# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1102
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22025 "2018-06-22T20:45:37Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Is anybody digging this, “look what an illegal to me and my kin,” event Trump’s got going on at the White House? What kind of shit is that? Fucking Howie Carr would pull this race-baiting shit on his radio show, reading off the police blotter with Hispanic last names. > > It’s unbelievable how brazen this charlatan is. First he puts in a place a policy of taking children away from asylum seekers, frames them as _illegals_, blames the whole mess on the Democrats and ends up folding in a fog of condemnation, while taking no blame … > > … and he follows it up with a scare meeting about how the New Infestation[sup]TM[/sup] is coming for everyone. Disgusting. :eek: Do you have a link/cite for this? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22026 "2018-06-22T20:53:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And now [something only the stupid can defend](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/06/20/white-house-proposes-merging-labor-education-departments/23464213/): merging the education and labor departments, along with dismantling the US Army Corps of Engineers and, of course, playing a shell game with food stamps. EPA going down (further down) the shithole. “The Environmental Protection Agency has given notice to dozens of scientists that they will not be renewed in their roles in advising the agency, continuing a scientific shake-up that has already triggered resignations and charges from some researchers that the administration is politicizing the agency…” “Members of the EPA’s Board of Scientific Counselors (BOSC) whose terms end in August will not see them renewed, according to an email sent to members and obtained by The Washington Post, though they can reapply for their posts. Moreover, five meetings of subcommittees of the board, planned for the late summer and the fall, will now be canceled because of lack of membership.” Lack of membership? You (Pruitt) dismissed them and may hire on industry lackeys. He’s got a lawyer and investment partner that are looking for jobs AGAIN. > **[EPA just gave notice to dozens of scientific advisory board members that...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/06/20/trump-administration-to-decline-to-renew-dozens-of-scientists-for-key-epa-advisory-board/?utm_term=.56c723c06b57)** > > EPA science shake-up continues, with dozens of scientists not renewed for the agency's Board of Scientific Counselors. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22027 "2018-06-22T21:06:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump wants to roll back child labor laws that protect 16 and 17 year olds from working in hazardous jobs. > [Trump administration wants to roll back child labor laws](https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/)? Well, sure - now that some of the new rules and cut backs on SNAP/food stamps require increased work to get those (reduced) benefits those kids will just have to quit school and get real job! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22028 "2018-06-22T21:14:02Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > :eek: Do you have a link/cite for this? > **[Trump hosts citizens ‘permanently separated’ from loved ones | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/donald-trump-immigration-angel-families/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump hosted citizens “permanently separated” from their loved ones due to crime, perhaps seeking to turn the attention away from the more than 2,000 children separated from their parents at the US-Mexico border. “We’re gathered today to hear directly from the American victims of illegal immigration. You know you hear the other side, you never hear this side. You don’t know what is going on,” Trump said, speaking in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building highlighting “angel families.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22029 "2018-06-22T21:17:45Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/donald-trump-immigration-angel-families/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/donald-trump-immigration-angel-families/index.html) > “We’re gathered today to hear directly from the American victims of illegal immigration. You know you hear the other side, you never hear this side. You don’t know what is going on,” Trump said, speaking in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building highlighting “angel families.” Thanks. And holy shit. Just when you think they can’t sink any lower, they find a way. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22030 "2018-06-22T21:26:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Thanks. And holy shit. Just when you think they can’t sink any lower, they find a way. Wow. Logically, this would only be justified if, every week of the year, the White House hosted an event focused on some other random category of people with no higher rate of crime than the overall average. Next week: “Victims of left-handed criminals tell their stories.” A week later: “Victims of bassists in Led Zeppelin tribute bands tell their stories.” etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22031 "2018-06-22T21:32:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > :eek: Do you have a link/cite for this? > **[FACT CHECK: Trump, Illegal Immigration And Crime](https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622540331/fact-check-trump-illegal-immigration-and-crime?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > > In an effort to justify his get-tough policies at the Southern border, President Trump met Friday with victims of crime committed by immigrants who entered the country illegally. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22032 "2018-06-22T21:46:43Z")
Angel families is a new one to me. While I sympathize with the families of murder victims and I want murderers to be caught and prosecuted, I gotta say I’m a skosh uncomfortable with conferring special status on the victims of crimes committed by a specific minority group. There’s really no way for that to end well. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22033 "2018-06-22T21:59:42Z")
I heard the term first, “Angel Families”, but didn’t catch the reference. Didn’t find out what it meant until a little later. In the meantime, my sickly twisted imagination, bolstered by recent experience, bubbled up a few slimey and repulsive possibilities. I wasn’t even close. Jesus wept, and I know why. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22034 "2018-06-22T22:19:52Z")
The “angel families” brought large photos of their deceased loved ones to the event. Trump autographed the photos. He…autographed the photos…of the murder victims. Seriously. > **[Trump autographed photos of deceased crime victims for White House 'Angel...](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html?__twitter_impression=true)** > > At the event for what the president calls "Angel Families," each photo of a deceased victim that was displayed by their families had Trump's signature on it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22035 "2018-06-22T22:42:36Z")
In 1965, did Germans look back and say “wow; what the fuck were we thinking?” I mean, can I look forward to that happening in America in 20 years, or is that unreasonable? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22036 "2018-06-22T22:48:43Z")
It lacks ambition. Americans should treat Republicans the way Germany treats neo-nazis starting tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22037 "2018-06-22T22:55:37Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The “angel families” brought large photos of their deceased loved ones to the event. Trump autographed the photos. He…autographed the photos…of the murder victims. Seriously. > > [Trump autographed photos of deceased crime victims for White House 'Angel Families' event](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html?__twitter_impression=true) I’m surprised he didn’t sign their foreheads. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22038 "2018-06-22T23:19:07Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Angel families is a new one to me. While I sympathize with the families of murder victims and I want murderers to be caught and prosecuted, I gotta say I’m a skosh uncomfortable with conferring special status on the victims of crimes committed by a specific minority group. There’s really no way for that to end well. Yeah, Poland from 1939 can give a few pointers about that to Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22039 "2018-06-22T23:23:34Z")
Someone should compile a list of people murdered by Trump supporters. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22040 "2018-06-23T00:06:16Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The “angel families” brought large photos of their deceased loved ones to the event. Trump autographed the photos. He…autographed the photos…of the murder victims. Seriously. > > [Trump autographed photos of deceased crime victims for White House 'Angel Families' event](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html?__twitter_impression=true) He’s a regular Republican Fucking Hero! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22041 "2018-06-23T00:34:44Z")
George Will says, [vote Democrat](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-against-the-gop-this-november/2018/06/22/a6378306-7575-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3628981fbcca). Seriously, you’ve lost George Will, GOP. Good job. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22042 "2018-06-23T00:46:55Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The “angel families” brought large photos of their deceased loved ones to the event. Trump autographed the photos. He…autographed the photos…of the murder victims. Seriously. > > [Trump autographed photos of deceased crime victims for White House 'Angel Families' event](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html?__twitter_impression=true) Jeepers, it was more than a few, that must have gone on forever. It takes Trump almost thirty seconds to sign his own goddam name. Check it out sometime. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22043 "2018-06-23T01:12:18Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > He’s a regular Republican Fucking Hero! Hey, the pen is mightier than, uh, the, uh … bone spurs! bone spurs! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22044 "2018-06-23T01:27:57Z")
[Trump Reaffirms North Korean Nuclear Threat After Saying It Was Gone](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-re-affirms-north-korean-nuclear-threat-after-saying-it-was-gone) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump told Congress in a letter on Friday that North Korea’s “provocative, destabilizing, and repressive actions…continue to constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat” to the United States. The letter, which notes the country’s “pursuit of nuclear and missile programs,” comes just over a week after Trump boasted on Twitter that there “is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea.” The Lying Shit Gibbon strikes again! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1101) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1103)