# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1141
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22805 "2018-07-14T17:15:59Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Here’s a [direct link](https://twitter.com/craigtdillon/status/1017806514113925122) to the tweet with the vid. (Notice the relative size of POTUS’ hand versus the -sadly unnamed in the story- Lady in Waiting.) What makes it even better is that she is [the Countess of Airlie, who is actually American!](https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/988777/donald-trump-queen-uk-visit-windsor-castle-video-pictures-melania-trump) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22806 "2018-07-14T17:23:58Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > “I swear, I thought I was posting a GIF on Facebook!” He’s not a good liar at all. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22807 "2018-07-14T17:25:14Z")
The state of Indiana is on the hook for $20 million to clean up the environmental mess left by Mike Pence’s family’s gas stations. > **[Pence family's failed gas stations cost taxpayers $20M+](https://apnews.com/07f9256ae1984362ba3eff192b4d6dd0)** > > GARDEN CITY, Ind. (AP) — Vice President Mike Pence turns nostalgic when he talks about growing up in small-town Columbus, Indiana, where his father helped build a Midwestern empire of more than 200 gas stations that provided an upbringing on the... ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22808 "2018-07-14T17:26:43Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > LOVE It! I’ll bet the Queen \*\*was \*\*in on it! 😃 Even if she wasn’t, I bet she enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22809 "2018-07-14T17:28:12Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Love this. > > But it’s quite sad really. What have we come to? We have a moronic criminal as the President of the United States of America. > > We are joking about it? This ‘man’ needs to be removed from office using the rightful authority of our laws, the constitution and congress. > > The republican led congress is more concerned with getting re-elected, and their pocket books than the laws that they have sworn to uphold. We must all send them a message that we will not stand for this. I feel very sorry for good republicans that truly do their jobs, but we must send a message. And the best way to do so is to not ever vote for a republican until they get their house in order. The few good ones are leaving the party. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22810 "2018-07-14T17:50:39Z")
> [@APB](#): > > What makes it even better is that she is [the Countess of Airlie, who is actually American!](https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/988777/donald-trump-queen-uk-visit-windsor-castle-video-pictures-melania-trump) Born in New Jersey. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22811 "2018-07-14T21:26:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Well, yeah, Cheeto, those wily Russians probably figured it would be easier to interfere with the election is they did it before Election Day. Wait, I thought you were supposed to do it after he was already sworn in, like the deep state conspirators in the FBI did. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22812 "2018-07-15T01:00:24Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Wait, I thought you were supposed to do it after he was already sworn in, like the deep state conspirators in the FBI did. Yes, The Derp State kept the Russia investigation quiet, and yammered about Clinton emails (at the most critical times) because they were all helping Clinton and hated Trump. Yeah right. Comey helped the Oompa Loompa win, and helped sink Clinton. Between Comey and the Russians and Wikileaks and Fox News etc etc … ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22813 "2018-07-15T01:24:58Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > … Comey helped the Oompa Loompa win, and helped sink Clinton… And Trump knew this, as evidenced by his behavior in early 2017. He thought that Comey helped throw the election his way. That’s why he was treating Comey like his new best friend. That’s why he pulled the little #MeToo stunt to trick Comey into a private date in order to put the moves on and pressure him for …loyalty. He though Comey would be all in because he though Comey had violated his professional ethics in order to get him elected. He thought he could control Comey like he did Cohen and make the FBI his private police force. That’s why he felt so betrayed when Comey busted him. And he’s down on the FBI because they refuse to be his personal cops. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22814 "2018-07-15T03:28:21Z")
DHS Chief Kirstjen Nielsen says the Russians are not planning on hacking the fall elections. > **[DHS secretary: No sign Russia targeting midterm elections at 2016 level](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397049-dhs-secretary-no-sign-russia-targeting-midterm-elections-at-levels/)** > > Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Saturday that her agency has not seen levels of Russian interference targeting U.S. midterm elections close to the levels repor… ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22815 "2018-07-15T03:35:53Z")
Once you have paid the Putin-Geld, you never get rid of the Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22816 "2018-07-15T03:36:16Z")
Coming from her, that’s [so reassuring](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/facing-outcry-over-family-separations-dhs-chief-says-we-will-not-apologize/2018/06/18/d1e85466-7305-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.02e6609de35c). (WaPo) > [@](#): > > Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen pushed back Monday at the growing condemnation of her agency’s practice of separating migrant families at the border, telling a gathering of law enforcement officers, “We will not apologize for the job we do.” > > In a speech at the meeting of National Sheriffs’ Association in New Orleans, Nielsen drew rousing applause when she directed her remarks at “a selected few in the media, Congress and the advocacy community” whom she accused of mischaracterizing the Trump administration’s border crackdown. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22817 "2018-07-15T03:39:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > DHS Chief Kirstjen Nielsen says the Russians are not planning on hacking the fall elections. > [http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397049-dhs-secretary-no-sign-russia-targeting-midterm-elections-at-levels](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397049-dhs-secretary-no-sign-russia-targeting-midterm-elections-at-levels) She added this: > [@From Article](#): > > Nielsen added that some level of Russian interference is still present and urged state officials to remain vigilant as some officials have noticed “persistent Russian efforts using social media, sympathetic spokespeople and other fronts to sow discord and divisiveness amongst the American people, though not necessarily focused on specific politicians or political campaigns," according to Time. Whatever that really means. Not focused on politicians or campaigns? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22818 "2018-07-15T09:48:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m still trying to sort out which television appearance was more disturbing, the interview with the Sun or the presser in which he dubbed an American outlet “fake news” and refused to answer questions from them, while exhibiting clear favoritism to the American version of Sputnik international. I’m still peeved that every journalist in the room didn’t get up and walk out. Think about it. If the press doesn’t attend his briefings, if the press doesn’t give him the time of day, that’ll probably give him the conniption fit that’ll finally knock him out of action. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22819 "2018-07-15T09:54:45Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Whatever that really means. Not focused on politicians or campaigns? They’ve occasionally backed and organized both sides on divisive issues in a crude application of the “let’s you and him fight!” gambit. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22820 "2018-07-15T11:05:48Z")
I’m not sure if this has been mentioned already, but they are [deleting](https://www.thedailybeast.com/hhs-plans-to-delete-20-years-of-critical-medical-guidelines-next-week?via=FB_Page&source=TDB) 20 years of “critical medical guidelines”; no archive or backup, they are shutting it down with minimal warning to make sure the data can’t be saved. It’s part of the whole Trump War on Data; like shutting down environmental research. The Right demands ignorance, and the destruction of knowledge; and Trump is willing to give them what they want. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22821 "2018-07-15T11:22:48Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m still peeved that every journalist in the room didn’t get up and walk out. Think about it. If the press doesn’t attend his briefings, if the press doesn’t give him the time of day, that’ll probably give him the conniption fit that’ll finally knock him out of action. Well I’m sure every reporter who works at Sputnik America, er, Fox News knows that they’ll be disciplined if they turn on the Donald. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22822 "2018-07-15T12:25:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I’m not sure if this has been mentioned already, but they are [deleting](https://www.thedailybeast.com/hhs-plans-to-delete-20-years-of-critical-medical-guidelines-next-week?via=FB_Page&source=TDB) 20 years of “critical medical guidelines”; no archive or backup, they are shutting it down with minimal warning to make sure the data can’t be saved. It’s part of the whole Trump War on Data; like shutting down environmental research. > > The Right demands ignorance, and the destruction of knowledge; and Trump is willing to give them what they want. Good grief! Okay, where’s the financial motive in this? There’s a financial motive behind everything this administration does. The overall goal seems to be to turn the USA into a lower-than third world country so our White Overlords can pillage and plunder every source of profit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22823 "2018-07-15T13:14:00Z")
It costs 1.2 million to maintain this database as per the link. What’s that in golf trips? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22824 "2018-07-15T13:22:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Good grief! > > Okay, where’s the financial motive in this? There’s a financial motive behind everything this administration does. > > The overall goal seems to be to turn the USA into a lower-than third world country so our White Overlords can pillage and plunder every source of profit. It’s in the article This guidelines sometimes recommend against treatments that are heavily sold by companies that donors and lobbyists are invested in. A guideline that emphasized non-surgical treatments for back pain pissed off an organization that represents surgeons And there were guideline that were critical of some drug that was manufactured by one of Tom Price’s campaign donors, and they refused to take it down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1140) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1142)