# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1089
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21765 "2018-06-19T12:08:38Z")
> **[Trump tariffs: US escalates trade threats to China](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44529149)** > > The threat escalates a tit-for-tat trade row with Beijing over US tariffs imposed on Chinese goods. From the BBC article: > [@](#): > > US President Donald Trump has threatened to impose tariffs on an additional $200bn (£151bn) of Chinese goods in a growing trade row. The markets may not be in bear territory yet, but this is the real danger with Trump. There’s no strategy, just ego. He escalates and counter-escalates. I suspect eventually he will concede and then claim he’s won something, when in reality he’s just agreeing to whatever was already proposed. We can shrug it off at first, but at some point, people and markets, are going to eventually come to the conclusion that this dotard is no businessman, no negotiator, and has no idea what he’s doing. But he has trillions of dollars of treasury and God-like powers in his hands. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21766 "2018-06-19T12:15:08Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > And even earlier: [To Serve Man - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man) …and the aliens were the Kanamit. Played in the Twilight Zone by Richard Kiel (later “Jaws” in the Bond films) with a big domed forehead. But in the original story, pig-like aliens. Some people like the story so much they base their sig lines on it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21767 "2018-06-19T12:47:14Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > … There’s no strategy, just ego. … This is it in a nutshell. Emphasis on the _nut_. (But no actual _nuts_.) ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21768 "2018-06-19T13:50:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This is it in a nutshell. Emphasis on the _nut_. (But no actual _nuts_.) Not even leech-ey nuts? (Yes, I know it’s not really a nut. But I chose not to pass up the opportunity.) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21769 "2018-06-19T14:19:31Z")
I’m wondering if General Beauregard possibly fired himself with this CNN interview. > **[Sessions: Migrant children facilities not like Nazi Germany because ‘they...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/politics/jeff-sessions-immigration-border-separation/index.html)** > > Attorney General Jeff Sessions dismissed comparisons of the detention facilities for migrant children to Nazi concentration camps by arguing that Nazis “were keeping the Jews from leaving the country.” > [@](#): > > Sessions: Migrant children facilities not like Nazi Germany because ‘they were keeping the Jews from leaving’ Perhaps this was Trump’s intent all along? Or maybe it’s not, but truth be damned, he could certainly view this as an opportunity to blame someone else - someone he’s wanted to fire for a long time - for his own position. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21770 "2018-06-19T15:24:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “…And I met with the Zergon leader,…” Kanamit leader. EDIT: Never mind. CalMeacham beat me to the name. . ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21771 "2018-06-19T15:59:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Was it signed? Doesn’t count if its not signed! "Peculiar thing about this document. It was never notarized. " ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21772 "2018-06-19T16:17:15Z")
[Bible Stories with Jeff Sessions.](https://boingboing.net/2018/06/19/bible-stories-with-u-s-attor.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21773 "2018-06-19T16:25:52Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > Simpsons reference, I think. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758XBQ) This just in: **Maus Magill** is compiling a list of people who need to stay off his lawn. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21774 "2018-06-19T17:06:08Z")
[Two Florida Democrats have been denied entrance to a detention center in Miami.](https://www.local10.com/news/politics/nelson-wasserman-schultz-denied-entry-into-homestead-child-migrant-detention-facility) > [@](#): > > The senator and congresswoman were told they would be “trespassing” if they attempted to enter the center. [The company running this facility told us we would be welcomed to tour the facility. HHS then denied us entry and said that they need “two weeks notice” to allow us inside. That’s ridiculous and it’s clear this administration is hiding something.](http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/19/nelson-wasserman-schultz-shut-out-of-facility-holding-immigrant-kids/) ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21775 "2018-06-19T17:11:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Was it signed? Doesn’t count if its not signed! Its like permanent King’s X! Does that go for NDAs as well? Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21776 "2018-06-19T17:26:01Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Two Florida Democrats have been denied entrance to a detention center in Miami.](https://www.local10.com/news/politics/nelson-wasserman-schultz-denied-entry-into-homestead-child-migrant-detention-facility) > > [The company running this facility told us we would be welcomed to tour the facility. HHS then denied us entry and said that they need “two weeks notice” to allow us inside. That’s ridiculous and it’s clear this administration is hiding something.](http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/19/nelson-wasserman-schultz-shut-out-of-facility-holding-immigrant-kids/) I saw another story about a Congressman who tried to enter a facility. Are Senators and such just able to show up and gain access to these facilities? Seems like they would need to run it through somebody first, if only to set up escorts or something. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21777 "2018-06-19T17:27:56Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Are Senators and such just able to show up and gain access to these facilities? Schultz and Nelson are Democrats, if that helps enlighten you. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21778 "2018-06-19T17:38:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Schultz and Nelson are Democrats, if that helps enlighten you. That doesn’t really answer the question, no. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21779 "2018-06-19T17:42:32Z")
Despite all of the backlogged immigration cases, Trump doesn’t want more immigration judges, just a wall. > **[Trump rejects calls for more immigration judges: ‘We have to have a real...](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393031-trump-rejects-calls-for-additional-immigration-judges-we-have-to-have/)** > > \ \\ \\ \ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21780 "2018-06-19T17:44:30Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Two Florida Democrats have been denied entrance to a detention center in Miami.](https://www.local10.com/news/politics/nelson-wasserman-schultz-denied-entry-into-homestead-child-migrant-detention-facility) > > [The company running this facility told us we would be welcomed to tour the facility. HHS then denied us entry and said that they need “two weeks notice” to allow us inside. That’s ridiculous and it’s clear this administration is hiding something.](http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/19/nelson-wasserman-schultz-shut-out-of-facility-holding-immigrant-kids/) Why aren’t they publicizing the address of this facility so that concerned Americans can show up to seek an accounting of what is being done in their names? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21781 "2018-06-19T17:55:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Rick Kitchen View Post > Jefferson Beauregard claims the Bible gives him the right to separate children from their parents and keep them in concentration camps. > [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...m\_npd\_nn\_tw\_ma](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...m_npd_nn_tw_ma) [The Good Christian folks from Sessions’ church have weighed in.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hundreds-of-members-at-sessionss-church-write-formal-complaint-over-immigration-policy/ar-AAyQMPK) > [@](#): > > More than 600 members of the United Methodist Church signed onto a letter Monday condemning Attorney General Jeff Sessions for the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant parents and children at the U.S. border. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21782 "2018-06-19T18:25:23Z")
It’s good to see a story in the news where referring to the people involved as ‘Good Christians’ is entirely true, and not a sarcastic synonym for ‘distorting or discarding all of Christ’s teachings, but thinking they’re good with him because they hate the queers’. On the other hand, it’s sad we’ve gotten to the point where that is the newsworthy version… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21783 "2018-06-19T18:41:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why aren’t they publicizing the address of this facility so that concerned Americans can show up to seek an accounting of what is being done in their names? [“Homestead Temporary Shelter for Unaccompanied Children”? More like “Area 51”!](http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/19/this-is-the-immigration-compound-bill-nelson-will-visit-at-noon/) > [@](#): > > [A] private security guard tried to block media from filming the scene from a public road outside the facility, accusing the reporters and photographers of trespassing. ---
**Author:** ![pieceoftheuniverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@pieceoftheuniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pieceoftheuniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21784 "2018-06-19T18:42:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > As mentioned, that’s likely going to take an Act of Congress. But here’s a nifty query regarding the proposed “force”: How will it _not_ be a violation of current treaties regarding space? You can read the [1967 Outer Space Treaty](http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/outerspacetreaty.html) for yourself (it’s not long). Your concerns are specifically about Article IV, which proscribes against nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as being generally against military outposts on the moon (or other celestial bodies). Nothing about satellites or weapons of general, wanton destruction (bullets firing from a gun are fine, so long as they are not [Rods of Doom](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ColonyDrop)). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1088) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1090)