# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1152
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23025 "2018-07-17T11:12:36Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Imagine Trumpoltroon handing 9-11: “I spoke to Osama. He says he didn’t do it.” Or Philippine Petain: “I spoke to Hitler. He says he didn’t invade us.” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23026 "2018-07-17T11:14:06Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > America is being led by a representative of a hostile foreign power. The Republican party hasn’t cared and doesn’t care. Nor do their donors. Nor does the US corporate elite. It’s not that Republicans are traitors, they have just decided treason is not a deal breaker. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23027 "2018-07-17T11:22:38Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It’s not that Republicans are traitors, they have just decided treason is not a deal breaker. Overt facilitation of treason is still treason. Unless you get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23028 "2018-07-17T11:26:01Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It’s not that Republicans are traitors, they have just decided treason is not a deal breaker. And y’all _laughed_ at me in my pit thread when I said Republicans were destroying America. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23029 "2018-07-17T11:43:59Z")
Trump is so thin skinned, and this criticism so strong, that he should be in full on Twitter tantrum mode now. Has there been a single tweet yet lashing out at the deep state for undermining him? If not, it sounds like his people have hidden his phone. They may realize how dangerous his place is and that it will take a concerted effort to fix. They can’t keep his phone forever, sooner or later Trump will derail their plans. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23030 "2018-07-17T11:55:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > So the point is that Congressional Pubs aren’t really all that upset at all? They’re just waiting for Fox to tell them what to say. > [@](#): > > I guess the fact that some are not at zero is good. Only the ones who aren’t running for re-election and don’t have to worry about holding the Deplorable vote. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23031 "2018-07-17T11:56:54Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Outside of Hannity and the hard core deplorables, is _anyone_ praising Trump’s performance today? I just went to the Fox News site and the only 2 people that seemed to be okay with Trump were Hannity (no surprise) and Rand Paul (big surprise). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23032 "2018-07-17T12:00:15Z")
Can we start calling him Ofvlad? Picture him in a red dress and white bonnet. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23033 "2018-07-17T12:07:23Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I just went to the Fox News site and the only 2 people that seemed to be okay with Trump were Hannity (no surprise) and Rand Paul (big surprise). Nah, Rand Paul is no big surprise, really. He tends to take the view that America should have no world enemies and that we should just bring our entire military home and let other people patrol the seas, and if Russia or China invade half a continent, well, it’s not necessarily our job to stop them. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23034 "2018-07-17T12:10:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Can we start calling him Ofvlad? Picture him in a red dress and white bonnet. One of the protest signs in Britain referred to him as “[Ofputin](https://goo.gl/images/pLq9U3)”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23035 "2018-07-17T12:10:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Can we start calling him Ofvlad? Picture him in a red dress and white bonnet. From the demonstrations in England: > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [Here it is.](https://twitter.com/liselm17/status/1018174816308772864) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23036 "2018-07-17T12:19:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You mean besides Pence? I count him among the hardcore deplorables. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23037 "2018-07-17T12:29:07Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yes, these: > > -tariffs are going to reduce economic expansion > -the tax cut is reducing real wages by about 2% this year > > And yes, that’s horrible. Horrible things that have happened. In the meantime, Trump has said 1000s of moronic things. And people keep running here “Oh no, Trump said something horrible!” Complain about actual things that happened, not the idiotic statements of a buffoon, that’s all I’m saying. But before he did those things, he said those things. Maybe we should have complained louder when he was just SAYING idiotic things about trade wars and tax cuts? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23038 "2018-07-17T13:24:29Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > > > The news is speculating Traitor Chump, winging his way back to Washington, may not even be aware yet about the reaction to his Helsinki press conference. What, Air Force One can’t pick up the Internet or radio or anything? > > I still think all the bad press is hidden from him, except for a few that F&F mention in his morning briefing. The front page of any website would send him on a tirade, hopefully one big enough to give him a heart attack. (Don’t worry, he’ll survive… the BIGGEST heart attack in history!) Oh, he knows. And the outrage from the lamestream media is music to his teenytiny ears. Incidentally, am I the only one who gets the impression that CFSG has been hitting the fake ‘n’ bake a little too much? Not only is the color getting worse (didn’t think that would be possible), but the pale area around his eyes where the UV goggles sit is getting more pronounced. Makes him look even more like a deer caught in the headlights. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23039 "2018-07-17T13:39:14Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > But before he did those things, he said those things. Maybe we should have complained louder when he was just SAYING idiotic things about trade wars and tax cuts? Exactly wrong. We should have been nicer. Not “idiotic things”, just say that these are novel and original ideas that require study. If our economy burns up, falls over and sinks in the swamp, that _may_ be evidence we can consider as we move forward. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23040 "2018-07-17T13:42:18Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > What do I say to Senators/Representatives that are Pro Trump? It is my Senators/Representatives that are enabling this orange filth. > > I would love to send a letter (not email or phone call) to my republican “leadership”, but the task of word-smithing such a letter is daunting. I started a thread about this. Thanks for the idea! [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21090663#post21090663](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21090663#post21090663) ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23041 "2018-07-17T13:58:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Exactly wrong. We should have been nicer. Not “idiotic things”, just say that these are novel and original ideas that require study. If our economy burns up, falls over and sinks in the swamp, that _may_ be evidence we can consider as we move forward. America will build a new economy. And that one will stay up, and that’s what you’re going to get. The strongest economy in all of England. … Hmmm, something’s not quite right there. … Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23042 "2018-07-17T14:13:33Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Incidentally, am I the only one who gets the impression that CFSG has been hitting the fake ‘n’ bake a little too much? Not only is the color getting worse (didn’t think that would be possible), but the pale area around his eyes where the UV goggles sit is getting more pronounced. Makes him look even more like a deer caught in the headlights. You’re not the only one, it hit me too. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23043 "2018-07-17T14:39:15Z")
I don’t have a link to the full statement, but NPR’s Moscow correspondent Lucian Kim [tweeted](https://twitter.com/Lucian_Kim/status/1019223013110272001): > [@Lucian Kim](#): > > Breaking: Russian MoD says in statement that it’s ready to implement agreement on international security Putin and Trump reached in Helsinki. and > [@Lucian Kim](#): > > Russian MoD says it’s “ready to activate contacts with US colleagues via general staffs and other existing communication channels to discuss extending Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, cooperation in Syria, other current issues of ensuring military security.” Uh, _what agreement?!_ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23044 "2018-07-17T14:55:36Z")
That’s what today’s meeting with Congress is about: to announce the deal he signed giving away our sovereignty. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1153)