# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 110
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2181 "2017-03-10T03:57:11Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Tucker Carlson and Hannity, actually. If you want to hear from a grown man who will always defend Trump no matter what he does or says, you couldn’t do any better than Hannity. And look! He’s a plagiarist, just like you! [http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/02/08/what-about-intellectual-property-rights-sean-hannity/](http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/02/08/what-about-intellectual-property-rights-sean-hannity/) ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2182 "2017-03-10T03:57:11Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Enough with the plagiarism, I quoted someone else on an online forum Multiple people, multiple times. Not just W, but also Andrew Sullivan. And that’s just the two quotes I checked. I bet there’s more. Want to take the bet? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2183 "2017-03-10T04:00:45Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Multiple people, multiple times. Not just W, but also Andrew Sullivan. And that’s just the two quotes I checked. I bet there’s more. Want to take the bet? I do. Go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2184 "2017-03-10T04:18:18Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I do. Go for it. Weren’t you leaving this den of leftists, you fucking stupid plagiarising muppet? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2185 "2017-03-10T04:19:52Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I do. Go for it. Easy enough. From one of your stupider posts (saying a lot): > [@ckalli1998](#): > > it prodouces and provides goods and services to treat patients with curative, preventive, rehabilitative, and palliative care And from Wikipedia: The healthcare industry (also called the medical industry or health economy) is an aggregation and integration of sectors within the economic system that provides goods and services to treat patients with curative, preventive, rehabilitative, and palliative care. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2186 "2017-03-10T04:24:05Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Back now. Needed a little time to cool off. I’m cooled. Don’t you have homework to do? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2187 "2017-03-10T04:24:47Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I do. Go for it. Another one: > [@ckalli1998](#): > > The Cheney view–that deficits don’t matter–was more defensible 16 years ago than it is today, given how much national debt we currently have, although I would argue that even then Cheney was wrong to say that. And, by [someone else](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uq-FzGV-ahIJ:www.nationalreview.com/corner%3Fpage%3D38%261484851313467_%253Cstrong%3D+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us): In my view, Republicans are heading in the wrong direction on deficits at exactly the wrong time. The Cheney view — that deficits don’t matter — was more defensible 15 years ago than it is now, given the trajectory of the national debt. Good job on incrementing the number of years by 1, though. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2188 "2017-03-10T04:27:43Z")
No, I’ve done it all, and I have Spring Break coming up ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2189 "2017-03-10T04:33:00Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No, I’ve done it all, and I have Spring Break coming up Better hope your professors don’t have access to Google, and decide to internet search your papers, or you won’t be going back. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2190 "2017-03-10T04:34:09Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Better hope your professors don’t have access to Google, and decide to internet search your papers, or you won’t be going back. As I’ve said many times before, I do not plagiarize my college papers, and my professors have an automatic plagiarism-check for that. Thanks for your concern though. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2191 "2017-03-10T04:36:41Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As I’ve said many times before, I do not plagiarize my college papers, and my professors have an automatic plagiarism-check for that. Thanks for your concern though. I’ve got a good one for you: > [@ckalli1998](#): > > Wrong. > > There is a fundamental way in which the library is not socialist: the production of goods. While some libraries do indeed produce books (a trend that will grow), and it could be argued that the provision of public space and programs is often “produced” by library staff, the overwhelming stock of the library is and will continue to be produced by others: mainly individuals, but also (as in newspapers, magazines, and electronic resources) by corporations. The public sector invests in the private; the private sector (through taxes and philanthropy) invests in the public. [But there is a fundamental way](http://www.jlarue.com/2015/06/are-libraries-socialist.html) in which the library is not socialist: the production of goods. While some libraries do indeed produce books (a trend that will grow), and it could be argued that the provision of public space and programs is often “produced” by library staff, the overwhelming stock of the library is and will continue to be produced by others: mainly individuals, but also (as in newspapers, magazines, and electronic resources) by corporations. The public sector invests in the private; the private sector (through taxes and philanthropy) invests in the public. You better hope your professors are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2192 "2017-03-10T04:36:53Z")
ckalli1998 wrote: “I realized they were over a decade old, and he quickly apologized for it, and that they were bigger issues facing this country then a 10-year-old tape between Hollywood playboys.” It isn’t the tape itself, but what the tape reveals about the mindset of the man. The age of the tape matters little because it reveals basic aspects of the personality that might change from age 20 to 30 but not from age 60 to 70. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2193 "2017-03-10T04:38:26Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > ckalli1998 wrote: I bet he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2194 "2017-03-10T04:39:45Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No, I’ve done it all, and I have Spring Break coming up Oh goodie, why don’t you go copy and paste yourself into some pictures of people having fun. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2195 "2017-03-10T04:43:03Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As I’ve said many times before, I do not plagiarize my college papers, and my professors have an automatic plagiarism-check for that. Thanks for your concern though. We’re not concerned. More like hopeful. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2196 "2017-03-10T05:03:09Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Multiple people, multiple times. Not just W, but also Andrew Sullivan. And that’s just the two quotes I checked. I bet there’s more. Want to take the bet? My Google-fu was insufficient to find the Sullivan quote. Where’s it from? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2197 "2017-03-10T05:06:36Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > my gut Which is, by definition, full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2198 "2017-03-10T05:07:07Z")
I heard a saying once. Something about taking a knife to a gunfight? Or maybe it was taking a poorly-sharpened Crayola to a gunfight? Kid, you’re playing in the Bigs here. When you come back bring some data. What you have won’t even make up for your lack of pie, and we’ll poke at you until we are bored. And when we get bored, it’s no victory. It just means you bored your betters. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2199 "2017-03-10T05:16:03Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > My Google-fu was insufficient to find the Sullivan quote. Where’s it from? It’s from an article in the Sunday Times (Sept. 16, 2001) ([only online link I could find](https://books.google.com/books?id=03ct9daFycUC&pg=PA201#v=onepage&q&f=false)): The middle part of the country—the great red zone that voted for Bush—is clearly ready for war. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead—and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column. And what \*\*ckalli1998 \*\*wrote: > [@ckalli1998](#): > > The great red zone of Middle America, the South, and the Rust Belt that voted from Trump is clearly ready for the great, coming economic growth after 8 years of slow growth and low home ownership rates, the lowest in 51 years in fact. The decadent, ultraliberal left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead; they may very well mount s fifth column and make common cause with the Islamists. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2200 "2017-03-10T05:29:24Z")
[snipped clear plagiarism from ckalli1998] > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > You better hope your professors are stupid. Daaaamn! **Evil Economist**! You are evil… :)😉 Even I who has to deal with English as a second language has not reached for the plagiarist card like ckalli1998 has shown here. Of course I do cite a lot, but when I have to expand and report my ideas then I do subject many doper readers to crimes against grammar, but many posters do let me live. :o . Still, they are my own words. It is very interesting to me that flim flam artists like Trump did chose many cabinet members that also have a history with blatant plagiarism, it is like it is also a “quality” for the type of Republican that is gaining power nowadays. [It is also interesting that the “best” of the ones against climate science also resort to it.](http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2011-05-15-climate-study-plagiarism-Wegman_n.htm) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=109) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=111)