# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1128
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22545 "2018-07-07T17:58:27Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I don’t know if this makes your Friday better or worse, but today’s Saturday. Poor **Bo** just lost a day… (I often have the opposite happen, since I don’t teach on Fridays.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22546 "2018-07-07T18:16:25Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Poor **Bo** just lost a day… I think I know where we might start looking for it. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22547 "2018-07-07T18:47:43Z")
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22548 "2018-07-07T20:06:55Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > I guess, because some of us run successful casinos and none of us want his hands (however tiny) in our pies, he’s pissed at all of us Native Americans: [Sovereignty and Indian Gaming in the United States | Cultural Survival](https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/sovereignty-and-indian-gaming-united-states) > > "Trump, as well as state governors and other government officials, was claiming that Indian gaming was out of control, corrupt, and in dire need of stricter governmental regulation. In testimony before a Congressional hearing in October 1993, Trump stated that “it’s obvious that organized crime is rampant on the Indian reservations. This thing is going to blow sky high. It will be the biggest scandal since AlCapone, and it will destroy the gaming industry.” The FBI refuted these statements and has testified that it has not detected major incursions by organized crime into Indian gaming around the country. > > Trump has also filed a lawsuit against Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbit and Anthony Hope, Chairman of the National Indian Gaming Commission, alleging the unconstitutionality of the IGRA. The suit says that states should have the right to decide whether to allow gambling and that the Act gives Indians casinos an unfair advantage over Trump’s and other casinos." Sounds like more “crush the competition” from Trump. Guess he’s pissed off all sorts of other people can run a successful gambling operation and he can’t. My one and only visit to a casino was to a Native owned one - there is something darkly hilarious/ironic at the notion that the Natives are making money by fleecing non-Native Americans of their money via gambling, booze, tobacco, and over priced food and souvenirs. But good on them for finding a way to make a successful living off the invaders. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22549 "2018-07-07T20:54:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > **My** Friday is off to a fantastic start! > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I don’t know if this makes your Friday better or worse, but today’s Saturday. > [@SaneBill](#): > > In times like these you sometimes just have to live in the past for a moment. ☹ > [@digs](#): > > Poor **Bo** just lost a day… > > (I often have the opposite happen, since I don’t teach on Fridays.) > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I think I know where we might start looking for it. Note the helpful bolding in the first quote, eh: _my_ Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22550 "2018-07-07T22:29:37Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > … And – say – aren’t all the black folks descended from immigrants? Just because it wasn’t voluntary on their part doesn’t make it okay to stay here. Anchor babies, all of them. MAWA Oh, they’ll be allowed to stay. But obviously things aren’t working out, so perhaps some sort of intern/apprenticeship program is the answer. All people with skin color darker than, say, a soda cracker, will be enrolled in these programs, for their own good. They will be able to live in the homes of full-Americans and learn good work habits by cleaning, cooking, doing yard-work, etc.; some will get lots of good fresh air by working in fields; others can work in factories (and live in them, too–to keep things well-organized, perhaps some sort of metal device, flexible in the middle, can be affixed both to their ankles and to their work stations). Perhaps they will like to sing while working; that could be very entertaining for the full-Americans, as well as keeping up the spirits of the Interns. And the best can work toward full citizenship by manning the front lines in our many upcoming wars. Sure, that path toward full citizenship might take a few decades, but, hey, it will do them good to have something to aspire to! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22551 "2018-07-07T23:25:36Z")
I am so bored with winning. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22552 "2018-07-08T08:34:10Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Oh, they’ll be allowed to stay. > > But obviously things aren’t working out, so perhaps some sort of intern/apprenticeship program is the answer. All people with skin color darker than, say, a soda cracker, will be enrolled in these programs, for their own good. > > They will be able to live in the homes of full-Americans and learn good work habits by cleaning, cooking, doing yard-work, etc.; some will get lots of good fresh air by working in fields; others can work in factories (and live in them, too–to keep things well-organized, perhaps some sort of metal device, flexible in the middle, can be affixed both to their ankles and to their work stations). Perhaps they will like to sing while working; that could be very entertaining for the full-Americans, as well as keeping up the spirits of the Interns. > > And the best can work toward full citizenship by manning the front lines in our many upcoming wars. Sure, that path toward full citizenship might take a few decades, but, hey, it will do them good to have something to aspire to! You are wrong. Wrong, I say. Wrong with a capital W. They obviously can’t join the military. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22553 "2018-07-08T17:31:32Z")
[Trump Administration Shocks Global Health Officials by Opposing Pro-Breastfeeding Resolution](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/trump-administration-shocks-global-health-officials-by-opposing-pro-breastfeeding-resolution.html?) We threaten countries who wanted to sponsor the resolution with trade restrictions and loss of military assistance - but we back down when Russia steps in. > [@](#): > > Ecuador had planned to introduce the measure but after threats of economic retaliation it decided to drop the initiative. Advocates then began searching for another sponsor “but at least a dozen countries, most of them poor nations in Africa and Latin America, backed off, citing fears of retaliation,” reports the New York Times. Russia then took up the issue and decided to introduce the resolution. The American officials did not threaten Russia. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22554 "2018-07-08T18:10:22Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > [Trump Administration Shocks Global Health Officials by Opposing Pro-Breastfeeding Resolution](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/trump-administration-shocks-global-health-officials-by-opposing-pro-breastfeeding-resolution.html?) I’m guessing Pence didn’t want to allow anything with “breast” in the title. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22555 "2018-07-08T18:45:30Z")
He should be reminded that “aureole” is similar to “halo”, being that which surrounds a person or object of reverence and devotion. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22556 "2018-07-08T19:17:42Z")
The statement of Utter Innocence and Good Intention: > [@](#): > > …“The resolution as originally drafted placed unnecessary hurdles for mothers seeking to provide nutrition to their children. We recognize not all women are able to breast-feed for a variety of reasons. These women should have the choice and access to alternatives for the health of their babies, and not be stigmatized for the ways in which they are able to do so.”… From _Axios_, here, quoting a “spokesperson” to _NY Times_ [https://www.axios.com/united-states-opposes-united-nations-resolution-promote-breast-feeding-8f2e95b6-de3f-4834-8cd3-1a3785971a16.html](https://www.axios.com/united-states-opposes-united-nations-resolution-promote-breast-feeding-8f2e95b6-de3f-4834-8cd3-1a3785971a16.html) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22557 "2018-07-08T19:20:31Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > [Trump Administration Shocks Global Health Officials by Opposing Pro-Breastfeeding Resolution](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/trump-administration-shocks-global-health-officials-by-opposing-pro-breastfeeding-resolution.html?) > > We threaten countries who wanted to sponsor the resolution with trade restrictions and loss of military assistance - but we back down when Russia steps in. Oh, wonderful. We’re sending a message as clear as an international full-page spread that we’re ceding world leadership to Putin. Lovely. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22558 "2018-07-08T20:40:58Z")
From the [NY Times article on the event](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/health/world-health-breastfeeding-ecuador-trump.html): > [@](#): > > A Russian delegate said the decision to introduce the breast-feeding resolution was a matter of principle. > > “We’re not trying to be a hero here, but we feel that it is wrong when a big country tries to push around some very small countries, especially on an issue that is really important for the rest of the world,” said the delegate, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22559 "2018-07-08T20:59:25Z")
Sorry if I missed this earlier, but no doubt you’ve all heard of the [Chump Angry Baby balloon](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/donald-trump-giant-angry-baby-london-orange-sadiq-khan-a8434981.html) planned for the Traitor-in-Chief’s state visit. His troglodyte supporters are enraged, heh. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22560 "2018-07-08T22:42:19Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > [Trump Administration Shocks Global Health Officials by Opposing Pro-Breastfeeding Resolution](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/trump-administration-shocks-global-health-officials-by-opposing-pro-breastfeeding-resolution.html?) > > We threaten countries who wanted to sponsor the resolution with trade restrictions and loss of military assistance - but we back down when Russia steps in. At the risk of being flamed, and having no idea whether this resolution is useful, the health benefits of breast feeding are [vastly](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everybody-calm-down-about-breastfeeding/) overstated. It seems to be one of those inconvenient times where the data doesn’t live up to the expectation, but we want it to be true, so we believe it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22561 "2018-07-08T22:49:52Z")
Oh dear. This is sure to drive President _You-Cant-Tell-Me-What-To-Do_ into a three-way with Putin and Kim. > [@](#): > > Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) on Sunday urged President Trump to exercise caution during his upcoming summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un “very cold-blooded [and] calculating.” > > “I think it’s fine to talk to the Russians, but the president should clearly understand that neither the Russians nor dictators like Kim Jong Un are going to be charmed by anybody,” Blunt said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” > > “They are very cold-blooded, calculating,” Blunt added. “Putin would be in that category.” > … > > [Cite](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/396032-gop-senator-warns-trump-putin-kim-very-cold-blooded-calculating) Remember, if thump take’s another man’s advice, it is the same as admitting that that man might be as smart as or smarter than thump himself. This. Will. Not. Do. Blunt should have bribed Ivanka to deliver the message. Might have gotten through. Taking advice from women does not threaten his ego, because he KNOWS they’re all dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22562 "2018-07-08T23:07:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh dear. This is sure to drive President _You-Cant-Tell-Me-What-To-Do_ into a three-way with Putin and Kim. Remember, if thump take’s another man’s advice, it is the same as admitting that that man might be as smart as or smarter than thump himself. This. Will. Not. Do. Blunt should have bribed Ivanka to deliver the message. Might have gotten through. Taking advice from women does not threaten his ego, because he KNOWS they’re all dumb. Good points. Let’s face it: at the conclusion of Trump’s one-on-one with Putin, residents of Alaska will find out that they are all going to have to learn Russian. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22563 "2018-07-08T23:09:29Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > At the risk of being flamed, and having no idea whether this resolution is useful, the health benefits of breast feeding are [vastly](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everybody-calm-down-about-breastfeeding/) overstated. In developed countries, maybe. But in places without reliable sources of clean water, breastfeeding is in fact much healthier than the alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22564 "2018-07-08T23:16:35Z")
That right there is the crux of the biscuit. Russian infant formula finesses that requirement with vodka. But, really, who lives someplace where you can’t get enough clean water for a few ounces of baby formula? OK, Puerto Rico and Michigan, but still… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1129)