# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22225 "2018-06-27T04:37:40Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

Buncha weak ass scrub bitches.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22226 "2018-06-27T05:07:15Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> This is going viral now, but this woman, Air Force veteran, Democrat is running for a congressional seat in a deep red county against an ingrained tea party republican. Think she has a chance? [https://youtu.be/Zi6v4CYNSIQ](https://youtu.be/Zi6v4CYNSIQ) If this is what Trump has awakened in his opposition, he’s in big trouble, I hope many more emulate this campaign

That is a very good campaign ad. I noticed that, sadly, the comments are disabled. The sadness is because we all know or should know why they’re disabled on that video.

And in other news related to the cluster in office, the Supreme Court of the United States just validated lying to the court.

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**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22227 "2018-06-27T08:32:04Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> This is going viral now, but this woman, Air Force veteran, Democrat is running for a congressional seat in a deep red county against an ingrained tea party republican. Think she has a chance? [https://youtu.be/Zi6v4CYNSIQ](https://youtu.be/Zi6v4CYNSIQ) If this is what Trump has awakened in his opposition, he’s in big trouble, I hope many more emulate this campaign

I agree, it’s very much attuned to an audience that is used to high production values - which is also a problem.

This ad cost serious money. It highlights how much is spent even in political races that are, on their own, not decisive. To stay in power or to topple it, a party has to spent several fortunes by now.

Which adds to the already high threshold for everyone else to establish a 3rd or 4th party expressing values and ideas beyond the entrenched.

When a society makes campaigns so expensive, it also makes sure that its political choices are restricted from the start.

That’s great for established parties, even better for their donors; not so much for the voters and the adaptability of the political system and its responsiveness to change.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22228 "2018-06-27T11:53:04Z")

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> [@wintertime](#):
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> I agree, it’s very much attuned to an audience that is used to high production values - which is also a problem.
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> This ad cost serious money.

Imagine how much it would’ve cost if De Niro and DiCaprio hadn’t been cut out.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22229 "2018-06-27T12:10:08Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Imagine how much it would’ve cost if De Niro and DiCaprio hadn’t been cut out.

Actually, their agents were smart and they got their cut up front. ouch!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22230 "2018-06-27T13:05:17Z")

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> [@wintertime](#):
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> I agree, it’s very much attuned to an audience that is used to high production values - which is also a problem.
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> This ad cost serious money. It highlights how much is spent even in political races that are, on their own, not decisive. To stay in power or to topple it, a party has to spent several fortunes by now.
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> Which adds to the already high threshold for everyone else to establish a 3rd or 4th party expressing values and ideas beyond the entrenched.
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> When a society makes campaigns so expensive, it also makes sure that its political choices are restricted from the start.
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> That’s great for established parties, even better for their donors; not so much for the voters and the adaptability of the political system and its responsiveness to change.

Except a 28-year-old socialist just spent less than $200,000 to knock out the #4 House Democrat, who spent more than a million.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22231 "2018-06-27T13:16:29Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> So now Flabby Ass Sanders is calling for civility. That’s a hoot. She needs to shoot that memo straight to her boss.

You misspelled “up her fat lying ass”.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22232 "2018-06-27T14:35:55Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> …There is plenty of ammo, if the spineless cretins would just USE IT. And USE IT to show him as a weakling and a traitor.

I agree. Trump hasn’t taken the gloves off. He never put them on. Why are we not bringing up all of Trumps crimes? Why are we not demanding his tax returns?

Why not bring up his fake University? Trying to con people that really need some hope and help. Why not bring up Pam Bondi? The Florida AG that dropped her investigation when Trump gave her campaign $25000. This is simple bribery. They should both have their feet held to the fire for that. It’s ridiculous.

His business ties to Russia. American banks loss of trust in him. What about that?

His thinly disguised modeling agencies. His romps with his buddies and underage ‘models’.

Continue to hammer away at his infidelities. His pay offs to keep women silent. Ask again and again where that money came from and is it from his campaign fund.

His entire life is one illegal action after another. Mueller can get the details, let us bring this shit to light.

His base supporters probably won’t give a dam, but they need to know. And when this whole mess comes crumbling down. I want them to know that we KNEW. And we TOLD THEM. Yes that’s spiteful, but I don’t care anymore.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22233 "2018-06-27T14:51:28Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Why not bring up his fake University? Trying to con people that really need some hope and help.

Entire post was great, **enipla** , but I extracted just this line to ask – has he paid the $25million he settled for? I tried to google it a few weeks ago and got nowhere. For a normal person, failure to pay would be a big story, but for Donnie Bonespurs, maybe not.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22234 "2018-06-27T16:33:59Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I read that as embalmment…

I actually think that he is dying. Obviously he couldn’t tell that, but if he just stopped posting here people would start guessing. So he had to have an excuse and he became even more obnoxious than before to get kicked out but when that didn’t work he practically [banned](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27) himself.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22235 "2018-06-27T17:10:58Z")

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Fired Fox News executive poised to be tapped as the next [White House communications director](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/27/former-fox-news-co-pres-bill-shine-is-in-final-talks-with-trump-about-.html)

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> Former co-president of Fox News Bill Shine is in final discussions with President Donald Trump’s administration to become the next White House communications director, according to two people familiar with the matter.
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> Shine was fired from Fox News Channel in May 2017 after becoming embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal that took down the network’s chairman in Roger Ailes.
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> Shine also has close ties to Fox News host Sean Hannity. Before Shine was promoted to the executive ranks of the network, he was Hannity’s producer.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22236 "2018-06-27T17:17:46Z")

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Best people!!!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22237 "2018-06-27T17:51:39Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Best people!!!

Hey, they need someone that can look you in the eye and tell lie after lie. I suspect he is quite qualified.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22238 "2018-06-27T18:02:13Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Best people!!!

Mr. Shine. He diamond!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22239 "2018-06-27T18:26:49Z")

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A Christian organization with ties to Betsy DeVos has gotten over 80 immigrant kids taken from their parents at the border.  
[Christian Non-Profit Faces Scrutiny Over Government Foster Care Contract for Separated Children | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/bethany-christian-services-family-separation-betsy-devos/)?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22240 "2018-06-27T18:29:28Z")

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Jeff Sessions makes jokes about separating families at the border.  
[http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-sessions-families-06272018-story.html?outputType=amp#amp\_tf=From%20%251%24s](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-sessions-families-06272018-story.html?outputType=amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s)

Justice Kennedy is retiring. I think they’ll be pushing him out the door so Trump can get the Senate to approve his fascist pic before the November elections.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22241 "2018-06-27T18:36:55Z")

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North Korea analyst says there is satellite evidence that North Korea is continuing to upgrade its nuclear facilities.

> <https://twitter.com/38NorthNK/status/1011684220434046977>

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22242 "2018-06-27T18:54:14Z")

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> **[The Latest: Wilkie says he can stand up to White House](https://apnews.com/fc32e35c61224a44bedf9cbd1d6ae57a/The-Latest:-Wilkie-says-private-care-needed-to-help-VA)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the Senate confirmation hearing for Robert Wilkie, the nominee to head the Department of Veterans Affairs (all times EDT): 3:20 p.m. Veterans Affairs pick Robert Wilkie is pledging to use his best judgment to improve...

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> President Donald Trump’s pick to lead Veterans Affairs is promising to “shake up complacency” at the department and push changes to expand private care for veterans.
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> Robert Wilkie’s confirmation hearing before a Senate panel is set for Wednesday. In prepared testimony obtained by The Associated Press, the Pentagon undersecretary says the ranks of veterans are rapidly changing and more are in need of faster health care. He says that means veterans should see more private physicians when needed.
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> Still, Wilkie is making clear that private care is not a replacement to the government-run VA. He says the quality of care is high and VA offers something that “can never be duplicated” — doctors who fully understand battlefield injuries.
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> Democrats plan to question him on his views on privatizing VA. Trump has promised to steer more patients to the private sector.

If we privatize the country, what will be left of the Republic for the public?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22243 "2018-06-27T18:55:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> North Korea analyst says there is satellite evidence that North Korea is continuing to upgrade its nuclear facilities.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/38NorthNK/status/1011684220434046977)

Oh noes! You mean Kim was only pulling thump’s leg? Kim, you silly scamp!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22244 "2018-06-27T20:46:24Z")

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Asylum seeker told that if she applied for asylum instead of going back to Guatemala, he daughter would be taken away from her and put up for adoption.

> **[ACLU: Border Agent Threatened to Put Immigrant’s Daughter Up for Adoption](https://www.thedailybeast.com/border-agent-threatened-to-put-immigrants-daughter-up-for-adoption-aclu-says)**
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> A Guatemalan woman was told her daughter would be sent to live with an American family if she didn’t agree for them both to be deported, according to her attorney.

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