# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lesh17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@lesh17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lesh17)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21885 "2018-06-20T20:51:32Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Don’t see how this is gonna help him at all. 1) He’s exposed himself to be a fucking monster even to people who otherwise defended him for things like sexual assault. And 2) He’s exposed himself as weak to his deplorable supporters who actually applauded his inhumanity toward the brown migrants. This could be the biggest clusterfuck of the entire clusterfuck this guy has clusterfucked.

At least until the next one!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21886 "2018-06-20T21:35:29Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> [Trump to keep families together by executive order.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/trump-separation-action-immigration/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results)
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> If you want to think of this as Trump Caves; Trump Folds Like a Cheap Lawn Chair; Trump Backtracks and Admits It Was His Policy All Along; Trump Made to Look Like a Weak Sniveling Coward – well, that’s just fine with me.

He will pretend he saw a terrible situation and fixed it (never mind he caused it to begin with). And the Nazi scumbags that support him will spread the new lie.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21887 "2018-06-20T21:41:48Z")

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Michael Cohen resigned from an RNC fundraising post.

> **[Michael Cohen resigns from RNC committee post, sources say](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406)**

Wait, what? How the fuck does the RNC keep someone on in such a position after they’ve landed themselves in such deep doo-doo?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21888 "2018-06-20T21:44:06Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Michael Cohen resigned from an RNC fundraising post.
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> [Michael Cohen resigns from RNC committee post, sources say - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406)
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> Wait, what? How the fuck does the RNC keep someone on in such a position after they’ve landed themselves in such deep doo-doo?

Elliott Broidy, who was also a deputy finance chair for the RNC until his resignation in April, ALSO used Cohen as a go-between to pay off a woman he had an affair with. Interesting, huh?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21889 "2018-06-20T22:25:38Z")

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So, Cohen is the Hooker Whisperer? A rare talent I suppose, worth a lot to the right people. Only the best people…

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21890 "2018-06-20T22:45:18Z")

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Diplomatic relations at their best. Ian Bremmer of the Eurasia Group [reports](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393311-ian-bremmer-trump-tossed-candy-to-merkel-during-g-7-said-dont) an amazing G-7 exchange on CBS This Morning.

> [@Ian Bremmer](#):
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> “Trump was sitting there with his arms crossed, clearly not liking the fact that they were ganging up on him,” Bremmer said to the news outlet. “He eventually agreed and said OK, he’ll sign it. And at that point, he stood up, put his hand in his pocket, his suit jacket pocket, and he took two Starburst candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, ‘Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything.’ ”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21891 "2018-06-20T22:49:00Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Diplomatic relations at their best.

[You’re a bit late with that.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21034584&postcount=21841) 😉

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21892 "2018-06-20T23:28:50Z")

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Trump administration to propose merging the Departments of Education and Labor. I don’t know what to make of that. Seems totally out of left field. Has this been some right wing goal I was unaware of, or is it just Trump’s own scheme to weaken both departments?

> **[White House to Propose Merging Education, Labor Departments](https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148)**
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> The White House plans to propose merging the Departments of Labor and Education as part of a broader reorganization of the federal government, according to a person with knowledge of the proposal.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21893 "2018-06-20T23:31:20Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Trump administration to propose merging the Departments of Education and Labor. I don’t know what to make of that. Seems totally out of left field. Has this been some right wing goal I was unaware of, or is it just Trump’s own scheme to weaken both departments?
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> [https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148](https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148)

It’s to teach the kids how to do manual labor.

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**Author:** ![FavreCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a698b9/32.png) [@FavreCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FavreCo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21894 "2018-06-20T23:55:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You’re not on Trump’s side. He’s not taking care of anyone except himself. He’s laughing at suckers like you.
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> So we didn’t win. But you didn’t win either. Trump won. But at least, we understand what happened.

I’m fucking winning big. My bank account has exploded since he became president. Another 0.76% added to my bank account. You didn’t win because you are poor. We don’t care about you.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21895 "2018-06-21T00:01:08Z")

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Trolls abound…

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21896 "2018-06-21T00:01:52Z")

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Well, _that’s_ a sort of honesty you don’t see every day…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21897 "2018-06-21T00:05:02Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> I’m fucking winning big. My bank account has exploded since he became president. Another 0.76% added to my bank account. You didn’t win because you are poor. We don’t care about you.

I’m honestly not calling you out on this – if that’s your justification for supporting Trump, I get it. At least there’s logic behind the opinion.

My only quibble - if you can call it that - is that this confirms what I have suspected all along about Trump and his most ardent supporters. I refer to a post I made in the weeks leading up to Trump’s victory, in which I described Trumpian capitalism.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19670048&postcount=49](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19670048&postcount=49)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21898 "2018-06-21T00:05:48Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Well, _that’s_ a sort of honesty you don’t see every day…

Yes, someone who thinks \*0.76% increase \*is an explosion of dramatic proportions.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21899 "2018-06-21T00:08:41Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Well, _that’s_ a sort of honesty you don’t see every day…

I don’t know if I like his opinion, but I appreciate his integrity in posting.

I think he’s telling the truth. I’ve always maintained that voters vote out of self-interest. Different voters view self-interest differently. Republicans emphasize ‘self’, whereas progressives believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. But it’s self-interest either way.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21900 "2018-06-21T00:31:48Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> I’m fucking winning big. My bank account has exploded since he became president. Another 0.76% added to my bank account. You didn’t win because you are poor. We don’t care about you.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Yes, someone who thinks \*0.76% increase \*is an explosion of dramatic proportions.

I know! 😃 I laughed at that. Clearly this dude wasn’t alive in the days of Jimmy Carter double digit inflation, when a bank account of $100,000 could generate $10K to $12K income per year. Of course, mortgage interest was out of sight, too, but you can’t have everything. [Dan Aykroyd did a great Carter sketch on SNL with the theme (said in a Southern drawl), “Inflation Is Our Friend.”](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/jimmy-carter-on-inflation-cold-open/3007609)

\*\*FavreCo \*\*must be joking. There’s no one who’s naive enough to think that a return of less than one percent is anything to get excited about.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21901 "2018-06-21T00:43:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s executive order misspelled “Separation”.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1009529103207280640)

Nice try on their part, but it’s going to take more than that to convince me that Trump was directly involved.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21902 "2018-06-21T00:52:11Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Trump administration to propose merging the Departments of Education and Labor. I don’t know what to make of that. Seems totally out of left field. Has this been some right wing goal I was unaware of, or is it just Trump’s own scheme to weaken both departments?
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> [https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148](https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148)

Eliminate the department of education, which has been a long-standing goal of Republicans and conservatives. DeVos was brought in to destroy the Dept of Education. Just as Scott Pruitt was brought in to destroy EPA. Just as Ben Carson was brought in to destroy HUD. But not before they enrich themselves on your taxpayer dime first!

Trump is a wrecking ball. He’s wrecking order, both internationally and domestically.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21903 "2018-06-21T00:53:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pompeo actually has the \*cojones \*to issue a proclamation in honor of World Refugee Day.

_[Through](https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/vbq839/mike-pompeo-praises-us-on-world-refugee-day-as-government-detains-children) active humanitarian diplomacy, humanitarian assistance, and tireless efforts to end conflicts and achieve durable solutions for persecuted people around the world, we will continue to help the world’s most vulnerable refugees, reflecting the deeply held values of the American people_

So when the fuck do we start with the STFUOWWGMOYA? So far, we are just letting shit like this pass. There is nowhere near enough teddy bear [cholla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylindropuntia_bigelovii) to deal with these asses.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21904 "2018-06-21T00:55:09Z")

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Heed the warnings from the man who is living in exile from Vladimir Putin.

> [@](#):
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> It doesn’t have to be the result of a deep strategy to be both willful and effective. It’s instinct. Autocrats are wired differently & are endlessly capable of shocking normal people – Garry Kasparov, former chess champion and Russian dissident and exile

It’s worth repeating: **Vladimir Putin has as much influence on this administration as our Secretary of State, our Secretary of Defense, and our Secretary of pretty much anything.** Do you all not understand this? Do you all not understand how extraordinary this moment in American history is? Do you all not understand how close to destruction American democracy is?

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