# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21965 "2018-06-21T21:35:58Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Melania delivered a strong message to the victims of her husband’s cruelty. A message of not giving a shit.  
> [Melania Trump Wears Jacket Saying 'I Really Don't Care' on Texas Visit](http://www.businessinsider.com/melania-jacket-i-really-dont-care-texas-immigrant-visit-2018-6?r=UK&IR=T)

Jacket or no jacket (who wears a fucking jacket along the border in June?!)…her presence was enough spit in everyone’s eye.

Children want to see their parents; instead, they see the woman who is called our first lady (a woman who violated our immigration laws herself, no less).

This is administration enjoys watching people in pain. They get off on it.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21966 "2018-06-21T21:50:59Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> You and I have been to Duluth, bucko. Might as well be in Tierra Del Fuego.

Having also been to Duluth for a couple of years one afternoon, I can safely say the only real entertainment I could have expected of this speech was for him to be divebombed by a sea gull thinking his hair was a giant woolly caterpillar. Or his limo getting stranded at the top of the drawbridge.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21967 "2018-06-21T21:51:05Z")

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Not only that, but she skipped going to one of the GOP’s concentration camps and, instead, went to a church daycare.

> **[Melania Trump Stages Shelter Photo-Op While Canceling Real Detention Center...](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/21/melania-trump-photo-op-detention-center.html)**
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> Melania Trump visited a church-run shelter and staged a photo-op for the press while canceling the visit to the real detention center.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21968 "2018-06-21T21:52:51Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Having also been to Duluth for a couple of years one afternoon, I can safely say the only real entertainment I could have expected of this speech was for him to be divebombed by a sea gull thinking his hair was a giant woolly caterpillar. Or his limo getting stranded at the top of the drawbridge.

Why, he could go exploring on the beached, rusted ships.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21969 "2018-06-21T21:57:11Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If this wasn’t on purpose, it may be the single most tone deaf thing I’ve ever seen. Some have pointed out that this is a 39 dollar jacket. Not her usual price range.

I’ve come to the conclusion that someone on her husband’s staff hates her stinking guts. I haven’t ruled out that it’s her husband.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21970 "2018-06-21T22:13:27Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> I’ve come to the conclusion that someone on her husband’s staff hates her stinking guts. I haven’t ruled out that it’s her husband.

Yeah, nobody cares/likes her or DJT, or what he’s doing, enough to say “…um… Melania? That’s probably not a good choice.”

I would think at least a half dozen people must have seen it. I mean escorting the FLOTUS to the Airport probably takes 20 people (anybody have any figures on what it takes??)

Either they hate her or are to scared to say something.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21971 "2018-06-21T22:19:18Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Not only that, but she skipped going to one of the GOP’s concentration camps and, instead, went to a church daycare.
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> [Melania Trump Stages Shelter Photo-Op While Canceling Real Detention Center Visit](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/21/melania-trump-photo-op-detention-center.html)

Clearly the one hour in Texas was intended to “prove” that All The Kids Are Happy And Well-Cared-For. So naturally a visit to an actual detention center, with cages and kids sleeping on floors, or trying to in the high-90s heat, was ruled out.

And the jacket was just as clearly intended to troll all persons possessed of decency. Because that’s what trolls enjoy doing.  
heat: [x.com](https://twitter.com/aldlr/status/1007385854141255680)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21972 "2018-06-21T22:22:39Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah, nobody cares/likes her or DJT, or what he’s doing, enough to say “…um… Melania? That’s probably not a good choice.”
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> I would think at least a half dozen people must have seen it. I mean escorting the FLOTUS to the Airport probably takes 20 people (anybody have any figures on what it takes??)
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> Either they hate her or are to scared to say something.

Why do you think she even thought about it? After all, she used to be a model. It’s not like she had a job where what she wore mattered.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21973 "2018-06-21T22:26:41Z")

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Melania’s entering her own little tailspin of doom. She’s depressed, stressed and angry and wants everyone to know.

I don’t suppose she did it deliberately to mock or distress the abused kids. In fact, I don’t suppose she really gave any thought whatsoever to their feelings, or even existence.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21974 "2018-06-21T22:31:16Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Melania’s entering her own little tailspin of doom. She’s depressed, stressed and angry and wants everyone to know.

I don’t think she likes her husband. At all.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21975 "2018-06-21T22:42:59Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Why do you think she even thought about it? After all, she used to be a model. It’s not like she had a job where what she wore mattered.

😕

Not quite sure what you’re saying. Or is it sarcasm?

I would imagine no model gets to pick out what to wear. Though now of course she can.

Perhaps some staffer put this on her, and she had no idea. Perhaps she picked it out to send a message. Perhaps she doesn’t give a shit.

What surprises me is that nobody saw it and corrected it. Maybe they all hate her. Maybe the are afraid of her. Or maybe someone tried and she told them to fuck off.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21976 "2018-06-21T22:48:27Z")

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He is being sarcastic. His point is that, as a model who is trained in the art of the image, she knew _exactly_ what she was doing. She chose that jacket, or her husband. No one else.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21977 "2018-06-21T22:59:02Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Maybe the are afraid of her. Or maybe someone tried and she told them to fuck off.

If my theory (that she wore it out of resentment at being dragged away from her comfy couch) is correct, no doubt she was in a glaringly foul mood, discouraging anyone from trying to talk to her and insuring that anybody who did would get their head bitten off.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21978 "2018-06-21T23:06:07Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> That jacket would be in poor taste if it were Cardi B. wearing it to a strippers convention. That a First Lady wore it EVER, ANYWHERE, is bad enough. But that she wore it for a tour of her husband’s growing humanitarian atrocity, I can’t even…  
> Is this a prenup evasion strategy or something?

At least this FLOTUS has the class to not expose her bare arms. The horror!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21979 "2018-06-21T23:12:10Z")

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Honestly, if she wants to make a statement, come to the next official function in a tan pantsuit. That’ll drive the contards crazy.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21980 "2018-06-21T23:26:12Z")

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Saw this on Twitter:

> [@](#):
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> i’m going to go out on a limb and say that ivanka posting a picture of her son, melania wearing that “i don’t care” jacket, and two immigration hawks making public outings to mexican restaurants are… not thoughtless blunders.

That’s a good point.

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/jduffyrice/status/1009904775868092417?s=19>

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21981 "2018-06-21T23:28:40Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I don’t think it’s stupidity. I think it was a passive-aggressive display of annoyance at being dragged out for a photo op.

That explains Bess Truman’s fondness for sashes that read _FUCK OFF._

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21982 "2018-06-21T23:35:29Z")

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I’m pretty sure sales of that jacket are going to be through the roof. They will be part of the uniform at Trump rallies.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21983 "2018-06-21T23:50:35Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Saw this on Twitter:
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> > [@](#):
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> > i’m going to go out on a limb and say that ivanka posting a picture of her son, melania wearing that “i don’t care” jacket, and two immigration hawks making public outings to mexican restaurants are… not thoughtless blunders.
> 
> That’s a good point.
> 
> [x.com](https://mobile.twitter.com/jduffyrice/status/1009904775868092417?s=19)

Yes. The jacket was trolling. And so far as I can tell from what CNN and MSNBC have said so far, it’s working—the newspeople are falling into the trap of talking about “the jacket.”

This gives the Trumpsters the handy message ‘there is a terrible crisis on our border and all that The Media can talk about is a _jacket_!!!1!!!’

What reporters and anchors and pundits should do is to avoid the word “jacket” entirely. “Melania Trump arrived in Texas with the words _I REALLY DON’T CARE. DO U?_ on her back”—that formulation would let them discuss Melania’s choice to send that message, without giving the unscrupulous the gift of ‘all they do is talk about a _jacke_t!!!’

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21984 "2018-06-22T00:20:46Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> If Amazon is doing well, it’s in spite of Trump’s best efforts.

I’m sayin’!

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