# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/201 "2016-12-16T14:43:05Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > That’s the problem with crying wolf! Help! Help! Rabid wolf! ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/202 "2016-12-16T15:24:11Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I understand Trump is worse but we have buried the fucking needle on demonizing the Republican candidates. What could we say about Trump that we haven’t already said about McCain and Romney? > > Do you doubt for a second that we would have seen wailing and gnashing of teeth on this board if Romney won in 2012? The partisans on this board have cried wolf so often that its just par for the course. Really? I would say McCain is a patriot and so is Romney to a lesser extent. Trump? He’s out to line his pockets and Putin probably has him by the balls. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/203 "2016-12-16T18:54:08Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Really? I would say McCain is a patriot and so is Romney to a lesser extent. Trump? He’s out to line his pockets and Putin probably has him by the balls. I would also call McCain a patriot. If he had been running against Gore in 2000, I would have voted for him. If he had been running against Hillary in 2016, I would have voted for him. Even as I was voting against him in 2008, I respected the fact that he was trying to push back against the folks who were calling Obama a secret muslim, but a lot of people on this board was having none of it. McCain somehow became a sexual predator and loose cannon. Same thing with Romney. We almost ran out of names to call him. We practically blamed him for the financial crisis and frankly, we engaged in more than a little bit of anti-Mormon bigotry. Perhaps Trump is out to line his own pockets but I think it is more likely that running for President was a vanity project and he was as surprised as anyone that he won. This is not part of some grand master plan to fleece the country. He gained credibility within the Republican party by being a racist misogynistic xenophobe but that is a Republican problem, not a Trump problem, he just does it better than most Republicans because he just says what they are implying. But, how in the world does Putin have him by the balls? Is there some imagined secret that Trump would be too embarrassed to have revealed? The man has no shame, wtf could you possibly hold over his head? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/204 "2016-12-16T19:02:26Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > But, how in the world does Putin have him by the balls? Is there some imagined secret that Trump would be too embarrassed to have revealed? The man has no shame, wtf could you possibly hold over his head? I imagine he’s into hock to some Russian lenders. Are American banks even willing to lend to him? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/205 "2016-12-16T19:08:03Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I imagine he’s into hock to some Russian lenders. Are American banks even willing to lend to him? Yes but You’re in a bubble, man. Got to get out from that bubble. It’s so easy once you let go and enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/206 "2016-12-16T19:11:47Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I would also call McCain a patriot. If he had been running against Gore in 2000, I would have voted for him. If he had been running against Hillary in 2016, I would have voted for him. > > Even as I was voting against him in 2008, I respected the fact that he was trying to push back against the folks who were calling Obama a secret muslim, but a lot of people on this board was having none of it. McCain somehow became a sexual predator and loose cannon. > > Same thing with Romney. We almost ran out of names to call him. We practically blamed him for the financial crisis and frankly, we engaged in more than a little bit of anti-Mormon bigotry. I’m not quite sure about Romney but I don’t remember any of that about McCain on this board. The only thing he got a lot of flak for here was his choice of running mate. You’d probably agree he didn’t get as much flak as Palin did, and Palin and Trump got about the same amount, so therefore McCain did not get as much. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/207 "2016-12-16T19:31:29Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > That’s the problem with crying wolf! Are you going to tell us with a straight face that Republicans did not cry wolf about our current President? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/208 "2016-12-16T19:42:08Z")
Message board, can’t see faces, straight or otherwise. Count your blessings. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/209 "2016-12-16T19:43:43Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Are you going to tell us with a straight face that Republicans did not cry wolf about our current President? And now the Burger-master **is** the Wolf. The Republicans are now busy claiming that him appointing the fox to guard the hen house, the bull to the china shop, the vulture to organize the city and having the weasel and the magpie as advisors is peachy keen. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/210 "2016-12-16T19:53:04Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Yes but You’re in a bubble, man. Got to get out from that bubble. It’s so easy once you let go and enjoy it. What is it with psychological projection in regards to Trump and his supporters? The people who voted for him are probably going to get the most fucked over from his administration. He’s not in it for the little guy. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/211 "2016-12-16T20:20:09Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > What is it with psychological projection in regards to Trump and his supporters? The people who voted for him are probably going to get the most fucked over from his administration. He’s not in it for the little guy. His supporters are America’s **worst** Americans, and profoundly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/212 "2016-12-16T21:21:29Z")
Trump wants to name Sylvester Stallone as chair of the National Endowment for the Arts. > **[Trump taps Sylvester Stallone for top 'arts' role in administration](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4037802/Donald-Trump-taps-Sylvester-Stallone-arts-role.html)** > > The president-elect has approached the veteran actor for a top arts-related position in the Trump administration, sources tell DailyMail.com. The Rocky star is said pumped over the possibility. I guess it’s better than the typical Republican goal of defunding the arts altogether. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/213 "2016-12-16T21:22:34Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > What is it with psychological projection in regards to Trump and his supporters? The people who voted for him are probably going to get the most fucked over from his administration. He’s not in it for the little guy. I just started reading David Cay Johnstons “the making of donald trump” So far very enlightening and a quick read. I’ll be back with stuff, but I have every faith that any argument is a straw in the wind compared with what amounts basically to russian trolling schemes. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/214 "2016-12-16T21:30:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump wants to name Sylvester Stallone as chair of the National Endowment for the Arts. > > [Donald Trump taps Sylvester Stallone for top 'arts' role  | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4037802/Donald-Trump-taps-Sylvester-Stallone-arts-role.html) > > I guess it’s better than the typical Republican goal of defunding the arts altogether. I heard Putin is unhappy. He wanted Ivan Drago. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/215 "2016-12-16T22:50:59Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I imagine he’s into hock to some Russian lenders. Are American banks even willing to lend to him? No they are not. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/216 "2016-12-16T22:52:41Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > What is it with psychological projection in regards to Trump and his supporters? > **[AcehGround](https://www.acehground.com)** > > AcehGround.com merupakan Portal Berita Aceh yang menyajikan Berita Terkini mulai dari Berita skala Daerah, Nasional hingga Internasional. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/217 "2016-12-17T02:56:25Z")
I’m surprised noone has mentioned Trump’s pick for Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, who has said that left-wing Jews, like myself, are worse than Jews who worked with the Nazis: > [@](#): > > Finally, are J Street supporters really as bad as kapos? The answer, actually, is no. They are far worse than kapos – Jews who turned in their fellow Jews in the Nazi death camps. The kapos faced extraordinary cruelty and who knows what any of us would have done under those circumstances to save a loved one? But J Street? They are just smug advocates of Israel’s destruction delivered from the comfort of their secure American sofas – it’s hard to imagine anyone worse. ([http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18828](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18828)) Now that’s a unifying figure if ever there was one! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/218 "2016-12-17T04:41:10Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > I’m surprised noone has mentioned Trump’s pick for Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, who has said that left-wing Jews, like myself, are worse than Jews who worked with the Nazis: > ([http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18828](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18828)) > > Now that’s a unifying figure if ever there was one! :eek: I mentioned it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19857442&postcount=633) (Trump’s Cabinet of Curiosities): > [@](#): > > Quote: > WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Thursday named David M. Friedman, a bankruptcy lawyer aligned with the Israeli far right, as his nominee for ambassador to Israel, elevating a campaign adviser who has questioned the need for a two-state solution and has likened left-leaning Jews in America to the Jews who aided the Nazis in the Holocaust. > > Mr. Friedman, whose outspoken views stand in stark contrast to decades of American policy toward Israel, did not wait long on Thursday to signal his intention to upend the American approach. In a statement from the Trump transition team announcing his nomination, he said he looked forward to doing the job “from the U.S. embassy in Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem.” > > … \ … > > Mr. Friedman, who has no diplomatic experience, has said that he does not believe it would be illegal for Israel to annex the occupied West Bank and he supports building new settlements there, which Washington has long condemned as illegitimate and an obstacle to peace. > > [Cite](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/us/politics/donald-trump-david-friedman-israel-ambassador.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1) ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/219 "2016-12-17T14:31:53Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I mentioned it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19857442&postcount=633) (Trump’s Cabinet of Curiosities): It’s hard to keep track…So many threads, so little time! Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/220 "2016-12-17T14:37:44Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > You’d think our local Republicans would be full of joyous anticipation of the future that awaits. They should be regaling us with tales of The Greatness of The Donald & The Wisdom shown by his Cabinet Choices. Let’s hear more about Rick Perry & Ben Carson! > > Instead, they keep telling us that Hillary was “flawed.” The more we learn about Trump, the better she looks. Well, more Americans \*did \*prefer her… Seems to be “a thing” now. Since the fat orange puke has no good qualities (other than the ability to lie and screw people over and steal their money) all we hear is “derp hitlery bad”. They simply have nothing to point to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=12)