# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1106
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22105 "2018-06-24T08:27:13Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The official line that I’ve heard (on NPR, I think) is that “lie” indicates intent, and a reputable journalist can’t always judge the speakers intent. FWIW. There’s also the fact that these days many Republicans (and Trump specifically) have moved past lying and into straight bullshitting - that is to say, they’re not trying to hide an uncomfortable truth but rather they don’t give a shit \*what \*the actual truth is. It’s irrelevant to them. When Trump writes that Germany is experiencing an immigrant-fueled crime spree, I sincerely doubt he’s read even the most cursory report on the state of modern Germany. Fuck, I doubt he’d be able to point Berlin on a map even. He simply doesn’t like Angela Merkel as a person (I’m of the opinion that she makes him feel dumb ; but that’s neither here nor there), and he also wants to sell the US an “immigrants are a huuuuge threat, trust me !” narrative. Combine the two, there you go, good tweet, perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22106 "2018-06-24T09:47:09Z")
> [@Monocracy](#): > > Someone should compile a list of people murdered by Trump supporters. I was going to suggest an event for the families of people killed because of workplace negligence in Trump owned buildings. > **[Trump and Workplace Safety](https://dirtdiggersdigest.org/archives/5204)** > > Like the other Republican candidates, Donald Trump bashes federal regulation of business. He's called the Environmental Protection Agency "a disgrace," saying it is "making it impossible" for companies to function. Yet it's difficult to find any... ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22107 "2018-06-24T11:52:21Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I heartily applaud the restauranteur who kicked Sanders out on her flabby ass. The same should be done to any child molester, which is what Trump and his ilk have turned out to be when you get right down to it. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > - restaurateur Your Alt-left playbook is in more dire need of correction. Stop body shaming. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22108 "2018-06-24T12:08:13Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Your Alt-left playbook is in more dire need of correction. Stop body shaming. What am I missing? Correcting your own spelling is “body shaming”? Or is there some humor there that I’m not getting? ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22109 "2018-06-24T12:25:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What am I missing? Correcting your own spelling is “body shaming”? Or is there some humor there that I’m not getting? Maybe it’s ok to call her a child molester, but using the word flabby to describe her ass is going too far? ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22110 "2018-06-24T12:26:26Z")
Commenting on SHS being thrown out on her flabby ass is body shaming. As someone who likes big butts, I find it hurtful and also fairly inaccurate from my study of her; it perpetuates feelings of groupthink and shame on how women esp. younger ones relate to their bodies. Honestly, if someone body shamed the president, I don’t think I could possibly care; so beyond a certain point yeah, you can be awful enough for me to say eff it. Maybe that line is around when you get a fake doctor publicly giving you the highest health marks. And the rest of the post including calling all the president’s ilk child molestors seemed like it was coming from a loose cannon, so my point is correcting a typo doesn’t really fix it. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22111 "2018-06-24T12:38:14Z")
I’m not offended one iota on behalf of SHS, I just don’t like the message such a remark sends for others to possibly internalize and the reality is few women have more of a visible media presence. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22112 "2018-06-24T12:41:49Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Honestly, if someone body shamed the president, I don’t think I could possibly care; so beyond a certain point yeah, you can be awful enough for me to say eff it. In that case: > ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22113 "2018-06-24T13:25:19Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Commenting on SHS being thrown out on her flabby ass is body shaming. … My bad. I thought you were reacting to **Siam Sam** changing \*restauranteur \*to _restaurateur_ since you quoted both posts. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22114 "2018-06-24T14:11:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This post inspired me to tweet the following - I even lifted a line from you, it was so good: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/1010391266436280320?s=19) > > Thank you. > > (For those of you unused to Twitter, there are about 5 posts in total which you have to scroll down to see.l Glad you liked it! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22115 "2018-06-24T14:25:58Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > I’m not offended one iota on behalf of SHS, I just don’t like the message such a remark sends for others to possibly internalize and the reality is **few women have more of a visible media presence.** Shouldn’t it be a _good_ media presence? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22116 "2018-06-24T15:05:32Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The official line that I’ve heard (on NPR, I think) is that “lie” indicates intent, and a reputable journalist can’t always judge the speakers intent. FWIW. Maybe NPR ought to consider hiring a DISreputable journalist or two, just to add finishing touches to the wire copy… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22117 "2018-06-24T16:38:29Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Maybe that line is around when you get a fake doctor publicly giving you the highest health marks. As I understand it, the man himself was (is) not a “fake” doctor, in the sense that he spent how ever many years of study it takes to get those letters after his name. It would seem that he is (or at least was) smart and informed enough to do genuine doctory stuff. OTOH, Mehmet Ōz has legit letters after his name that indicate his ability to repair humans, yet he is a loathsome nematode (apologies to various worms and parasites) who does unconscionable abuse to his sheepskin – a proper doctor who issues bullshit could realistically be called fake. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22118 "2018-06-24T18:37:49Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The Red Cross is being refused entry into the GOP concentration camps: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/RedCross/status/1009481745186590721?s=19) Another trick “borrowed” from the Nazis during WW2. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22119 "2018-06-24T18:38:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Miller and Nielsen were not booted, they left after harassment. Good enough. They need MORE of the same. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22120 "2018-06-24T18:54:46Z")
Stolen from elsewhere: > [@](#): > > Cracks me up how many of you are like “Democrats just want open borders blah blah blah” and then the next breath “Democrats made the laws that shut down the borders and separated families”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22121 "2018-06-24T19:01:28Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > OTOH, Mehmet Ōz has legit letters after his name that indicate his ability to repair humans, yet he is a loathsome nematode (apologies to various worms and parasites) who does unconscionable abuse to his sheepskin – a proper doctor who issues bullshit could realistically be called fake. I believe the term you’re looking for is “quack”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22122 "2018-06-24T21:02:04Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I believe the term you’re looking for is “quack”. 🙂 I’d need to see him lower his head to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22123 "2018-06-24T21:12:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Stolen from elsewhere: > > > [@](#): > > > > Cracks me up how many of you are like “Democrats just want open borders blah blah blah” and then the next breath “Democrats made the laws that shut down the borders and separated families”. They don’t notice the inconsistency because their brains are so flooded with the Joy of the Attack. _“Democrats,” the Enemy! Let us shout completely self-contradictory accusations about them, and dance 'round the fire! Hail the Dear Leader who will keep us safe from The Enemy!_ …and so on. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22124 "2018-06-25T01:21:03Z")
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