# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21845 "2018-06-20T15:00:17Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I hope the kitchen was made aware of who they were serving. I’m thinking she might be better off staying out of _any_ restaurants.
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> But seriously, how fucking dumb do you have to be to go out for Mexican food under the circumstances. Either that or she’s got a spit consumption fetish.

This may be a copy of her receipts.  
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df7_3dQWsAAgPET?format=jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df7_3dQWsAAgPET?format=jpg)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21846 "2018-06-20T15:07:59Z")

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The [Dignity of the Office](https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1009436388276817920)[tm]:

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> @IanBremmer describes exchange between Chancellor Merkel and Pres. Trump at #G7 summit: “He stood up, he put his hand in his pocket… and he took two Starbursts candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, ‘Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything.’”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21847 "2018-06-20T15:28:29Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Also liberals probably would have paid thousands of people to heckle.

There would certainly be no need to pay. With the US’s current standing in world opinion, millions (probably billions) of people would be happy to do it for free.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21848 "2018-06-20T15:32:31Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> There would certainly be no need to pay. With the US’s current standing in world opinion, millions (probably billions) of people would be happy to do it for free.

Pretty sure that was a riff on the conservative belief that those separated kids on TV are liberal-funded actors. I wouldn’t read anything else into it unless **Mijin** is a known Trumpeteer.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21849 "2018-06-20T15:34:43Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> When you put monsters into power, you get monstrous behavior. Something like this or worse was _inevitable_ the moment America decided to hand the government over to Trump and the Republicans.

Aye.

I spent the last hour writing emails and making phone calls to my Congresspeople and to the Nevada Governors office _demanding_, not asking, that they work to stop this and stop it now.

If I knew where a facility was in the Las Vegas area, I’d be outside with a picket sign right now. IMO Americans who care should stop head over to these places and demand some accountability.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21850 "2018-06-20T15:37:43Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> If you have a doable idea for more effective action, we’re all ears over here. 😛

Find out where these places are and start holding people accountable for their actions.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21851 "2018-06-20T15:41:45Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> If I knew where a facility was in the Las Vegas area, I’d be outside with a picket sign right now.

Trump International Hotel.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21852 "2018-06-20T15:44:14Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Aye.
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> I spent the last hour writing emails and making phone calls to my Congresspeople and to the Nevada Governors office _demanding_, not asking, that they work to stop this and stop it now.
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> If I knew where a facility was in the Las Vegas area, I’d be outside with a picket sign right now. IMO Americans who care should stop head over to these places and demand some accountability.

I’ve called my representative and one of my senators this morning (both their DC and local offices), and given a decent chunk of money to the Democrats. I hope this doesn’t run afoul of board rules, but [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) is organizing protests across the country for Saturday, June 30 ([Families Belong Together—Attend a June 30 Event! | MoveOn.org](https://act.moveon.org/event/families-belong-together/search/?)). I wish they were sooner, like today. But I’m signed up to go whenever they are.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21853 "2018-06-20T15:57:33Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’ve called my representative and one of my senators this morning (both their DC and local offices), and given a decent chunk of money to the Democrats. I hope this doesn’t run afoul of board rules, but [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) is organizing protests across the country for Saturday, June 30 ([Families Belong Together—Attend a June 30 Event! | MoveOn.org](https://act.moveon.org/event/families-belong-together/search/?)). I wish they were sooner, like today. But I’m signed up to go whenever they are.

Thanks. I signed up for the Las Vegas rally.

What’s happening is _wrong_ folks, and it’s being done with our money and in our names.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21854 "2018-06-20T15:58:02Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Pretty sure that was a riff on the conservative belief that those separated kids on TV are liberal-funded actors. I wouldn’t read anything else into it unless **Mijin** is a known Trumpeteer.

Right; this joke-telling lark is still challenging for me.

I was riffing on 1) conservatives’ dismissals of the kneeling NFL players being against soldiers, the flag, and I guess, Jesus and 2) the repeated, nonsensical, accusation of “liberals” using paid protesters and “crisis actors”.  
Cos’ no-one could possibly have any beef with policy.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21855 "2018-06-20T16:05:43Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’ve called my representative and one of my senators this morning (both their DC and local offices), and given a decent chunk of money to the Democrats. I hope this doesn’t run afoul of board rules, but [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) is organizing protests across the country for Saturday, June 30 ([Families Belong Together—Attend a June 30 Event! | MoveOn.org](https://act.moveon.org/event/families-belong-together/search/?)). I wish they were sooner, like today. But I’m signed up to go whenever they are.

I sent the mods a note to see if it’s ok to start a thread on this. If it’s allowed, I will do so. There’s a rally in my town. I’m taking the family.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21856 "2018-06-20T16:22:38Z")

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Oh, good, postponing the congressional picnic. The optics weren’t good.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21857 "2018-06-20T16:23:43Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Thanks. I signed up for the Las Vegas rally.
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> What’s happening is _wrong_ folks, and it’s being done with our money and in our names.

Thanks.

I have a seven year old boy and four year old girl. And for the past several days, I just keep imagining men with guns taking them away without telling me where they’re going or when – of if – I will ever see them again. I dropped my son off at camp today and almost burst into tears.

And 1/3 of Americans think this is OK. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21858 "2018-06-20T16:26:33Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I sent the mods a note to see if it’s ok to start a thread on this. If it’s allowed, I will do so. There’s a rally in my town. I’m taking the family.

Many thanks!

I’m actually not taking my family with me, because I’m afraid it will turn violent. ☹ If some of Trump’s “very fine people” run a car through the crowd, at least my wife and kids will be safe at home.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21859 "2018-06-20T16:53:25Z")

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[Trump to keep families together by executive order.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/trump-separation-action-immigration/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results)

If you want to think of this as Trump Caves; Trump Folds Like a Cheap Lawn Chair; Trump Backtracks and Admits It Was His Policy All Along; Trump Made to Look Like a Weak Sniveling Coward – well, that’s just fine with me.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21860 "2018-06-20T17:07:42Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I think of it as being akin to the serial killer telling the police, “It’s your fault because you didn’t stop me. You knew I was out there cutting people into bits, but you let me do it. This is on you!”

A child-killing pedo once explained his actions along those lines. He said he loves children and wants to show them how much he cares. But society has twisted his love into something vile and illegal, and if brainwashed people knew about it he would be in grave danger. Therefore he has to make sure that those sweet, sweet children will never tell anybody about the love they received.  
Some people just have no conscience.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21861 "2018-06-20T17:11:44Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> If you want to think of this as Trump Caves; Trump Folds Like a Cheap Lawn Chair; Trump Backtracks and Admits It Was His Policy All Along; Trump Made to Look Like a Weak Sniveling Coward – well, that’s just fine with me.

1. There is no mention of what this purported EO will do.
2. Nothing will happen until it happens.
3. _Executive Orders?_ Fill in your own comment on hypocrisy and ignorance.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21862 "2018-06-20T17:27:34Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> 1. There is no mention of what this purported EO will do.
> 2. Nothing will happen until it happens.
> 3. _Executive Orders?_ Fill in your own comment on hypocrisy and ignorance.

Either his EO fixes the problem, which is good and also exposes Trumpian lies and hypocrisy; or it doesn’t fix the problem, which means: Trump still has a problem.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21863 "2018-06-20T17:32:56Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> 1. There is no mention of what this purported EO will do.
> 2. Nothing will happen until it happens.
> 3. _Executive Orders?_ Fill in your own comment on hypocrisy and ignorance.

1. About those kids already detained and traumatized?

No doubt this EO will somehow try to blame democrats.

About the canceled picnic - If I was a Republican congressman, the LAST place I would want to be is out in a park in the daylight. The optics are perhaps just a bit _too_ good.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21864 "2018-06-20T17:43:19Z")

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The damage is already done. There are already kids separated from parents who will never see each other again.

I’m not a religious person, but I know pure evil when I see it. This “administration” personifies it. There is no decency in anything they do or have ever done. The demise of this clusterfuck can’t come soon enough.

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