# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2281 "2017-03-10T21:27:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Some or all of the following: > [ul] > [li]The destruction of our international relations and reputation.[/li][li]The emboldening of violent white supremacists.[/li][li]The destruction of our health care system (and all the deaths that follow).[/li][li]The destruction of our climate.[/li][li]Increased pollution of our air and water.[/li][li]A ruinous trade war.[/li][li]The weakening or even destruction of NATO and subsequent empowerment of Vladimir Putin.[/li][li]The loss of basic human rights, here and abroad.[/li][/ul]I’m sure we can think of lots of other things, but those are some that come to mind. oh ok ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2282 "2017-03-10T21:29:48Z")
The Secretary of Education. **ckalli** better not be in a public university! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2283 "2017-03-10T21:35:52Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > oh ok and for the fact that a sizable percentage of the voters and elected officials of the once-proud country have concluded it is okay for a incompetent buffoon to be elected POTUS. It’s one thing to have policies I oppose, but I accept that such a person will be elected from time to time. What no one could envision is that an aging and senile reality TV show host could worm his way to such a powerful office. It’s deplorable, on many levels. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2284 "2017-03-10T21:41:37Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Please. Are you trying to say that being in a military reserve or on active duty is proof one has a conscience? Have you read nothing about military history? Oh come on. These are American [del]service members[/del] [del]warfighters[/del] heroes we’re talking about. These are not the kind of people who would do [something](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/03/10/how-the-marine-corps-widening-nude-photo-scandal-has-spread-throughout-the-military/?utm_term=.35bfa438aaec) [unconscionable](http://www.trbimg.com/img-5507a9c8/turbine/la-na-abu-ghraib-lawsuit-20150317). ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2285 "2017-03-10T21:44:52Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Oh come on. These are American [del]service members[/del] [del]warfighters[/del] heroes we’re talking about. These are not the kind of people who would do [something](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/03/10/how-the-marine-corps-widening-nude-photo-scandal-has-spread-throughout-the-military/?utm_term=.35bfa438aaec) [unconscionable](http://www.trbimg.com/img-5507a9c8/turbine/la-na-abu-ghraib-lawsuit-20150317). As everyone here damn well knows, Spicer has nothing to do with the escapades of a few mischievous Marines. Their conduct is reprehensible, and they own it, not Spicer. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2286 "2017-03-10T21:46:30Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As everyone here damn well knows, Spicer has nothing to do with the escapades of a few mischievous Marines. Their conduct is reprehensible, and they own it, not Spicer. True enough, and Spicer will have to answer for his conduct too one day. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2287 "2017-03-10T21:47:18Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As everyone here damn well knows, Spicer has nothing to do with the escapades of a few mischievous Marines. Their conduct is reprehensible, and they own it, not Spicer. Sean Spicer was a staffer for Mark Foley. 'nough said. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2288 "2017-03-10T21:51:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sean Spicer was a staffer for Mark Foley. 'nough said. Really? I did not know that. What “position” did Spicer have? Turning the congressional pages? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2289 "2017-03-10T21:52:18Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As everyone here damn well knows, Spicer has nothing to do with the escapades of a few mischievous Marines. Their conduct is reprehensible, and they own it, not Spicer. Officers are always responsible. If you feel he’s not, then his current rank/service are immaterial in his role as Surrogate Liar. ETA: I understand it involves 30,000. Hardly a few. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2290 "2017-03-10T21:53:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Really? I did not know that. > > What “position” did Spicer have? Turning the congressional pages? Bending them over. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2291 "2017-03-10T22:28:38Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Is that so? Tell me, what will I have to answer for, then? Your own refusal to take responsibility for your own wrong actions, plagiarist, as well as deflecting blame for the wrong actions of those you support. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2292 "2017-03-10T22:36:44Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Note to all: That’s not a cookie. Lügenpresse? I thought it was something in the Winter Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2293 "2017-03-10T22:38:15Z")
Trump has named Jon Huntsman to be ambassador to Russia. The same Jon Huntsman Trump called “weak”, and said he let China walk all over him when he was ambassador to China. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2294 "2017-03-10T22:39:34Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Is that so? Tell me, what will I have to answer for, then? Wasting your parents’ money on a college. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2295 "2017-03-10T22:41:41Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > oh ok Say “Hi” to \*\*BlinkyPinkyStinky \*\*for us. Ya fuckin’ sock. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2296 "2017-03-10T22:41:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump has named Jon Huntsman to be ambassador to Russia. The same Jon Huntsman Trump called “weak”, and said he let China walk all over him when he was ambassador to China. Don’t take him so literally when he says someone is terrible, or great, or anything. He was friends with Hillary before she was a “nasty woman.” He hated Obama before he was such a [great guy](http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/trump-praises-obama-231755) (I guess he’s not again) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2297 "2017-03-10T22:45:54Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Is that so? Tell me, what will I have to answer for, then? For thems what talk like that, I have no other response. My church, unlike me, is not judgemental. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2298 "2017-03-10T23:16:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Say “Hi” to \*\*BlinkyPinkyStinky \*\*for us. Ya fuckin’ sock. How many times do I have to tell you I’m not a “sock” of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2299 "2017-03-10T23:17:35Z")
Did somebody say something? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2300 "2017-03-10T23:30:00Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > How many times do I have to tell you I’m not a “sock” of anyone. Given how many times you minimized your plagiarism, I recommend shutting up about not being a sock. If you want people to stop disparaging you then contribute to discussions outside of the Pit. And for goodness sake start citing your sources. It’s **good** to be well-read. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=116)