06-19T08:27:42Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > And if it’s signed it doesn’t matter anyway. If it’s something other people are happy with, We are not! Good thing even signatures are argued against here. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21759 "2018-06-19T09:47:08Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > A question that should always be asked of Republicans: how are you going to pay for this? Don’t worry, Mexico’s got it covered. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21760 "2018-06-19T09:56:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “…And I met with the Zergon leader, very talented, good negotiator, very forward thinking. They have even developed a lengthy plan for cultural and personal interchange with humans, outlined in a book. We have a copy, but translation is difficult, we only have the title so far. Its very encouraging, something about serving us, so we are all hugely excited…” Wasn’t that a Troll book? “How to serve humans”, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21761 "2018-06-19T10:44:10Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Wasn’t that a Troll book? “How to serve humans”, IIRC. Simpsons reference, I think. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21762 "2018-06-19T10:44:59Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Shouldn’t you be polishing your Iron Cross right now? Unlikely. No matter how many pictures of kids in cages he looks at, his Iron Cross remains too soft to polish. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21763 "2018-06-19T10:50:36Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > Simpsons reference, I think. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ) Earlier than that, Twilight Zone. > **[To Serve Man (The Twilight Zone)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29?wprov=sfla1)** > > "To Serve Man" is the 24th episode of the third season of the anthology series The Twilight Zone, and the 89th overall. It originally aired on March 2, 1962, on CBS. Based on Damon Knight's 1950 short story of the same title, the episode was written by Rod Serling and directed by Richard L. Bare. It is considered one of the best episodes from the series, particularly for its final twist. > Respectfully submitted for your perusal — a Kanamit. Height: a little over nine feet. Weight: in the neighb... ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21764 "2018-06-19T10:59:02Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > Simpsons reference, I think. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ) > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Earlier than that, Twilight Zone. > > [To Serve Man (The Twilight Zone) - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29?wprov=sfla1) And even earlier: [To Serve Man - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1087) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1089)