# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1153
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23045 "2018-07-17T14:58:41Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > So, you’re saying you don’t want people to discuss your posts? I thought this was the Pit, a place where no discussion is necessary, just one-offs about whatever is bothering you? I’d be more than happy to discuss actual things that have happened, and not “Ooooooh, Trump just said something outrageous!” like it hasn’t happened 10000 times since the inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23046 "2018-07-17T15:00:51Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > But before he did those things, he said those things. Maybe we should have complained louder when he was just SAYING idiotic things about trade wars and tax cuts? Why? You think your incessant complaining on a message board would have stopped trade wars and tax cuts? Things that he friggin said before he was even elected? “Waaaaaahhhhh! Trump’s doing the things he said he was going to do when he was running for President. People will SURELY wake up now!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23047 "2018-07-17T15:01:32Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I don’t have a link to the full statement, but NPR’s Moscow correspondent Lucian Kim [tweeted](https://twitter.com/Lucian_Kim/status/1019223013110272001): > > and > Uh, _what agreement?!_ The agreement they reached during their double-secret makeout session. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23048 "2018-07-17T15:07:16Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Why? You think your incessant complaining on a message board would have stopped trade wars and tax cuts? Things that he friggin said before he was even elected? > > “Waaaaaahhhhh! Trump’s doing the things he said he was going to do when he was running for President. People will SURELY wake up now!” :rolleyes: … sez a guy whining on a message board. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23049 "2018-07-17T15:08:38Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Why? You think your incessant complaining on a message board would have stopped trade wars and tax cuts? Things that he friggin said before he was even elected? Not this message board by itself, no. But enough people complaining everywhere does have an effect. That’s how we stopped the outright repeal of Obamacare. Of course I’m sure you realize that, and that’s why you don’t want us to complain about things until they are done. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23050 "2018-07-17T15:09:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > … sez a guy whining on a message board. Strange definition of whining you must have. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23051 "2018-07-17T15:11:39Z")
Not really, but you keep believing that. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23052 "2018-07-17T15:13:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not really, but you keep believing that. Will do! \*Thumbs up! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23053 "2018-07-17T15:36:25Z")
It is odd to come onto a place designed for interacting with people and whine that they’re interacting. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23054 "2018-07-17T16:39:39Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > That’s what today’s meeting with Congress is about: to announce the deal he signed giving away our sovereignty. Nah, probably just Alaska. Then Sarah Palin really _will_ be able to see Russia from her house. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23055 "2018-07-17T17:01:28Z")
Yeah… [this](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-groups/u-s-move-to-protect-dark-money-donors-raises-russia-concerns-idUSKBN1K727L?il=0) doesn’t seem like a good idea right now. Or ever. > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Treasury Department decision to safeguard the identities of so-called “dark money” donors to politically active nonprofit groups spawned warnings on Tuesday that the policy could inadvertently aid foreign actors, including Russia. > > The Trump administration’s Treasury said on Monday it will no longer require certain tax-exempt groups to disclose the identities of their donors to the Internal Revenue Service. > > The move was hailed by Republican lawmakers as a win for free speech. The conservative political group FreedomWorks urged Congress to enact legislation that would codify the policy change to prevent its reversal by a future administration. > > Democrats criticized the change as a setback for election transparency at a time of high tension over Russia’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23056 "2018-07-17T17:04:23Z")
Trump vs. Clinton: [You’re the puppet!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq8f8oU9wYs) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23057 "2018-07-17T17:17:47Z")
Lock him up! Lock him up! ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23058 "2018-07-17T17:27:18Z")
I don’t know what anyone is so upset about. Did anyone expect that a Trump-Putin meeting would turn out _well?_ ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23059 "2018-07-17T17:28:21Z")
Remember when conservatives used any semblance of a coincidence to link liberals to communists? Remember the broad brush they used to label any socialist-leaning statement to be irrefutable proof that their intention is to destroy America and American values? Remember how they looked under every creaky floorboard for some kind of way to label opponents with the RED SCARE? Well now Trump has been blatantly obvious about his preference for Putin. No closed-door meetings required. No missing or incriminating emails. No cloaks and daggers. Trump is waving his little hands, strings pulled by puppeteer Putin, and the conservatives still murmur about Hilary’s emails. They don’t have the spine to stand against him because they’re afraid for their own professional lives. They’re just going to wait for the mid-terms and slink back to their little holes. They’ll appear on Fox & Friends and bitch about political correctness in front of audiences too stupid to recognize outright traitors. Putin won. ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23060 "2018-07-17T17:30:28Z")
Presser on the lawn @ 2pm today. Resignation? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23061 "2018-07-17T17:30:34Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I don’t know what anyone is so upset about. Did anyone expect that a Trump-Putin meeting would turn out _well?_ Well yeah, Putin. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23062 "2018-07-17T17:39:15Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I don’t know what anyone is so upset about. Did anyone expect that a Trump-Putin meeting would turn out _well?_ Apparently not, this [Fox News columnist (?)](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/17/liz-peek-trump-critics-predictably-melt-down-over-helsinki-summit.html) says: > [@](#): > > Did anyone really expect Trump to declare the Russian leader a liar on global TV? What would have been the point of traveling to Helsinki and arranging a summit between the world’s two biggest nuclear powers, only to scuttle the chance at a new and improved relationship? I believe that’s called a false dichotomy. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23063 "2018-07-17T17:43:37Z")
It was in the bag that the Orange Mess was Putin’s puppet when he agreed to a meeting in Helsinki in the first place. Why meet with someone who murders his own citizens and is subject to tons of US sanctions-- Oh, never mind. So is Kim Jon Un. Our first president who thinks dictators are cool. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23064 "2018-07-17T17:53:51Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I don’t know what anyone is so upset about. Did anyone expect that a Trump-Putin meeting would turn out _well?_ Well, not well, but not a disaster of epic proportions - just a regular disaster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1152) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1154)