# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1100
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21985 "2018-06-22T00:24:20Z")
Good grief, y’all! I’m away from the Dope for 12 hours and I come back to this?? Can’t you people keep the First Lady under control? And you’re right: it’s a distraction so we’ll stop talking about the parent-child separation. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21986 "2018-06-22T00:40:14Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Saw this on Twitter: > That’s a good point. > > [x.com](https://mobile.twitter.com/jduffyrice/status/1009904775868092417?s=19) This. It’s a constellation of trollery. Trump has not a fucking clue how to govern, but he knows how to use the modern media to manipulate people. He knows how to gain power and leverage. We should be careful in assuming that his incompetence at governing will be his downfall. He was grossly incompetent in business - that didn’t stop him from manipulating the public into making them believe that he was a businessman worth billions. Incompetence at governing does not prevent people from gaining more power and leverage. Most of the world’s most successful autocrats are pretty bad at governing in the public interest. The trolling is his way of controlling what people talk about, what they think about. It also inflames passions and causes his enemies – and I don’t use that word by accident – to react and potentially overreact. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21987 "2018-06-22T00:43:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This. > > It’s a constellation of trollery. Trump has not a fucking clue how to govern, but he knows how to use the modern media to manipulate people. He knows how to gain power and leverage. We should be careful in assuming that his incompetence at governing will be his downfall. He was grossly incompetent in business - that didn’t stop him from manipulating the public into making them believe that he was a businessman worth billions. Incompetence at governing does not prevent people from gaining more power and leverage. Most of the world’s most successful autocrats are pretty bad at governing in the public interest. > > The trolling is his way of controlling what people talk about, what they think about. It also inflames passions and causes his enemies – and I don’t use that word by accident – to react and potentially overreact. I absolutely agree. None of this was an accident or oversight. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21988 "2018-06-22T00:48:08Z")
And people thought I was reading too much into him using the words, “Separate but equal,” when he rolled out his Space (Cadet) Force plan. This crowd are masters of trolling. It’s what they do. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21989 "2018-06-22T00:59:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > That explains Bess Truman’s fondness for sashes that read _FUCK OFF._ I laughed! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21990 "2018-06-22T01:51:06Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Yeah, you know, that white dump which didn’t use to have enough gilded toilets. Isn’t Trump still asking if the place ever got a name? I mean, it’s kind of hard to remember an address with numbers in it, after all, if you’re pretty poor at business math. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21991 "2018-06-22T01:54:56Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I suspect that he will find your facts unconvincing. Too many syllables. He will find those facts “Fake”. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21992 "2018-06-22T02:01:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > :eek::smack::mad: > > I stand corrected. Our first lady really _is_ just that stupid. Well, of course she’s dumber than her hubby. He married her; she married him. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21993 "2018-06-22T02:07:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Jacket or no jacket (who wears a fucking jacket along the border in June?!)…her presence was enough spit in everyone’s eye. > > Children want to see their parents; instead, they see the woman who is called our first lady (a woman who violated our immigration laws herself, no less). > > This is administration enjoys watching people in pain. They get off on it. Yep. You know the old insult, “Piss on you”? Well, it’s not a punishment if the receiver enjoys it. There’s literally nothing that will get through to anyone in today’s administration. They enjoy the “punishment”. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21994 "2018-06-22T02:39:02Z")
Jesus Christ. > [@](#): > > @IanBremmer describes exchange between Chancellor Merkel and Pres. Trump at #G7 summit: “He stood up, he put his hand in his pocket… and he took two Starbursts candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, ‘Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything.’” [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393311-ian-bremmer-trump-tossed-candy-to-merkel-during-g-7-said-dont](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393311-ian-bremmer-trump-tossed-candy-to-merkel-during-g-7-said-dont) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21995 "2018-06-22T03:17:36Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > I’m pretty sure sales of that jacket are going to be through the roof. They will be part of the uniform at Trump rallies. Womp womp has already become a rallying cry. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21996 "2018-06-22T03:17:40Z")
A comic I saw once, years and years ago - Man sitting at a bar commiserating while drinking a beer - _“My Wife left me, my dog died and I lost my Job… And all anyone cares about is my hat”._ Stranger next to him - _“What’s the matter with your hat?”_ I don’t care either Melania. I don’t care about you. I do care about your criminal husband. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21997 "2018-06-22T04:45:12Z")
I guess Tom Arnold, who is doing a show with Vice searching for lost videos of Trump being shitty, just tweeted out a picture of himself. With Michael Cohen. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21998 "2018-06-22T05:46:56Z")
So on the theory that the administration wants you to be talking about Melania’s jacket, not ways in which they’re currently fucking up your country, might [changes to food stamps](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/21/house-passes-farm-bill-663124) be one of the things they don’t want you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/21999 "2018-06-22T06:30:50Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Intellectual Elite. Liberal Elite. > [@Frodo](#): > > Moral Elite. Articulate. ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22000 "2018-06-22T06:46:53Z")
If this administration is going after those who may have lied on their immigration papers, regardless of whether they’re brown or not (let’s face it they just care about brown people) why aren’t they looking at the First Lady who violated her visa terms and then married a citizen? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22001 "2018-06-22T07:39:30Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Stupid or just a really crappy person, like her husband. Or both. Also like her husband. I actually like the jacket…I would wear it, because I’m very asocial and grumpy by disposition. But I wouldn’t wear it to something where I was trying to display empathy. Or, at all, now, since she’s given it a meaning that I disagree with. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22002 "2018-06-22T07:46:25Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Also like her husband. > > I actually like the jacket…I would wear it, because I’m very asocial and grumpy by disposition. But I wouldn’t wear it to something where I was trying to display empathy. > > Or, at all, now, since she’s given it a meaning that I disagree with. Sigh. You piece of shit. This administration is abusing kids. It’s not funny. There is no joke. You support abusing children? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22003 "2018-06-22T07:52:59Z")
And now [something only the stupid can defend](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/06/20/white-house-proposes-merging-labor-education-departments/23464213/): merging the education and labor departments, along with dismantling the US Army Corps of Engineers and, of course, playing a shell game with food stamps. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22004 "2018-06-22T08:01:57Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > You piece of shit. This administration is abusing kids. It’s not funny. There is no joke. You support abusing children? No, you utter illiterate misogynist moron. That is literally, 100%, exactly the opposite of what I said, as anyone who had two braincells to rub together could have figured out, you fucking tool. But, hey, don’t let me stop your using abused kids to call a woman a whore while still pretending to be a progressive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1099) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1101)