# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1150
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22985 "2018-07-17T02:24:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Why do you people keep talking to this guy?? LOL. Don’t you have a critique of some Vietnam documentary to be all butt-hurt about? Why don’t you focus on that for tonight? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22986 "2018-07-17T02:26:35Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Stupidity like this got Trump elected in the first place. Funny, I thought it was lack of Democrat-voting citizens. I must be mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22987 "2018-07-17T02:29:16Z")
Looks like Manson got seriously butthurt by the bully pulpit when he was about 7yo. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22988 "2018-07-17T02:30:27Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Blah Blah. Let me know when something bad happens instead of just talk. I already listed a few of them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22989 "2018-07-17T02:41:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [What the fuck is going on in Afghanistan? 😕](https://apnews.com/6bcb513db3454957b78b082d97aa408e/US-open-to-direct-talks-with-Taliban,-officials-say)Is this administration about to cave in to some terrorist demands? Seriously? :eek: I, for one, am looking forward to Trump’s summit with the leader of the Taliban. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22990 "2018-07-17T02:42:48Z")
Although I cannot help but think of them as deluded fools, I can at least sympathize somewhat with the MAGA-heads who apparently feel in such danger of being left by the roadside of a changing society that they would pin all their hopes for a viable future on Donald Fucking Trump. After Trump’s ludicrous performance today in Helsinki, however, how, at long last, can even the most sincere Trump fanboi seriously support this absolute fucking chowderhead? What possible benefit to US interests and security could possibly be served by ignoring a large, clear and growing body of evidence that Russia carried out multiple covert operations intended to help throw the election to Trump? Surely the answer has to be none. I’m not necessarily going to join the Treason train, but at this point the most charitable spin one could possibly put on this is that Trump is so pathetically insecure about the slimness of his election victory that he simply cannot admit to even a remote possibility that some part of his vote was not earned legitimately. It does seem far more likely, however, that there is something else more serious and sinister going on here. Shaking my head, till my eyes rattle. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22991 "2018-07-17T02:43:07Z")
Yes, these: -tariffs are going to reduce economic expansion -the tax cut is reducing real wages by about 2% this year And yes, that’s horrible. Horrible things that have happened. In the meantime, Trump has said 1000s of moronic things. And people keep running here “Oh no, Trump said something horrible!” Complain about actual things that happened, not the idiotic statements of a buffoon, that’s all I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22992 "2018-07-17T02:49:12Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > So I tried to watch a couple minutes of Hannity (the most I can ever take) to see how he was spinning this for the deplorables. Made it maybe 30 seconds. But I did notice something. He was wearing a really long tie. What a fucking tool. Oh, and he was talking about how Obama once said our elections could never be hacked. Case closed. FYI - I posted an earlier version of this in another thread. I watched a little bit, too. I didn’t make it through 10 minutes though. I caught the end of Hannity, it was pretty much all harping about the DNC server thing by then. And some nasty stuff about Strzok and Page But he and Laura Instagram- I can’t remember her name and I can’t be arsed to look it up - seem to be promoting the story that Trump was big and strong and forceful with Putin during the private meeting, and made it clear that he needed to stop the cyberwarfare. And he made it clear that he, Donald J Trump, was the boss and this country is a safer place tonight because of the resolute strength and shining brilliance exhibited by Donald Trump during the private meeting. Then, because he’s a charming and gracious man, Trump immediately went up on stage and let Putin mount and fuck him like a dog while he (Trump) blithered like an idiot about Hillary and her servers, then praised the idea of turning over an innocent American citizen to Russia’s secret police. The whole act was cleverly devised as a reward to Putin for taking his sound spanking from Trump like a man. Trump let Putin come out as the public winner because he’s a brilliant strategist and a kind man. Then they turned to the bias of the left. Obama was nice to Putin and no one ever accused him of treason. Then they played a montage of clips of Obama talking to Putin without hitting him as proof of their rightness. Then I turned off the TV. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22993 "2018-07-17T02:57:30Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > … > After Trump’s ludicrous performance today in Helsinki, however, how, at long last, can even the most sincere Trump fanboi seriously support this absolute fucking chowderhead? What possible benefit to US interests and security could possibly be served by ignoring a large, clear and growing body of evidence that Russia carried out multiple covert operations intended to help throw the election to Trump? Surely the answer has to be none. > > … You ask a perfectly reasonable question. And yet this man is hardly a MAGAbot: > [@Gollu](#): > > [Vice Pres. Pence praises Trump-Putin summit: “Disagreements between our countries were discussed at length, but what the world saw, what the American people saw, is that Pres. Donald Trump will always put the prosperity and security of America first.”](https://www.mediaite.com/online/vp-mike-pence-on-putin-summit-trumps-putting-prosperity-and-security-of-america-first/) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22994 "2018-07-17T03:10:27Z")
Trump’s schedule for tomorrow has a single item: a meeting with members of Congress at 2:00 PM. No one seems to know what the topic of the meeting is. > ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22995 "2018-07-17T03:24:59Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Trump’s schedule for tomorrow has a single item: a meeting with members of Congress at 2:00 PM. No one seems to know what the topic of the meeting is. > > [https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19](https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19) The topic of the meeting is “enjoy these photos of yourself and this Novichok tea.” ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22996 "2018-07-17T03:29:43Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I, for one, am looking forward to Trump’s summit with the leader of the Taliban. Hey, we can take that fake picture of Reagan, swap in Trump, and it’ll actually be accurate. Quick and easy. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22997 "2018-07-17T03:39:08Z")
Oooh, brutal even by New York Daily News standards: [**OPEN TREASON**](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/397341-ny-daily-news-cover-shows-trump-shooting-uncle-sam-in-the-head) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22998 "2018-07-17T03:42:49Z")
What else can we call it? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/22999 "2018-07-17T03:45:45Z")
Outside of Hannity and the hard core deplorables, is _anyone_ praising Trump’s performance today? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23000 "2018-07-17T03:46:17Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Blah Blah. Let me know when something bad happens instead of just talk. And one more fuckstick for the “Ignore” list. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23001 "2018-07-17T03:48:55Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Only 4 years, he says. The American Civil War lasted 4 years. World War I lasted 4 years. US participation in World War II lasted 4 years. > > Only 4 years. Such a short time, nothing bad could happen in that period. And no aftermath at all. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23002 "2018-07-17T03:50:56Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Outside of Hannity and the hard core deplorables, is _anyone_ praising Trump’s performance today? You mean besides Pence? > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Gollu > Vice Pres. Pence praises Trump-Putin summit: “Disagreements between our countries were discussed at length, but what the world saw, what the American people saw, is that Pres. Donald Trump will always put the prosperity and security of America first.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23003 "2018-07-17T04:00:08Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Trump’s schedule for tomorrow has a single item: a meeting with members of Congress at 2:00 PM. No one seems to know what the topic of the meeting is. > > [https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19](https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19) Orderly transfer of legislative power to the Duma? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23004 "2018-07-17T04:29:58Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Trump’s schedule for tomorrow has a single item: a meeting with members of Congress at 2:00 PM. No one seems to know what the topic of the meeting is. > > [https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19](https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19) The Major League Baseball All Star Game is in Washington. Trump won’t be going there. I think it’s the first time a President hasn’t gone to an All Star Game that was being held in Washington. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1149) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1151)