# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2161 "2017-03-10T02:36:23Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Thanks. I am genuinely overwhelmed and I missed it at the time. > > CAUSE IT’S STILL NOT OK AND NOT ENOUGH. What would’ve been enough? How many times would he have had to apologize to satisfy you? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2162 "2017-03-10T02:39:21Z")
Ha, I remember that footage. He still looks like an angry eight year-old who’s been told to say he’s sorry and clearly doesn’t feel he is or should be. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2163 "2017-03-10T02:39:45Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > What would’ve been enough? How many times would he have had to apologize to satisfy you? ☹ He didn’t apologize for the act(not that anyone with a brain would believe him), he apologized for saying it. Remember, he once said he had never done anything to be forgiven for. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2164 "2017-03-10T02:39:49Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I don’t recall ever saying anyone accused Hillary of assault. > > There have, however, been credible sexual assault allegations against Hillary’s hubby, the female accusers who Hillary decided to viciously attack ([http://www.dailywire.com/news/9585/9-times-hillary-clinton-threatened-smeared-or-amanda-prestigiacomo](http://www.dailywire.com/news/9585/9-times-hillary-clinton-threatened-smeared-or-amanda-prestigiacomo)). You say you’re a student. You’re not going to get very far in life if you continue to respond to reasonable criticism by deflecting blame onto others. Something wrong isn’t okay just because others do it. If you want to be a good and successful person in the long run, you’re gonna have to take responsibility for your own wrongdoing (like plagiarism), as well as stop excusing the wrongdoing of those you support simply because others may have done it too. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2165 "2017-03-10T02:43:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You say you’re a student. You’re not going to get very far in life if you continue to respond to reasonable criticism by deflecting blame onto others. Something wrong isn’t okay just because others do it. If you want to be a good and successful person in the long run, you’re gonna have to take responsibility for your own wrongdoing (like plagiarism), as well as stop excusing the wrongdoing of those you support simply because others may have done it too. Enough with the plagiarism, I quoted someone else on an online forum and didn’t originally give credit, no, but a guy who quoted MLK here didn’t give credit either. Obviously, I never plagiarize on college assignments, buddy. I’m not excusing it, I’m saying Trump more than made up for what he said on the tape. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2166 "2017-03-10T02:51:58Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > So you actually believe that he often doesn’t tell the truth but you take him at his word that he’s now telling the truth that he wasn’t telling the truth back then. Now now. It’s a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of the human gut. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2167 "2017-03-10T02:55:19Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m from Rutgers, thank you very much, it is certainly isn’t the Pepperdine of the East. It’s a vibrant, fun-loving and gorgeous campus. Skipped high school, did you, Commissar? I believe I predicted such a change in your, let’s call it, outlook. (Sadly, I think I only shared that prediction via PM with a reputable (as in actually reputable) person. Now that you have a little (very little, obviously) more education than during your previous incarnation here, you’ve discovered that your old idols are not what they (and you) pretended they were. So you have now latched onto what you believe is there diametric opposite and, since you still have no clue, you’re mistaken as to what their opposites are. And you’re still not providing links to anything other than what supports your preconceptions. Commissar, TTFNT. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2168 "2017-03-10T02:55:41Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Here we go again. [EPA chief disagrees that carbon dioxide is primary cause of global warming](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-scott-pruitt-epa-global-warming-20170309-story.html). > > Where do we find such people? Oh yeah, [Oklahoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pruitt). Oh, but Trump was kidding… [Sarcasm] Nah, personnel is policy. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2169 "2017-03-10T03:00:13Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Skipped high school, did you, Commissar? I believe I predicted such a change in your, let’s call it, outlook. (Sadly, I think I only shared that prediction via PM with a reputable (as in actually reputable) person. Now that you have a little (very little, obviously) more education than during your previous incarnation here, you’ve discovered that your old idols are not what they (and you) pretended they were. So you have now latched onto what you believe is there diametric opposite and, since you still have no clue, you’re mistaken as to what their opposites are. And you’re still not providing links to anything other than what supports your preconceptions. > > Commissar, TTFNT. What the fuck? This is my first account, I have no previous incarnation. And I need not skip high school. I provided a link to Trump apologizing when asked to do so. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2170 "2017-03-10T03:03:57Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Enough with the plagiarism, I quoted someone else on an online forum and didn’t originally give credit, no, but a guy who quoted MLK here didn’t give credit either. Obviously, I never plagiarize on college assignments, buddy. > I’m not excusing it, I’m saying Trump more than made up for what he said on the tape. You didn’t quote someone else, you wrote it verbatim without attribution. Yes, someone else related a MLK quote, but unlike yours it was a well known quote that any educated person recognizes. In the small chance that the poster was trying to take credit for it, they deserve condemnation. You’re still making excuses, for yourself, and for Trump. That’s not going to work for yourself in life, unless in the off chance you come from a multi millionaire family (like Trump). He might get away with being an abusive, lying jerk who never takes responsibility for his wrong actions, but you probably won’t. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2171 "2017-03-10T03:04:57Z")
Not an abusive lying jerk but ok ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2172 "2017-03-10T03:11:47Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Not an abusive lying jerk but ok Did you just wake from a coma? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2173 "2017-03-10T03:14:41Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Did you just wake from a coma? No. If there is anyone’s health you should be worried about, it’s the Democrats suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2174 "2017-03-10T03:35:40Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No. If there is anyone’s health you should be worried about, it’s the Democrats suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Meh, nothing could show **your** derangement more clearly than you still having the idea that conservative Republicans like yourself do believe that the climate is changing, in reality Trump an many others in power continue to deny even that. > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … > [@](#): > > **Woman:** “I’m a volunteer with the League of Conservation Voters and we want to know about what your plan is to reduce pollution that is driving climate change and endangering public health.” > > **Trump** : "That’s an interesting question. Let me ask you a question… Ok, so we have global, let me ask you this, ok to [hissing and some boos from the crowd] take it easy… > > How many people, how many people here believe in global warming? [Turns around looks for hands up] You believe in global warming? > Who believes in global warming? > Who believes in global warming? > Raise your hand, nobody? \* > One person…" Trump just then dismissed the woman that put the question to him by again ignoring the question. What Trump did there is worse than ignorance, it is malpractice. **Even professional “skeptics” tell us that global warming is happening but is natural** , so the answer should had been an emphatic **yes** , but not even that :smack: For Trump it was more important to keep his crowd as ignorant as possible, nothing at all like when John McCain told a follower how wrong she was for telling the crowd that Obama was not born an American. The irrational thing here is to deny the climate change that the observed warming is causing and that humans are the big factor of it nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2175 "2017-03-10T03:42:00Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Enough with the plagiarism, I quoted someone else on an online forum and didn’t originally give credit, no, but a guy who quoted MLK here didn’t give credit either. Obviously, I never plagiarize on college assignments, buddy. > I’m not excusing it, I’m saying Trump more than made up for what he said on the tape. A paragraph of George W.'s 2000 acceptance speech isn’t just “someone else on an online forum.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2176 "2017-03-10T03:42:40Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Not an abusive lying jerk but ok Sad. Hopefully you’ll grow up at some point and stop making excuses and deflecting blame, for yourself and others you support. Consider joining the military – you’ll be forced to either grow up and learn to admit your own faults or you’ll wash out. At least you’d learn what kind of man you really are. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2177 "2017-03-10T03:44:06Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No. If there is anyone’s health you should be worried about, it’s the Democrats suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Apparently pointing out things Trump has actually said and done counts as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”. Unrepentant plagiarism, on the other hand, is just good old fashioned intellectual cowardice. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2178 "2017-03-10T03:50:27Z")
Ahhh, a Limbaugh listener. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2179 "2017-03-10T03:53:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Ahhh, a Limbaugh listener. Tucker Carlson and Hannity, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2180 "2017-03-10T03:54:39Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > the female accusers who Hillary decided to viciously attack ([http://www.dailywire.com/news/9585/9-times-hillary-clinton-threatened-smeared-or-amanda-prestigiacomo](http://www.dailywire.com/news/9585/9-times-hillary-clinton-threatened-smeared-or-amanda-prestigiacomo)). Nothing in that link rises to the level of “viciously attack.” If you think that calling someone a “bimbo” one time is a “vicious attack” then you are such a delicate snowflake that you probably shouldn’t leave your home. Or read anything on the internet. Ever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=110)