# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1097
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21925 "2018-06-21T15:18:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know! šŸ˜ƒ I laughed at that. Clearly this dude wasnā€™t alive in the days of Jimmy Carter double digit inflation, when a bank account of $100,000 could generate $10K to $12K income per year. Of course, mortgage interest was out of sight, too, but you canā€™t have everything. [Dan Aykroyd did a great Carter sketch on SNL with the theme (said in a Southern drawl), ā€œInflation Is Our Friend.ā€](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/jimmy-carter-on-inflation-cold-open/3007609) It actually occurred to me that as far as Trump is concerned hyperinflation might be the best thing for the economy. The trade deficit would plummet since no Americans could afford fore gin goods, the stock market would sky rocket which is what he always points to in his speeches, and on a personal level (which is obviously the most important measure) the debt that is holding him down would go poof and he would finally be able to legitimatize his claims of being a billionaire. In fact that could be his slogan ā€œMake every American a Billionaireā€ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21926 "2018-06-21T15:38:19Z")
Trumpelthinskin, for whom every day is Festivus day: > [@](#): > > [Trump airs his grievances and demands more credit ā€“ for just about everything](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-airs-his-grievances-and-demands-more-credit--for-just-about-everything/2018/06/20/f05df018-749f-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html) > > President Trump feels wrongedā€¦ > > Trump said he felt wronged that he was not given more credit for his historic meeting last week in Singapore with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. > > Wronged that his administrationā€™s move to separate migrant children from their parents at the border garnered round-the-clock news coverage. > > Wronged that the media is not instead focused on this weekā€™s congressional hearings over a Department of Justice inspector general report, and wronged that the report backed up the FBIā€™s decision not to charge Hillary Clinton with crimes. > > Wronged that he has to share some of the credit for the good economy with his predecessor, President Barack Obama. > > Wronged that the media does not focus enough attention on the size of his crowds. > > Wronged that a handful of protesters interrupted his rally speech. > > And wronged that, after defying the predictions of political experts to become elected president as a populist hero, he still is not considered part of the nationā€™s eliteā€¦ [_Womp wompā€¦_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IxaNAYyqY) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21927 "2018-06-21T15:39:03Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And how do you possibly define ā€œeliteā€ in a way that doesnā€™t include Trump? Intellectual Elite. Liberal Elite. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21928 "2018-06-21T15:57:11Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Intellectual Elite. Liberal Elite. Moral Elite. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21929 "2018-06-21T16:00:45Z")
You canā€™t buy class, Donny. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21930 "2018-06-21T17:00:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > There are those who think Obama destroyed the economy, and the stock market is only now beginning to recover from its heavy losses during his term (when the Dow tripled, btw). > > Yes, there are people naive enough to believe Fox/Breitbart/etc. nonsense like that, and our new friend appears to be one of them. Donā€™t expect him to last long, though, not after he finds heā€™s being paid in rubles. Average Job Creation per Month, since the Great Recession ended (source: Bureau of Labor Statistics) 2010 87.8 2011 174.2 2012 179.3 2013 191.8 2014 250.4 2015 226.0 2016 195.3 2017 182.3 2018 207.4 So much for ā€œTrump is better at creating jobs than Obama!ā€ And the Dow is about exactly where it was 6 months ago. So if FavreCo is making money, heā€™s doing it on a printing press in his basement. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21931 "2018-06-21T18:01:43Z")
Trump is sending military lawyers to the border to prosecute immigration cases. JAGs are not trained in immigration law and have no background in prosecuting such cases. > ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21932 "2018-06-21T18:13:28Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And the Dow is about exactly where it was 6 months ago. > > So if FavreCo is making money, heā€™s doing it on a printing press in his basement. FWIW, Iā€™m having a dynamite 2018 in my investments, but thatā€™s because things like NFLX and AMZN are on a tear, which is nought to do with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21933 "2018-06-21T19:00:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > So if FavreCo is making money, heā€™s doing it on a printing press in his basement. Maybe heā€™s got stock in juvenile detention centers. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21934 "2018-06-21T19:12:27Z")
As someone acquainted with FavreCo from another board, let me assure anyone who might be in doubt that his sole reason for participating on message boards is to drag anyone he can down into the name-calling mud with him. He loves it down there, the texture, the smell, the taste of those little troll-turds stuck in his teeth. Heā€™ll wallow down there as long as libruls deign to crawl down there and rassle with him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21935 "2018-06-21T19:13:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Average Job Creation per Month, since the Great Recession ended (source: Bureau of Labor Statistics) > > 2010 87.8 > 2011 174.2 > 2012 179.3 > 2013 191.8 > 2014 250.4 > 2015 226.0 > 2016 195.3 > 2017 182.3 > 2018 207.4 > > So much for ā€œTrump is better at creating jobs than Obama!ā€ > > And the Dow is about exactly where it was 6 months ago. > > So if FavreCo is making money, heā€™s doing it on a printing press in his basement. I suspect that he will find your facts unconvincing. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21936 "2018-06-21T19:14:18Z")
Gated communities and for-profit prisons, for those who are not burdened with scruple. I would, but I have to shave. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21937 "2018-06-21T19:17:35Z")
Melania delivered a strong message to the victims of her husbandā€™s cruelty. A message of not giving a shit. > **[Melania Trump flew to Texas to visit immigrant children wearing a jacket that...](https://www.businessinsider.com/melania-jacket-i-really-dont-care-texas-immigrant-visit-2018-6?r=UK&IR=T)** > > First lady Melania Trump wore a green military jacket that says "I really don't care, do u?" on her surprise visit to Texas to visit immigrant children on Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21938 "2018-06-21T19:21:40Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > As someone acquainted with FavreCo from another board, let me assure anyone who might be in doubt that his sole reason for participating on message boards is to drag anyone he can down into the name-calling mud with him. He loves it down there, the texture, the smell, the taste of those little troll-turds stuck in his teeth. Heā€™ll wallow down there as long as libruls deign to crawl down there and rassle with him. Good for you for staying above the fray. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21939 "2018-06-21T19:22:08Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > FWIW, Iā€™m having a dynamite 2018 in my investments, but thatā€™s because things like NFLX and AMZN are on a tear, which is nought to do with Trump. If Amazon is doing well, itā€™s in spite of Trumpā€™s best efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21940 "2018-06-21T19:24:34Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Melania delivered a strong message to the victims of her husbandā€™s cruelty. A message of not giving a shit. > [Melania Trump Wears Jacket Saying 'I Really Don't Care' on Texas Visit](http://www.businessinsider.com/melania-jacket-i-really-dont-care-texas-immigrant-visit-2018-6?r=UK&IR=T) My reaction was the same, but [Chris Hayes](https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1009870621650677762) said it better: > [@Chris Hayes on Twitter](#): > > Wait, wait, wait. I just got wifi to work on my flight. This Melania jacket thing cannot be real. Canā€™t. Iā€™m choosing to not believe it. Warning: not the Onion. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21941 "2018-06-21T19:31:40Z")
I seriously had to quadruple check what site I was on when I clicked on that. Had to sit and think for a minute if Business Insider was a parody site. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21942 "2018-06-21T19:33:47Z")
If this wasnā€™t on purpose, it may be the single most tone deaf thing Iā€™ve ever seen. Some have pointed out that this is a 39 dollar jacket. Not her usual price range. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21943 "2018-06-21T19:36:00Z")
When it come to her clothes, the first lady is infamous for [not](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/08/29/there-was-no-pretense-about-melania-trumps-heels-but-sometimes-a-little-pretense-helps/?utm_term=.3bdbc010aadc) [making](https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/04/is-melania-trump-wearing-another-pussy-bow-for-her-white-house-portrait/) the best choices. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21944 "2018-06-21T19:37:08Z")
I know this kind of response is predictable, nonfalsifiable, and unhelpful, but I canā€™t help myself. Imagine that Michelle Obama, on her way to visit the center of a political shitstorm, had worn a jacket that said ā€œI really donā€™t care. Do U?ā€ Just. Fucking. Imagine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1096) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1098)