# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1096
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21905 "2018-06-21T01:45:05Z")
> [@FavreCo](#): > > I’m fucking winning big. My bank account has exploded since he became president. Another 0.76% added to my bank account. You didn’t win because you are poor. We don’t care about you. So what’s that now? Almost $12 in the savings account mommy made for you. What a good boy. Yes you are! ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21906 "2018-06-21T02:05:08Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > So not at all what the Trump administration is doing. …it probably needs its own pit thread, but what Australia has done to their asylum seekers is, IMHO, objectively much worse than anything Trump has done (yet). Widespread censorship. Coverups. Yes, families have been separated. Plenty have suffered and died. What successive governments have done is shameful. kambuckta most certainly knows what is going on down under and the comparison is on target. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21907 "2018-06-21T02:12:58Z")
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21908 "2018-06-21T02:42:34Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [You’re a bit late with that.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21034584&postcount=21841) 😉 I knew I should have had another cup of coffee 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21909 "2018-06-21T04:37:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Do you all not understand how close to destruction American democracy is? American democracy was destroyed the moment Trump and the Republicans took power. All hope for the future died at that moment. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21910 "2018-06-21T05:31:53Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > American democracy was destroyed the moment Trump and the Republicans took power. All hope for the future died at that moment. Heck, all hope for the _present_ died at that moment. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21911 "2018-06-21T06:52:46Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …it probably needs its own pit thread, but what Australia has done to their asylum seekers is, IMHO, objectively much worse than anything Trump has done (yet). Widespread censorship. Coverups. Yes, families have been separated. Plenty have suffered and died. What successive governments have done is shameful. kambuckta most certainly knows what is going on down under and the comparison is on target. It absolutely is. No argument from me. And the worst thing about it, IMO, is that it has actually been effective in what it was meant to do (which is of course mostly ‘get politicians re-elected’, but some other stuff too) Essentially, because ‘lock up refugees’ is bipartisan policy (the Labor govt of the '90s started it, though I don’t know if they really knew what they were getting themselves into) there’s no changing it. The only major-\*ish \*party that’s consistently against it is the Greens, and they never get more than 10% of the vote. People have been marching against this for twenty years … I’ve been on dozens myself, but I’ve kind of lost hope in the last couple of years because it really seems pointless. Nothing ever changes. In Aus, all politicians seem to be in on this Faustian bargain - target White Australia anti-brown-people angst against \*\*\*these \*\*\*people, give the reactionaries someone to target their five-minute hate at, and in return they don’t riot over the general influx of migrants (which is one of the highest in the world). It’s great that public pressure has forced Trump to do something about the child separation policies. But it only worked out this well because he’s an incompetent politician. If he were as smart as John Howard he’d have worked out to lead up to it gradually with a boiling frog trick, and you’d have kids in tents for decades ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21912 "2018-06-21T07:22:27Z")
He’s high right now, he did a rally in Duluth, and they turned out to slather him with adulation. That sort of shit is his heroin and nepenthe cocktail, America is totally behind him, loves him. And once they realize that it was Hillary separating all those kids… ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21913 "2018-06-21T07:53:24Z")
…meanwhile, down in New Zealand, our Prime Minister has just taken six weeks off to have a baby. And its just been born. And its a girl!!! Such pleasant news to divert me from the Bonkers States of America. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21914 "2018-06-21T09:56:16Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …meanwhile, down in New Zealand, our Prime Minister has just taken six weeks off to have a baby. And its just been born. And its a girl!!! Such pleasant news to divert me from the Bonkers States of America. Did they ever find out which cowardly parliamentarian called her a “stupid little girl” and then refused to identify themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21915 "2018-06-21T11:42:17Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Heck, all hope for the _present_ died at that moment. He’s got another couple of years, can Trump manage to retroactively destroy hope in the past? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21916 "2018-06-21T11:59:30Z")
[Donald Trump wants credit for ending a crisis he created.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/donald-trump-wants-credit-for-ending-a-family-separation-crisis-he-created.html) (My emphasis) > [@](#): > > President Trump created the child-separation crisis when he imposed a “zero tolerance” policy for border crossings. > … > > Now, Trump wants credit for ending the crisis he created, calling an executive order he signed on Wednesday “very compassionate.” But the order neither ends the crisis nor produces a more humane status quo. It’s a public relations stunt, meant to dampen criticism without changing the fundamentals of the policy. “Zero tolerance” is still in effect, and Trump’s manufactured crisis may well get worse. > … There’s a name for this disorder (although it usually applies to parent/caregiver and the cared-for, I think it fits here): > [@](#): > > **[Factitious disorder imposed on another (FDIA or FDIoA), also known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_another)**, is a condition where a caregiver or spouse fabricates, exaggerates, or induces mental or physical health problems in those who are in their care, with the primary motive of gaining attention or sympathy from others… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21917 "2018-06-21T12:17:19Z")
> [@](#): > > President Trump mocked the elite class during a campaign rally in Duluth, Minnesota, on Wednesday, saying he was smarter and has a better apartment than they do. > > “Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do,” Trump told rallygoers. > > “I’m smarter than they are. I became president and they didn’t. And I’m representing the best people on earth, the deplorables,” he continued, referring to the term his former opponent, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, once used to describe his supporters during the 2016 campaign. > [Cite](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393387-trump-mocks-elites-at-campaign-rally). A better apartment? _\_ Anyway, we’ve already had proof that you don’t need to be smart to be elected President. He’s just the confirmation of that. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21918 "2018-06-21T13:37:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know! 😃 I laughed at that. Clearly this dude wasn’t alive in the days of Jimmy Carter double digit inflation, when a bank account of $100,000 could generate $10K to $12K income per year. Of course, mortgage interest was out of sight, too, but you can’t have everything. [Dan Aykroyd did a great Carter sketch on SNL with the theme (said in a Southern drawl), “Inflation Is Our Friend.”](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/jimmy-carter-on-inflation-cold-open/3007609) > > \*\*FavreCo \*\*must be joking. There’s no one who’s naive enough to think that a return of less than one percent is anything to get excited about. Not to mention that if you were invested in the stock market during Obama’s terms and you _weren’t_ making money hand over fist, you may have been the stupidest investor of all time. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21919 "2018-06-21T14:13:02Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Michael Cohen resigned from an RNC fundraising post. > > [Michael Cohen resigns from RNC committee post, sources say - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406) > > Wait, what? How the fuck does the RNC keep someone on in such a position after they’ve landed themselves in such deep doo-doo? Probably because his checkered past counts as prime qualifications for RNC fundraising. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21920 "2018-06-21T14:21:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \*\*FavreCo \*\*must be joking. There’s no one who’s naive enough to think that a return of less than one percent is anything to get excited about. There are those who think Obama destroyed the economy, and the stock market is only now beginning to recover from its heavy losses during his term (when the Dow tripled, btw). Yes, there are people naive enough to believe Fox/Breitbart/etc. nonsense like that, and our new friend appears to be one of them. Don’t expect him to last long, though, not after he finds he’s being paid in rubles. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21921 "2018-06-21T14:47:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > A better apartment? _\_. Yeah, you know, that white dump which didn’t use to have enough gilded toilets. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21922 "2018-06-21T14:48:53Z")
What can you expect from public housing? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21923 "2018-06-21T14:57:58Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > Not to mention that if you were invested in the stock market during Obama’s terms and you _weren’t_ making money hand over fist, you may have been the stupidest investor of all time. But you don’t know the time frame for his 0.76% return - if weekly, that looks to be 48% annual, and even monthly it’s 9%. One hopes he isn’t reporting a daily increase . . . Not that he’s not an idiot, of course. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21924 "2018-06-21T15:08:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > A better apartment? _\_ Anyway, we’ve already had proof that you don’t need to be smart to be elected President. He’s just the confirmation of that. And how do you possibly define “elite” in a way that doesn’t include Trump? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1095) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1097)