# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1131
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22605 "2018-07-09T22:11:59Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > “Two. No more than two.” > > Are we sure Trump can count beyond two? Are you implying that Trump is a gully dwarf? I feel offended on their behalf! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22606 "2018-07-09T22:15:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Trump or Giuliani? The description is relevant to both. I meant Giuliani, but yeah it fits both pieces of shit. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22607 "2018-07-09T22:22:29Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > My gosh! It’s like international diplomacy by individual deal-making heads of government gets murky when there’s more than two countries involved! About that diplomacy and deal making skill… North Korea isn’t nearly as interested in denuclearization as Trump said they were. Rocket Man got his photo ops and selfies and now he’s telling Trump to go fuck himself. There will be NO de-noo-kewlar-izations. As I said when it first was being Trumpeted as a Trumpiest of wins, the Orange Asshole gave everything away and got jack shit in return - exactly as Putin and Rocket Man wanted. But it’s interesting to see a lying cheating conniving deal BREAKER get the shaft for once. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22608 "2018-07-10T01:20:46Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > About that diplomacy and deal making skill… > > North Korea isn’t nearly as interested in denuclearization as Trump said they were. Rocket Man got his photo ops and selfies and now he’s telling Trump to go fuck himself. > > There will be NO de-noo-kewlar-izations. As I said when it first was being Trumpeted as a Trumpiest of wins, the Orange Asshole gave everything away and got jack shit in return - exactly as Putin and Rocket Man wanted. > > But it’s interesting to see a lying cheating conniving deal BREAKER get the shaft for once. The best part of Kim’s cunting plan - now that Trump has called off the joint exercises, restarting them actaully _does_ look like provocation. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22609 "2018-07-10T01:21:39Z")
Okay, I’m on vacation (poor WiFi). So who’s this latest teat-feeder blocking, Benghazi bashing, Obamadidit conservative nominee Kavanaugh? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22610 "2018-07-10T01:38:55Z")
He’s the one who is on the record saying the president cannot be indicted. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22611 "2018-07-10T01:39:00Z")
NPR just called him the second most conservative justice on the bench, after Clarence Thomas. Swell. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22612 "2018-07-10T02:25:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He’s the one who is on the record saying the president cannot be indicted. Just a coincidence, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22613 "2018-07-10T03:30:14Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He’s the one who is on the record saying the president cannot be indicted. The guy who worked for Ken Starr and was one of the lead authors of Starrs report said that? Huh. Wonder which was the lie - the comment or the work? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22614 "2018-07-10T10:39:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The last sentence bears repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating. When people voted for Trump and a republican congress in 2016, they voted to turn back the clock - “states rights” is a thing now. And historically, states rights has existed in large part to allow local communities to interpret “liberty” and “civil rights” in their own unique way, often applying to whites exclusively. In all of this talk over the composition of Trump’s supreme court, there’s understandable anxiety over the future of women’s reproductive rights, but there is more at stake. I’m not at all confident that a Trump-loaded Supreme Court would necessarily uphold the spirit of the 14th Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22615 "2018-07-10T12:26:42Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Since everyone already knew this, and Trump himself admitted he fired Comey over “the Russia thing”, I have to ask … > > Does that stupid slimy lying bastard think this makes him look clever or important??? > [@SteveG1](#): > > I meant Giuliani, but yeah it fits both pieces of shit. Oh and lookie here: > [@](#): > > Giuliani worked for foreign clients while serving as Trump’s attorney: report > > Rudy Giuliani is reportedly still working on behalf of foreign clients months after joining President Trump’s legal team, raising conflict of interest concerns. > > The Post reported that one of the clients reportedly is Kharkiv, Ukraine, whose mayor was a prominent figure in the Party of Regions political party. The newspaper notes the political party was at the center of a federal conspiracy prosecution involving Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. > > If Giuliani is found operating in violation of that law, he could face up to 5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine, the Post noted. - [The Hill](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/396235-giuliani-worked-for-foreign-clients-while-serving-as-trumps) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22616 "2018-07-10T13:08:20Z")
Huh. Lookie here: "Source familiar tells NBC that Justice Kennedy had been in negotiations with the Trump team for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh (his former law clerk) Kennedy felt comfortable retiring - @LACaldwellDC & @frankthorp " [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19) Geoff Bennett is the NPR White House correspondent, and works with NBC news. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22617 "2018-07-10T13:15:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Huh. Lookie here: > > "Source familiar tells NBC that Justice Kennedy had been in negotiations with the Trump team for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh (his former law clerk) Kennedy felt comfortable retiring - @LACaldwellDC & @frankthorp " > > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19) > > Geoff Bennett is the NPR White House correspondent, and works with NBC news. I don’t know if that’s illegal, but goddamn that’s criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22618 "2018-07-10T13:19:05Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Huh. Lookie here: > > "Source familiar tells NBC that Justice Kennedy had been in negotiations with the Trump team for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh (his former law clerk) Kennedy felt comfortable retiring - @LACaldwellDC & @frankthorp " > > [https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1016642192616706050?s=19) > > Geoff Bennett is the NPR White House correspondent, and works with NBC news. Can someone point out why this is wrong? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22619 "2018-07-10T13:32:00Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Can someone point out why this is wrong? 1. Because outgoing justices do not get to pick (other than with their votes as a citizen) their successors. 2. Because backroom deals are not how we populate the highest court in the land. 3. Because it’s slimy. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22620 "2018-07-10T13:33:01Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Can someone point out why this is wrong? Well, for one thing it shows that all the stories about Trump carefully considering and interviewing candidates was a sham, a lie meant to entertain the presumably-ignorant masses. It shows we can’t trust this administration to tell us the truth about _anything_. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22621 "2018-07-10T13:34:04Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > 1. Because outgoing justices do not get to pick (other than with their votes as a citizen) their successors. > > 2. Because backroom deals are not how we populate the highest court in the land. > > 3. Because it’s slimy. That’s why it’s wrong _ethically_, but the question was why it’s wrong _factually_. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22622 "2018-07-10T13:34:13Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He’s the one who is on the record saying the president cannot be indicted. A clarification that I heard on NPR: he thinks the president _can_ be indicted, but that fact is a bug, not a feature. He thinks it would be a very bad thing if it were to happen. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22623 "2018-07-10T13:38:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That’s why it’s wrong _ethically_, but the question was why it’s wrong _factually_. I don’t actually see that in the question. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22624 "2018-07-10T13:39:56Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > A clarification that I heard on NPR: he thinks the president _can_ be indicted, but that fact is a bug, not a feature. He thinks it would be a very bad thing if it were to happen. … sayeth the principal author of the Starr report. > **[As a Novel, Starr Report Doesn't Make the Grade](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-sep-17-ls-23428-story.html)** > > Characters and Content Read Like a 'Cheesy, Cheap Melodrama,' Writers Say [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1130) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1132)