# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1147
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22925 "2018-07-16T20:08:18Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > And now for a small break from teeth-ghashing and banging our heads against the wall: > > [He Is the Very Model of A Very Stable Genius.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A) By Randy Rainbow. Awesome. Sharing with friends. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22926 "2018-07-16T20:10:07Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Tell them their continued inaction in the face of such overwhelming evidence of Trump being compromised by the Russians is wholly unacceptable; that if they fail to act, you will not only be voting against them and all their cohorts in the upcoming elections, but you will make sure that as many of your friends and family members do the same. > > Tell them that they swore an oath to defend their country against all enemies, both foreign _and_ domestic and that you, as their constituent, expect them to honor that oath. > > Tell them that they are not fit to govern in any capacity if they continue to not act on the in-our-faces collusion between Trump and the Russians. > > Tell them you expect them to act and vote in accordance with the things Chuck Shumer called on Congress to do in his public statement made to Congressional Republicans today. > > And tell them their place in history as a traitor to our nation is assured if they now continue to fail to act. > > It’s not hyperbole. It’s the truth. Okay - this helps quite a bit. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22927 "2018-07-16T20:10:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Tell them their continued inaction in the face of such overwhelming evidence of Trump being compromised by the Russians is wholly unacceptable; that if they fail to act, you will not only be voting against them and all their cohorts in the upcoming elections, but you will make sure that as many of your friends and family members do the same. > > Tell them that they swore an oath to defend their country against all enemies, both foreign _and_ domestic and that you, as their constituent, expect them to honor that oath. > > Tell them that they are not fit to govern in any capacity if they continue to not act on the in-our-faces collusion between Trump and the Russians. > > Tell them you expect them to act and vote in accordance with the things Chuck Shumer called on Congress to do in his public statement made to Congressional Republicans today. > > And tell them their place in history as a traitor to our nation is assured if they now continue to fail to act. > > It’s not hyperbole. It’s the truth. I wrote as much in emails this morning after Trump’s press conference. I also wrote that if Obama had said those words, there would have been GOP cries for his head; where were those cries now that Trump actually had said those things? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22928 "2018-07-16T20:12:43Z")
A more minor point from today’s clusterfuck. Trump went after the electoral college again as being biased in favor of Democrats. Now, this is obviously nonsense, but why in the world would the Democrats not embrace that in and “in the interest of fair elections for Republicans” offer to work with Trump to abolish it. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22929 "2018-07-16T20:20:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > A more minor point from today’s clusterfuck. Trump went after the electoral college again as being biased in favor of Democrats. Now, this is obviously nonsense, but why in the world would the Democrats not embrace that in and “in the interest of fair elections for Republicans” offer to work with Trump to abolish it. Twice in the last 5 elections, the Electoral College has differed from the popular vote. In both cases, it did so to the benefit of the Republican candidate. I think Trump’s statement could be used as evidence that Trump is mentally unfit to hold office. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22930 "2018-07-16T20:35:28Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Twice in the last 5 elections, the Electoral College has differed from the popular vote. In both cases, it did so to the benefit of the Republican candidate. > > I think Trump’s statement could be used as evidence that Trump is mentally unfit to hold office. That’s fine and true. But, if he is suggesting that it’s biased against Republicans, why not offer to help him end that bias? It would be hard to refuse that generous offer. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22931 "2018-07-16T20:44:05Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22932 "2018-07-16T20:54:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > A suspended sentence. But death? No, I am a cruel and vindictive person. Take his money, all of it, down to the last dime. Give him a third-story walkup studio apartment with a hotplate, buy his dinner at the Dollar Store. Free medical care, want him to live a long, _long_ time. Oh yeah, I like this plan a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22933 "2018-07-16T21:02:14Z")
I just want to make sure no one misses this: [Did you hear about Putin’s “incredible offer” to Trump?](https://apnews.com/3187ffc2e9d641f19d61e685f3da9dc2/Trump:-Putin-made-'incredible-offer'-in-Russian-hacking-case) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump said Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin privately made an “incredible offer” to help American investigators in their prosecution of 12 Russian intelligence officers accused of hacking crimes during the 2016 presidential election. > > “He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people,” Trump told reporters during a news conference in Helsinki following his joint summit with Putin. “I think that’s an incredible offer, OK?” Are you fucking kidding me? They’re flaunting it across the world… what are we going to do about it? ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22934 "2018-07-16T21:05:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I just want to make sure no one misses this: [Did you hear about Putin’s “incredible offer” to Trump?](https://apnews.com/3187ffc2e9d641f19d61e685f3da9dc2/Trump:-Putin-made-'incredible-offer'-in-Russian-hacking-case)Are you fucking kidding me? They’re flaunting it across the world… what are we going to do about it? Holy Fuck! I thought that would be satirical - I expected to see it link to The Onion… what the fuck? Trump is a goddamned imbecile! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22935 "2018-07-16T21:08:18Z")
Representative Will Hurd is worried: > The above is post 1 of five tweets, one of which is this gem: “I’ve seen Russian intelligence manipulate many people over my professional career and I never would have thought that the US President would become one of the ones getting played by old KGB hands.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22936 "2018-07-16T21:13:28Z")
No collusion, no election meddling, no hacking, but hey, we’ll help you investigate it. And you can trust we will be very thorough. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22937 "2018-07-16T21:19:42Z")
Trump is a straight up dumb motherfucker, and so is every dumb fuck that voted for him. Somehow, he doesn’t visibly drool. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22938 "2018-07-16T21:22:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Representative Will Hurd is worried: > > [https://twitter.com/HurdOnTheHill/status/1018929078706081793](https://twitter.com/HurdOnTheHill/status/1018929078706081793) > > The above is post 1 of five tweets, one of which is this gem: > > “I’ve seen Russian intelligence manipulate many people over my professional career and I never would have thought that the US President would become one of the ones getting played by old KGB hands.” So help me, he seems like a sane enough person… is he really a Texas Republican? :dubious: ETA: I like that a lot of the comments are along the lines of “what are you going to do about it besides tweet?” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22939 "2018-07-16T21:27:57Z")
Sane Texas Republican? About as common as an armadillo teaching calculus to a chicken. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22940 "2018-07-16T21:51:54Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > No collusion, no election meddling, no hacking, but hey, we’ll help you investigate it. And you can trust we will be very thorough. :smack: You know those memes that show a candid photo of a group of politicians, laughing and smiling broadly, with a caption commenting on current events? Picture a group of belly-laughing Russians, with the caption: "…and then I said, “we’ll help you investigate! and he called it an incredible offer!” The hard part will be finding jolly Russians. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22941 "2018-07-16T22:17:24Z")
Joe Walsh: “It’s no longer about what Trump does. It’s about what WE do. This is the time to speak out. This is the time for choosing. America is in danger. Choose country over party. Choose country over policy.” Newt Gingrich: “President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.” Nate Silver: [indent]I think we need a scale for how much trouble Trump is in based on the most ordinarily pro-Trump Republican/conservative who criticizes him. e.g. something like this: 10.0 Hannity 9.9 Pence 9.2 Fox & Friends 8.8 Tucker Carlson 7.5 McConnell 7.0 Laura Ingram 6.8 Gingrich 6.7 Coulter 6.1 Joe Walsh 5.5 DRUDGE 5.0 Paul Ryan 4.8 WSJ Edit Page 4.4 Ben Shapiro 3.6 Graham 2.6 McCain 1.4 Jeff Flake 0.1 Bret Stephens 0.0 Kasich [/indent] > > > Newt Gingrich @newtgingrich > > > Joe Walsh @WalshFreedom ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22942 "2018-07-16T22:21:20Z")
Someone please explain the Nate Silver scale to me (like I’m age 5) WRT “how much trouble Trump is in.” So the fact that Paul Ryan is at 5.0 means what? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22943 "2018-07-16T22:25:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Someone please explain the Nate Silver scale to me (like I’m age 5) WRT “how much trouble Trump is in.” So the fact that Paul Ryan is at 5.0 means what? Nate is measuring Trump’s trouble on a scale of 1 to 10 based on the leanings of the critic. If John Kasich criticizes Trump…that and $5 will get you a latte. If Hannity criticizes Trump, then they must be counting the votes in an impeachment trial. So Trump is currently at 6.1, based on what this Walsh guy just said. Or 6.8, if you count Gingrich’s furrowed brow as “criticism”. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22944 "2018-07-16T22:32:18Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think the difference is that the World War II war criminals did not have 30% of the country thinking that they were not only innocent, but completely infallible as well. If our traitor hangs, you’re going to have a lot of people burning the country down and shooting up the place. You mean, like they effectively already are? The Right is going to keep trying to wreck the country and the world no matter what the rest of us try to do. It’s what they are about: _spite._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1146) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1148)