# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22005 "2018-06-22T08:07:03Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> No, you utter illiterate misogynist moron.
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> That is literally, 100%, exactly the opposite of what I said, as anyone who had two braincells to rub together could have figured out, you fucking tool.
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> But, hey, don’t let me stop your using abused kids to call a woman a whore while still pretending to be a progressive.

What part did you not understand? Whore is a fine term by me. I was quite promiscuous in my day. And I’m not ashamed of it. WE ARE ABUSING KIDS. It isn’t funny. Don’t make a joke.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22006 "2018-06-22T08:12:51Z")

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**Kamino Neko** You said you’d wear a jacket that says I-don’t-care to a kid’s concentration camp. That is not OK. It’s not funny. Own your words.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22007 "2018-06-22T08:18:30Z")

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> [@fervour](#):
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> **Kamino Neko** You said you’d wear a jacket that says I-don’t-care to a kid’s concentration camp. That is not OK. It’s not funny. Own your words.

Own your illiteracy.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22008 "2018-06-22T08:21:59Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Own your illiteracy.

It’s not funny. There is no joke. Own your callousness. Have you called your senators and representative?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22009 "2018-06-22T08:22:59Z")

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:rolleyes:

Not a single word in my post makes light of child abuse, you fucking illiterate tool. This is a product of your diseased imagination.

If you’re going to take a Trumpian stretch and claim that the statement that it’s not a bad coat, inherently, only in the situation where Melania wore it is making light of child abuse, then your constant use of ‘whore’ as an insult is even more so.

Do you believe that children being forced into prostitution makes them bad? Because you’re saying so every single time you use whore as an insult. (Note to illiterates: I don’t actually believe this. It is just an example of the kind of taffy-pulling lie that would be required to call my post making light of, or even supporting, child abuse.)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22010 "2018-06-22T08:27:03Z")

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> [@fervour](#):
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> **Kamino Neko** You said you’d wear a jacket that says I-don’t-care to a kid’s concentration camp

Again. That is _literally the opposite of what I said_, you fucking illiterate tool.

Like, explicitly.

> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> But I wouldn’t wear it to something where I was trying to display empathy.

See how that’s exactly 180° from what you’re claiming I said? Like his lordship said, own your goddamn illiteracy.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22011 "2018-06-22T08:30:24Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> Not a single word in my post makes light of child abuse, you fucking illiterate tool. This is a product of your diseased imagination.
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> If you’re going to take a Trumpian stretch and claim that the statement that it’s not a bad coat, inherently, only in the situation where Melania wore it is making light of child abuse, then your constant use of ‘whore’ as an insult is even more so.
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> Do you believe that children being forced into prostitution makes them bad? Because you’re saying so every single time you use whore as an insult. (Note to illiterates: I don’t actually believe this. It is just an example of the kind of taffy-pulling lie that would be required to call my post making light of, or even supporting, child abuse.)

I’m not going to fight with you. How is that productive? If you say that you believe that Trump is abusing children, I believe you. We should work together to stop the abuse.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22012 "2018-06-22T08:31:06Z")

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That I agree with, at least.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22013 "2018-06-22T08:38:38Z")

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As best as I know, there is another rally planned next weekend. I will do what I can.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22014 "2018-06-22T08:47:07Z")

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> [@fervour](#):
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> **Kamino Neko** You said you’d wear a jacket that says I-don’t-care to a kid’s concentration camp. That is not OK. It’s not funny. Own your words.

I don’t read it that way. He(?) said he liked the jacket, but wouldn’t wear it to a place where empathy was needed.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22015 "2018-06-22T09:03:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I don’t read it that way. He(?) said he liked the jacket, but wouldn’t wear it to a place where empathy was needed.

I’m willing to admit I’m wrong. It hasn’t been the first time.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22016 "2018-06-22T09:07:39Z")

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I don’t want to hijack the thread. Unfortunately, there’s plenty to be upset about.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22017 "2018-06-22T14:08:30Z")

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got the womp-bump:

[Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has been dropped by his speakers bureau](http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/21/media/corey-lewandowski-speakers-bureau/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22018 "2018-06-22T18:46:15Z")

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Today Representative Ted Lieu took to the floor of the House and played the ProPublica tape of crying children. He refused to stop until the Sergeant at Arms was called.

> <https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1010212963897233408?s=19>

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22019 "2018-06-22T18:55:57Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Today Representative Ted Lieu took to the floor of the House and played the ProPublica tape of crying children. He refused to stop until the Sergeant at Arms was called.
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1010212963897233408?s=19)

Good for him, but holy shit-- is that the best they can do?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22020 "2018-06-22T19:15:23Z")

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Is anybody digging this, “look what an illegal to me and my kin,” event Trump’s got going on at the White House? What kind of shit is that? Fucking Howie Carr would pull this race-baiting shit on his radio show, reading off the police blotter with Hispanic last names.

It’s unbelievable how brazen this charlatan is. First he puts in a place a policy of taking children away from asylum seekers, frames them as _illegals_, blames the whole mess on the Democrats and ends up folding in a fog of condemnation, while taking no blame …

… and he follows it up with a scare meeting about how the New Infestation[sup]TM[/sup] is coming for everyone. Disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22021 "2018-06-22T19:20:18Z")

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Trump wants to roll back child labor laws that protect 16 and 17 year olds from working in hazardous jobs.  
[Trump administration wants to roll back child labor laws](https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/)?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22022 "2018-06-22T19:46:38Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Is anybody digging this, “look what an illegal to me and my kin,” event Trump’s got going on at the White House? What kind of shit is that?

How do they put together a group like that on short notice? Did the White House run a TV ad that said “If your kid was killed by an illegal alien, call 1-800-NOMEXICANS and we’d like to talk to you?” Do they have a Facebook page?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22023 "2018-06-22T20:00:57Z")

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Seems the easiest way would be with fake stories and actors. Probably be easy to debunk, but this is the same administration that keeps lying about news stories, so…

(JohnT - ‘she’ is my preferred pronoun. I’ma let the rest of the discussion that led up to that question drop, since it has resolved satisfactorily.)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22024 "2018-06-22T20:10:30Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> How do they put together a group like that on short notice? Did the White House run a TV ad that said “If your kid was killed by an illegal alien, call 1-800-NOMEXICANS and we’d like to talk to you?” Do they have a Facebook page?

Actually, they did just that, as I noted on another thread – though they did have a bit of a problem filtering out the kind of reports they were _looking for_ from the kind of reports they _got_:

> [@How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3945):
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> I recall that way back at the beginning of the current national nightmare, they set up a special hotline for the purpose of facilitating this sort of propaganda. The American people [responded](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39731085) [in](https://www.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/Troll-reports-of-Space-Aliens-floor-Trump-site-11103977.php) [droves](https://gizmodo.com/trump-administration-creates-crime-hotline-to-report-al-1794706532) to the call to “phone this number with reports of crimes by aliens”. I myself reported an alien I saw participating in a brazen theft of laundry from a clothesline – unfortunately, it seems that the authorities have failed to track down the perpetrator despite his distinctive mechanical-rice-picker-damaged ears.

I don’t know offhand if the line is still in operation; if so, I need to file a few more reports…😉

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