# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1098
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21945 "2018-06-21T19:44:58Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > My reaction was the same, but [Chris Hayes](https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1009870621650677762) said it better: > > Warning: not the Onion. Y’know some days I really mis guillotines. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21946 "2018-06-21T19:51:02Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If this wasn’t on purpose, it may be the single most tone deaf thing I’ve ever seen. Some have pointed out that this is a 39 dollar jacket. Not her usual price range. Hey, at least she didn’t [hashtag](https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41011528) it. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21947 "2018-06-21T19:55:12Z")
I sincerely believe that we will all (including Business Insider) turn out to have been duped by some photoshopping. Nobody’s that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21948 "2018-06-21T19:56:39Z")
Her rep already confirmed it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21949 "2018-06-21T20:05:06Z")
Every Democrat should be making a jacket that says “I really do care. Don’t you?” And heading to the border. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21950 "2018-06-21T20:07:23Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Her rep already confirmed it. :eek::smack::mad: I stand corrected. Our first lady really _is_ just that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21951 "2018-06-21T20:08:35Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I sincerely believe that we will all (including Business Insider) turn out to have been duped by some photoshopping. Nobody’s that stupid. [![](https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180621145310-melania-trump-jacket---6-exlarge-169.jpg) ](https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180621145310-melania-trump-jacket---6-exlarge-169.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21952 "2018-06-21T20:10:15Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > :eek::smack::mad: > > I stand corrected. Our first lady really _is_ just that stupid. I don’t think it’s stupidity. I think it was a passive-aggressive display of annoyance at being dragged out for a photo op. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21953 "2018-06-21T20:13:39Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > As someone acquainted with FavreCo from another board, let me assure anyone who might be in doubt that his sole reason for participating on message boards is to drag anyone he can down into the name-calling mud with him. He loves it down there, the texture, the smell, the taste of those little troll-turds stuck in his teeth. He’ll wallow down there as long as libruls deign to crawl down there and rassle with him. Don’t worry, we’re just mocking him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21954 "2018-06-21T20:20:32Z")
This is another calculated move. It is obvious strategy, and so far, it has been working. [ul] [li]lower level of discourse (aim below gutter)[/li][li]stun/shock opponents bigly[/li][li]keep them off balance[/li][li]infuriate them[/ul][/li]The master taught me: “_go not angry ever into a fight; find first calm energy, that you shall be awareness, not the flail_”. They are trying to sow chaos into left field, to make easier for them to plow under. The anti-cheetos need to step back, recognize that these people are scum and carefully scrape them off the top and sides of the melting pot, so that proper business can be got back to. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21955 "2018-06-21T20:24:56Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I don’t think it’s stupidity. I think it was a passive-aggressive display of annoyance at being dragged out for a photo op. The sheer incompetence of this administration is mind-boggling. They managed to screw up what should have been an easy win, a feel-good photo op. I imagine that _somebody_ in the White House knows what “good optics” looks like (they weren’t hired because they have the skill, it was just a bonus.) If that someone has any authority they are probably reaming a new one on some poor First Lady’s staffer even as we speak. And it may be a long time before we see Melania off her leash again. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21956 "2018-06-21T20:34:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The sheer incompetence of this administration is mind-boggling. They managed to screw up what should have been an easy win, a feel-good photo op. > > I imagine that _somebody_ in the White House knows what “good optics” looks like (they weren’t hired because they have the skill, it was just a bonus.) If that someone has any authority they are probably reaming a new one on some poor First Lady’s staffer even as we speak. > > And it may be a long time before we see Melania off her leash again. Lost in the whole kerfuffle over the jacket, but how much did the administration spend to send the First Lady a thousand miles to personally look into a situation that the President supposedly fixed yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21957 "2018-06-21T20:35:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He’s high right now, he did a rally in Duluth, and they turned out to slather him with adulation. That sort of shit is his heroin and nepenthe cocktail, America is totally behind him, loves him. And once they realize that it was Hillary separating all those kids… You and I have been to Duluth, bucko. Might as well be in Tierra Del Fuego. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21958 "2018-06-21T20:37:54Z")
That jacket would be in poor taste if it were Cardi B. wearing it to a strippers convention. That a First Lady wore it EVER, ANYWHERE, is bad enough. But that she wore it for a tour of her husband’s growing humanitarian atrocity, I can’t even… Is this a prenup evasion strategy or something? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21959 "2018-06-21T20:38:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Lost in the whole kerfuffle over the jacket, but how much did the administration spend to send the First Lady a thousand miles to personally look into a situation that the President supposedly fixed yesterday? I get where you’re coming from, but in a normal administration I would just chalk this up as the cost of doing business. Part of the job of the president is demonstrating empathy, and that often involves travel purely for symbolic purposes. Of course this president is completely without empathy, which is how we got into this situation, and why he had to outsource the job. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21960 "2018-06-21T20:57:02Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > That jacket would be in poor taste if it were Cardi B. wearing it to a strippers convention. That a First Lady wore it EVER, ANYWHERE, is bad enough. But that she wore it for a tour of her husband’s growing humanitarian atrocity, I can’t even… > Is this a prenup evasion strategy or something? Great comment on an online article: “Because her F U ALL AND GO TO HELL” jacket was at the cleaners." ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21961 "2018-06-21T21:05:35Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You and I have been to Duluth, bucko. Might as well be in Tierra Del Fuego. That wasn’t me, that was George Clooney. Happens all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21962 "2018-06-21T21:16:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I get where you’re coming from, but in a normal administration I would just chalk this up as the cost of doing business. Part of the job of the president is demonstrating empathy, and that often involves travel purely for symbolic purposes. > > Of course this president is completely without empathy, which is how we got into this situation, and why he had to outsource the job. I phrased that poorly. It’s not the money, really, but it represents a “ready, fire, aim!” mentality that makes no sense to me. A normal administration would gather information, and then enact policy based on what they learned. What’s the point in doing it the other way around? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21963 "2018-06-21T21:24:59Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Great comment on an online article: “Because her F U ALL AND GO TO HELL” jacket was at the cleaners." One going around twitter right now: > [@](#): > > @quinncy > I guess they didn’t have the I REALLY, HONESTLY THOUGHT HE’D BE DEAD BY NOW parka in her size. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21964 "2018-06-21T21:33:35Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > :eek::smack::mad: > > I stand corrected. Our first lady really _is_ just that stupid. Stupid or just a really crappy person, like her husband. Or both. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1097) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1099)