# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1090
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21785 "2018-06-19T18:45:43Z")
Official Russian media: “Trump is ours” [Russia State Media Declares: 'Trump Is Ours!'](http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-belongs-russia-moscows-state-run-media-declares-980774)? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21786 "2018-06-19T20:43:16Z")
So, they’ll come and get him? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21787 "2018-06-19T20:44:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, they’ll come and get him? I’m willing to pay for delivery. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21788 "2018-06-19T20:48:12Z")
The State Department thought today would be the perfect day to do a live Q&A on “traveling with kids”. It didn’t go they way they expected. > **[State Department trolled over 'traveling with kids' tips amid family...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-department-trolled-traveling-kids-tips-amid-family/story?id=56007234)** > > The State Department is trolled over the timing of an information Facebook live session offering parents advice on traveling with children, amid family separation uproar. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21789 "2018-06-19T22:19:04Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [The US is about to leave the UN’s Human Rights Council](https://apnews.com/c7037593a84a43f799282a94fca0a957/When,-not-if:-US-poised-to-quit-UN's-human-rights-council)! Oh yeah, this’ll do wonders for our ability to claim the moral high ground. :rolleyes:Sesriously: we are a horse’s ass of a country right now. […and we’re out.](https://apnews.com/9c5b1005f064474f9a0825ab84a16e91/Trump-administration-pulls-US-out-of-UN-human-rights-council) > [@US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley](#): > > We take this step because our commitment does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organization that makes a mockery of human rights. > [@](#): > > Haley has been the driving force behind withdrawing from the human rights body, unprecedented in the 12-year history of the council. No country has ever dropped out voluntarily. Libya was kicked out seven years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21790 "2018-06-19T22:38:49Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley](#): > > > > We take this step because our commitment does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organization that makes a mockery of human rights. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you Republicans keeping immigrant children in cages, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21791 "2018-06-19T22:45:03Z")
Meanwhile, the director of ICE, without a trace of irony, tells Fox News that [it’s unfair to compare ICE to Nazis, because they’re just following orders.](https://thinkprogress.org/tom-homan-jeff-sessions-nazi-comparisons-nuremberg-defense-165249b9eb33-44e3856468c3-3b59877b1758/) :smack: ---
**Author:** ![FavreCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a698b9/32.png) [@FavreCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FavreCo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21792 "2018-06-19T23:49:23Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hello fucking imbecile moron, do you know that Trump is not claiming this policy as his own? Because he’s weak, he’s claiming that he has no choice. Let it sink in. If you believe the lying cheater, he’s just doing what the previous guys said he should do. Now who do you believe, dumfuck? 😃 You are such a loser. He’s won at every topic and you are on the other side as a 100% total loser. he doesn’t give a shit about your side or the R’s either. By the way, your side has ZERO wins since Trump has been in office. I can see why your blood pressure has your face the color of a beet. Get back to goose stepping behind whatever clown you trot out in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21793 "2018-06-19T23:52:59Z")
> [@FavreCo](#): > > 😃 You are such a loser. He’s won at every topic and you are on the other side as a 100% total loser. he doesn’t give a shit about your side or the R’s either. By the way, your side has ZERO wins since Trump has been in office. I can see why your blood pressure has your face the color of a beet. Get back to goose stepping behind whatever clown you trot out in 2020. You really should be wary about Poe’s law - your attempt at extreme parody just makes you sound like an extreme idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21794 "2018-06-20T00:02:03Z")
> [@FavreCo](#): > > By the way, your side has ZERO wins since Trump has been in office. My side is “America”, so I’ll concede that you’re correct on that point. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21795 "2018-06-20T00:17:00Z")
> [@FavreCo](#): > > 😃 You are such a loser. He’s won at every topic and you are on the other side as a 100% total loser. Well I hope that you will find cites where the support of Trump helped win the senate seat for a pervert like him, Roy Moore. Not gonna find it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21796 "2018-06-20T00:28:23Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [The latest](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-moon/trump-orders-creation-of-us-force-to-dominate-space-idUSKBN1JE249) from World Dictator Don: > “It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space,” > > … > “We are going to have the Air Force and we’re going to have the ‘Space Force.’ Separate but equal. It is going to be something. So important,” The one big question is WHY? :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21797 "2018-06-20T00:29:35Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The Trump Rip-Children-From-Their-Mother’s-Arms Policy was the brainchild of Stephen Miller and implemented by Jeff Sessions. But everybody hates it. It’s universally condemned by everyone who doesn’t owe their job to Trump (silence from Congressional Republicans, of course). > > So how does Trump defend his policy? By stating that he hates it too, but blames it on the Democrats. > > This is just to confirm what we already know: not only is he an evil, lying bastard, but he’s a gutless coward, too. The fat orange fuck is probably using those children as hostages, to get his fucking wall. Oh, and also because he is a bigoted nazi bastard. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21798 "2018-06-20T00:33:18Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m not sure that’s the psychology, here. > > I’ve spoken with Trump supporters. I’ve been reluctant to bring this up, as I didn’t want to be accused of doing the I’m-Not-Saying-It-They-Are bit; but what the hell. > > Their POV: we’re at _war_. There are, if you will, _bad hombres_ who want to come across our border and Do Bad Things. And there are some folks here who want to wave those enemies of America in. And there are some folks here who don’t. > > Now, I know you don’t believe that. But grant, for (a) the sake of argument, and for (b) just one moment, that _they_ believe that. And then ask whether that’d explain all that’s happened so far: they didn’t care when he yammered about crowd size; they’d give him a pass if he said “shithole”; you name it, it’s to be overlooked because the alternative is horrifying — and, if him doing that irks those who’d aid America’s enemies? Well, those people would aid America’s enemies, so that’s just bonus points right there. > > And if that’s so, then _why would his supporters care_ about the size of his hands, or his sensitivity about that? Or about Ivy League credentials, or lack thereof? Or about him scrapping the visit of a sports team? He’s trying to keep the enemies of America _out,_ while other folks want to let them _in,_ and _ain’t the rest trivia?_ The enemies are already here. They were born here. “… very fine people …” Sieg heil. Blood and soil. Etc etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21799 "2018-06-20T00:33:21Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The one big question is WHY? I’m gonna say he saw some of that fan-art of himself as the Emperor from WH40K. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21800 "2018-06-20T00:35:28Z")
> [@FavreCo](#): > > 😃 You are such a loser. He’s won at every topic and you are on the other side as a 100% total loser. he doesn’t give a shit about your side or the R’s either. By the way, your side has ZERO wins since Trump has been in office. I can see why your blood pressure has your face the color of a beet. Get back to goose stepping behind whatever clown you trot out in 2020. You’re not on Trump’s side. He’s not taking care of anyone except himself. He’s laughing at suckers like you. So we didn’t win. But you didn’t win either. Trump won. But at least, we understand what happened. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21801 "2018-06-20T00:38:25Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The fat orange fuck is probably using those children as hostages, to get his fucking wall. Oh, and also because he is a bigoted nazi bastard. That’s right. The Dems are to be blamed for not coming to the table to work out a deal. > **[Donald Trump Escalates Democrat-Blaming For His Border Baby Snatch Policy](https://deadline.com/2018/06/donald-trump-baby-snatch-border-immigration-policy-blames-democrats-1202412444/)** > > In speech to National Space Council, President Donald Trump continues to blame Democrats for his border baby snatch immigration policy. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21802 "2018-06-20T00:40:33Z")
Saying that some people will "infest our country " probably sounded better in the original German. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21803 "2018-06-20T00:48:25Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > [Bible Stories with Jeff Sessions.](https://boingboing.net/2018/06/19/bible-stories-with-u-s-attor.html) ## He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” ~ Matthew 18:2-6 ## “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven. ~ Matthew 18:10 ## He took a little child whom he placed among them. Taking the child in his arms, he said to them, “Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.” ~ Mark 9:36-37 ## Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! ~ Isaiah 5:20 In short, fuck that white hood wearing racist bastard General Jeff Beauregard Sessions. May he rot in hell for all eternity. Because of folks like him I sincerely hope there IS a hell. Esquire Magazine: > [@](#): > > Reverend Dave Wright and more than 600 other clergy and lay members of the Methodist Church issued a formal complaint Monday against Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a fellow church member. They charge that the “zero-tolerance” policy he has enacted for immigration violations, which has led to the separations of families at the border, constitutes child abuse. > > “He is embodying things that so many of us find abhorrent,” Wright, chief author of the complaint letter, told Esquire by phone on Tuesday. “His policies and his leadership are harming children, families, immigrants, refugees, and are so antithetical to everything that is at the heart, of my understanding, of the tradition of our social Methodist values.” … > The final complaint letter specifically addresses Sessions, a member of the Methodist church, and not President Trump. It claims his policy, which has resulted in the separation of thousands of children from their parents, violates the Book of Discipline, including child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination, and “dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church.” > > “When I saw the language about child abuse as a chargeable complaint in our Discipline, I knew that’s what is happening here [on the U.S. border],” says Wright. “The combination of [his] power and actions at the border have been concerning for ages, but to me it hadn’t risen to that level of massive trauma yet.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21804 "2018-06-20T00:52:28Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > That’s right. The Dems are to be blamed for not coming to the table to work out a deal. > [Donald Trump Escalates Democrat-Blaming For His Border Baby Snatch Policy](https://deadline.com/2018/06/donald-trump-baby-snatch-border-immigration-policy-blames-democrats-1202412444/) No Deal!!! He wants to use these kids as hostages for his wall and maybe even worse things he dreams up. Don’t give him SHIT. Make this the albatross around his neck. Do not give one inch. Make him and his fascist fanboys choke on this. No deal. Ever. He never honored a deal in his life anyway. Fuck his “deal”. He did this. Him and Sessions and Miller. No one else. No fucking deal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1089) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1091)