# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23005 "2018-07-17T04:30:00Z")

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Here’s another good word salad for you:

> [@Trump](#):
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> Frankly, I’m going to let the president speak to the second part of your question. But, just to say it one time again and I say it all the time, there was no collusion. I didn’t know the president. There was nobody to colluded with. There was no collusion with the campaign. Every time you hear all of these 12 and 14 — it’s stuff that has nothing to do — and frankly, they admit, these are not people involved in the campaign. But to the average reader out there, they are saying, well maybe that does. It doesn’t. Even the people involved, some perhaps told mis-stories. In one case the FBI said there was no lie. There was no lie. Somebody else said there was. We ran a brilliant campaign. And that’s why I’m president. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23006 "2018-07-17T04:38:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Major League Baseball All Star Game is in Washington. Trump won’t be going there. I think it’s the first time a President hasn’t gone to an All Star Game that was being held in Washington.

Well of course. If he went, no doubt he’d be expected to throw out the first pitch, and those tiny hands would likely make it too difficult to grip the ball properly.

Yeah, cheap shot, I know. I’m sending myself to bed without dessert.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23007 "2018-07-17T04:43:19Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Is it? How are we worse off now then we were last night?

For those who just tuned in, Trump had a meeting with the leader of a hostile foreign power. Without any of his advisors present: he barred them all. There’s no good reason to do this from the perspective of US national security. No innocent justification.

What deals did Trump cut, alone? What is Putin’s next plan?

Afterwards, he had a press conference demonstrating that he was beholden to Putin: the dictator has some king of hold on the US President. It’s not really about Trump’s refusal to, “Hold Putin accountable.” It’s about his inability to, his clear susceptibility to blackmail due to his past indiscretions. No, I’m not thinking about Stormy or even the pee tape. I’m thinking about Trump’s reliance on dirty Russian money after US banks would no longer lend to him. If Russian intelligence is halfway competent (they are) they have a dossier which can send Trump and members of his family to jail. Money laundering is a crime.

Congress has the constitutional power to put things right. They could subpoena Trump’s tax returns and get to the bottom of this. McConnell, Ryan and the Republican heads of various committees have blocked investigation at every turn.

Alleged critics such as Senator Flake could cross aisles and arrange bipartisan oversight, like the founding father’s intended in such a circumstance. They won’t.

America is being led by a representative of a hostile foreign power. The Republican party hasn’t cared and doesn’t care. Nor do their donors. Nor does the US corporate elite. If this is to be put right, it must happen this November.

“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23008 "2018-07-17T04:51:21Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Trump’s schedule for tomorrow has a single item: a meeting with members of Congress at 2:00 PM. No one seems to know what the topic of the meeting is.
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> [https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19](https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1019001517767122947?s=19)

Private screening of the pee tape?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23009 "2018-07-17T04:58:51Z")

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Gee, I dunno. Putin has such an honest face, and why would he lie about something like this?

I hope no further proof is needed as to Chump being a 100% genuine, died-in-the-wool traitor, as is your average Republican anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23010 "2018-07-17T04:59:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Major League Baseball All Star Game is in Washington. Trump won’t be going there. I think it’s the first time a President hasn’t gone to an All Star Game that was being held in Washington.

Ike skipped it in '56, [but he was recovering from surgery.](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/MLB-All-Star-Game-History-Washington-DC-487688611.html)

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23011 "2018-07-17T05:04:41Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Why are the Republicans not leading the charge to impeach him? He is quite literally destroying them. Every time he opens his mouth he does damage to this country, its long-standing alliances, and its standing in the world. Pence would at least be predictable.

Trump’s approval ratings have flattened out at around 42%. Among self-identified Republican voters, it’s consistently north of 85%. So most Republican congressman sit on their hands, revealing that their alleged hawkishness is based on tribalism, not concept or principle.

The puzzle is why Flake or McCain or Collins or Graham or hell Lamar Alexander never took advantage of the razor thin majority and joined the Democrats in voting for …once routine bipartisan congressional oversight. Past Presidents haven’t hidden their taxes. Past Presidents divested themselves of things like, oh, hotels located in Washington DC that are frequented by foreign dictators.

Cut the Gordian knot: there are no Republican moderates left. The GOP is beholden to the far right and the far right is shamelessly beholden to extremists of the electronic media and the least enlightened members of the top 1%. They know they can win over neither public nor expert with their ideas: all they have left is a grab-bag of electoral hacks.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23012 "2018-07-17T05:21:01Z")

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The news is speculating Traitor Chump, winging his way back to Washington, may not even be aware yet about the reaction to his Helsinki press conference. What, Air Force One can’t pick up the Internet or radio or anything?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23013 "2018-07-17T05:23:50Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> The news is speculating Traitor Chump, winging his way back to Washington, may not even be aware yet about the reaction to his Helsinki press conference. What, Air Force One can’t pick up the Internet or radio or anything?

I still think all the bad press is hidden from him, except for a few that F&F mention in his morning briefing. The front page of any website would send him on a tirade, hopefully one big enough to give him a heart attack. (Don’t worry, he’ll survive… the BIGGEST heart attack in history!)

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23014 "2018-07-17T05:23:56Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Outside of Hannity and the hard core deplorables, is _anyone_ praising Trump’s performance today?

Putin’s probably happy with it.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23015 "2018-07-17T05:25:33Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I still think all the bad press is hidden from him, except for a few that F&F mention in his morning briefing. The front page of any website would send him on a tirade, hopefully one big enough to give him a heart attack. (Don’t worry, he’ll survive… the BIGGEST heart attack in history!)

No frickin’ way. He sees this stuff on TV himself. That’s all he does is watch TV and play golf. And screw porn stars. (Hey, how do _I_ become President?)

> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Putin’s probably happy with it.

And Sergei Lavrov. He was positively orgasmic,

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23016 "2018-07-17T05:32:09Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Funny, I thought it was lack of Democrat-voting citizens. I must be mistaken.

You’re in full troll mode so I’m sure it doesn’t matter to you if you’re correct or not, just that you get a response.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23017 "2018-07-17T05:45:40Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Complain about actual things that happened, not the idiotic statements of a buffoon, that’s all I’m saying.

So, you’re saying you don’t want people to discuss your posts?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23018 "2018-07-17T05:46:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> You’re in full troll mode so I’m sure it doesn’t matter to you if you’re correct or not, just that you get a response.

I would urge you not to feed the trolls. (And not to show quotes from slime I have on Ignore.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23019 "2018-07-17T05:49:24Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Outside of Hannity and the hard core deplorables, is _anyone_ praising Trump’s performance today?

I work with a guy who is completely convinced that Trump is still riding to the rescue of America. He’s Floridian.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23020 "2018-07-17T05:55:22Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Orderly transfer of legislative power to the Duma?

Fits very well with Post #22960.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23021 "2018-07-17T08:15:23Z")

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FFS, folks, stop responding to such idiocy. Manson1972 goes on ignore, okay?

Done.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23022 "2018-07-17T09:15:37Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I work with a guy who is completely convinced that Trump is still riding to the rescue of America. He’s Floridian.

Ah, Florida Man strikes again.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23023 "2018-07-17T09:53:45Z")

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Imagine Trumpoltroon handing 9-11: “I spoke to Osama. He says he didn’t do it.”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23024 "2018-07-17T10:06:03Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Ah, Florida Man strikes again.

[Cap]I understood that reference ![/Cap]

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