# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22525 "2018-07-06T18:19:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> GOP\* is now going after people who enlisted in the military to gain citizenship, and kicking them out.
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> “AP NewsBreak: The U.S. Army has moved in recent weeks to discharge dozens of immigrant recruits and reservists who enlisted through a program that promised them a path to citizenship.”
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> [http://apne.ws/JOBp0kF](https://t.co/OFMawYeMRm)
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> [AP NewsBreak: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits | AP News](https://apnews.com/amp/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d)
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> - I’m kind of tired of blaming just Trump for his parties hateful, racist, ignorant, destructive policies. All this shit is on the conservatives, the entire GOP.

But it so clearly shows what a fucking lie, their “respect the troops” line of crap really has been ALL ALONG, don’t it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22526 "2018-07-06T18:26:15Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Too bad NPR didn’t also play [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSMos09N7VM) at the same time.

And … it got pulled from Facebook as “hate speech” for a while.

Nazis and Russian bots are A-OK with Zuckerberg and his Facebook, the Declaration is not.

> **[Facebook censored a post for ‘hate speech.’ It was the Declaration of...](https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-facebook-hate-speech-20180706-story.html)**
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> At first glance, the Vindicator's Facebook promotion did not seem designed to make waves.

Facebook censored a post for ‘hate speech.’ It was the Declaration of Independence

> **[Facebook blocks, then restores Declaration of Independence post](https://abcnews.go.com/US/facebook-blocks-restores-declaration-independence-post/story?id=56383239)**
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> A newspaper serially publishing the Declaration of Independence on social media this week found an unfortunate surprise: Facebook had blocked one of the posts.

“Somewhere in paragraphs 27-31 of the Declaration of Independence Thomas Jefferson wrote something that Facebook finds offensive,”  
They have since apologized. But why aren’t they so diligent when it is NEEDED?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22527 "2018-07-06T18:38:06Z")

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In a court filing, Paul Manafort is complaining that he’s being held in solitary confinement.

> <https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1015226979694628865>

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22528 "2018-07-06T18:39:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> In a court filing, Paul Manafort is complaining that he’s being held in solitary confinement.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1015226979694628865)

Simple solution. Put him in “general pop” with the REAL hardcases. Then start a betting pool on how long he lives 😃

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22529 "2018-07-06T18:48:12Z")

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Summer-camp-mate - Brother Cook, there is a fly in my potatoes!  
Rest of camp - Brother Cook, why does he have meat and we don’t, huh?  
Manafort has extra privacy, why is he complaining?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22530 "2018-07-06T18:49:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Former Fox News reporter Charles Gasparino:  
> “Just heard @POTUS at this rally complaining about the use of anonymous sources. For the record he was one of mine over the years.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/CGasparino/status/1015006642386042880)

This from the same Fat Orange Shit Stain who loves to say “A lot of people are saying …”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22531 "2018-07-06T19:11:32Z")

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Well, they will be saying it pretty soon! So, anyway, close!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22532 "2018-07-06T19:48:24Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> But it so clearly shows what a fucking lie, their “respect the troops” line of crap really has been ALL ALONG, don’t it.

They’re not \*real \*troops, being alien foreigners who are not to be trusted and would probably shoot our brave real American boys in the back first chance they get.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22533 "2018-07-06T19:54:57Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> :eek:😕
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> O good lord, what the holy hell is going on in that man’s cranium?
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> I’ll see if I can translate:
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> My events draw more people than Elton John does in the same venue. And it’s significant that I can draw people without the benefit of performing on a musical instrument. And my events fill space that, for other performing artists, would be taken up with infrastructure.
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> And Elton John plays the organ. And the brain is an organ. And the mouth is not a musical instrument. It all ties together!

Trump knows all about mouths and organs. Putin’s organ has been in his mouth, for decades.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22534 "2018-07-07T00:21:16Z")

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The governor of Washington Jay Enslee is reporting on MSNBC that Health & Human Services officials told him that if any of the children separated from their parents at the border can be placed in long-term foster care, that counts as “reunification”.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22535 "2018-07-07T00:25:46Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> GOP\* is now going after people who enlisted in the military to gain citizenship, and kicking them out.  
> “AP NewsBreak: The U.S. Army has moved in recent weeks to discharge dozens of immigrant recruits and reservists who enlisted through a program that promised them a path to citizenship.”
> 
> [http://apne.ws/JOBp0kF](https://t.co/OFMawYeMRm)  
> [AP NewsBreak: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits | AP News](https://apnews.com/amp/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d)  
> …

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> But it so clearly shows what a fucking lie, their “respect the troops” line of crap really has been ALL ALONG, don’t it.

It also shows what a line of crap the Trumpite ‘immigration = illegal’ message has been all along. Because the troops being given the boot may be immigrants, but they are fully legal.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22536 "2018-07-07T02:17:22Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The governor of Washington Jay Enslee is reporting on MSNBC that Health & Human Services officials told him that if any of the children separated from their parents at the border can be placed in long-term foster care, that counts as “reunification”.

Yeah, I saw that segment. I seem to be hearing as well of official confirmation that records connecting the locations of at least some of these ‘separated’ kids with the locations of their parents are either non-existent, lost or or have been destroyed. Sorry, don’t have a cite handy at the moment.

Regardless, the ineptitude and cavalier cruelty of this worthless excuse for an administration is really beyond belief. Oh, I remember those halcyon days when Dick Cheney was considered the epitome of a heartless bastard. He’s practically a fucking Gandhi compared to this lot.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22537 "2018-07-07T02:34:16Z")

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Here is a link to Gov. Inslee on MSNBC’s Chris Hayes show:

> **[Gov. Inslee: Trump does not intend to reunite families](https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/gov-inslee-trump-does-not-intend-to-reunite-families-1271895107686?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ai)**
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> Inslee says officials told his office that children might be placed in foster homes instead of being reunited with their parents.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22538 "2018-07-07T12:25:34Z")

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For a comedy show, once again Some News, does a pretty good job of exploring Trumpism and American fascism. It is funny to me how he often does a much better job that the traditional media at discussing such topics. Also, he’s VERY funny.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CcklYVR5I-I/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Isn't Hitler - SOME MORE NEWS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcklYVR5I-I)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22539 "2018-07-07T14:09:45Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It also shows what a line of crap the Trumpite ‘immigration = illegal’ message has been all along. Because the troops being given the boot may be immigrants, but they are fully legal.

They’ll start working on all the [del]Native Americans[/del] Indians next. And – say – aren’t all the black folks descended from immigrants? Just because it wasn’t voluntary on their part doesn’t make it okay to stay here. Anchor babies, all of them. MAWA

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22540 "2018-07-07T15:35:52Z")

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[After Pompeo departs, North Korea calls talks with U.S. ‘regrettable.’](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/secretary-pompeo-north-korea-vice-chairman-seek-clarify-their-positions-n889551)

So much winning. I suppose now, if the NK situation goes to shit, Trump can just blame Pompeo.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22541 "2018-07-07T16:27:18Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> They’ll start working on all the [del]Native Americans[/del] Indians next. And – say – aren’t all the black folks descended from immigrants? Just because it wasn’t voluntary on their part doesn’t make it okay to stay here. Anchor babies, all of them. MAWA

Uh, he already has by saying while being a President that we’re not Sovereign citizens (real ones vs the gold fringe ones).

> **[Trump's Direct Assault on Native American Tribal Sovereignty | Washington...](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/04/24/trumps-direct-assault-on-native-american-tribal-sovereignty/)**
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> The president has a long history of racism against Native Americans, but the administration's latest move could be monumental.

“The Trump administration contends the tribes are a race rather than separate governments,”

I guess, because some of us run successful casinos and none of us want his hands (however tiny) in our pies, he’s pissed at all of us Native Americans: [Sovereignty and Indian Gaming in the United States | Cultural Survival](https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/sovereignty-and-indian-gaming-united-states)

"Trump, as well as state governors and other government officials, was claiming that Indian gaming was out of control, corrupt, and in dire need of stricter governmental regulation. In testimony before a Congressional hearing in October 1993, Trump stated that “it’s obvious that organized crime is rampant on the Indian reservations. This thing is going to blow sky high. It will be the biggest scandal since AlCapone, and it will destroy the gaming industry.” The FBI refuted these statements and has testified that it has not detected major incursions by organized crime into Indian gaming around the country.

Trump has also filed a lawsuit against Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbit and Anthony Hope, Chairman of the National Indian Gaming Commission, alleging the unconstitutionality of the IGRA. The suit says that states should have the right to decide whether to allow gambling and that the Act gives Indians casinos an unfair advantage over Trump’s and other casinos."

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22542 "2018-07-07T16:49:07Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> For a comedy show, once again Some News, does a pretty good job of exploring Trumpism and American fascism. It is funny to me how he often does a much better job that the traditional media at discussing such topics. Also, he’s VERY funny.
> 
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcklYVR5I-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcklYVR5I-I)

Thank you VERY MUCH for posting this link; I was a big fan of Mr. Johnston’s work at Cracked but I had no idea he was continuing with his version of a comedy news show! Good on you for the link and good on him for the show! My Friday is off to a fantastic start!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22543 "2018-07-07T16:58:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Thank you VERY MUCH for posting this link; I was a big fan of Mr. Johnston’s work at Cracked but I had no idea he was continuing with his version of a comedy news show! Good on you for the link and good on him for the show! My Friday is off to a fantastic start!

I don’t know if this makes your Friday better or worse, but today’s Saturday.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22544 "2018-07-07T17:42:57Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I don’t know if this makes your Friday better or worse, but today’s Saturday.

In times like these you sometimes just have to live in the past for a moment. ☹

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