# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1154
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23065 "2018-07-17T18:04:47Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Yeah… [this](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-groups/u-s-move-to-protect-dark-money-donors-raises-russia-concerns-idUSKBN1K727L?il=0) doesn’t seem like a good idea right now. Or ever. So, just to be clear, not only should I be able to “say” whatever I want in support of my political candidate (note: in this context “say” means “give someone lots of money”), but nobody should be able to know I “said” what I “said”, even the police. Man, it’s almost as if treating massive back-channel donations of cash as “speech” is kinda fucked up, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23066 "2018-07-17T18:05:09Z")
[GOP blocks House vote condemning Trump’s words in Helsinki](https://apnews.com/7253376c57944826848f7a0bf45282a6/The-Latest:-House-GOP-blocks-measure-to-condemn-Trump). > [@](#): > > By 230-183, the House rejected a Democratic measure endorsing Speaker Paul Ryan’s remarks criticizing Russia. The Wisconsin Republican said “there is no question” Russia interfered in the elections and said there is “no moral equivalence” between the two countries. > > The two-page Democratic proposal summarized Ryan’s points and said the House “expresses its agreement” with them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23067 "2018-07-17T18:07:07Z")
“We endorse what your leader said!” “We don’t!” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23068 "2018-07-17T18:17:49Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well yeah, Putin. And Trump, too, I suppose. I guess that’s two. We can probably add **Silver lining** , **octopus** , and given the subject matter at hand, **WillFarnaby** , so we’re up to nearly a half-dozen. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23069 "2018-07-17T18:19:55Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Oh, he knows. And the outrage from the lamestream media is music to his teenytiny ears. > > Incidentally, am I the only one who gets the impression that CFSG has been hitting the fake ‘n’ bake a little too much? Not only is the color getting worse (didn’t think that would be possible), but the pale area around his eyes where the UV goggles sit is getting more pronounced. Makes him look even more like a deer caught in the headlights. I thought the exact came thing, like he was getting a touchup before his date with Vlad. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23070 "2018-07-17T18:20:18Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > Presser on the lawn @ 2pm today. Resignation? 😃 Well, I’m resigned to the fact that the United States won’t be a real democracy anymore within the next five years. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23071 "2018-07-17T18:27:03Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > Presser on the lawn @ 2pm today. Resignation? 😃 Did Trump just not show up? I saw a live feed from Politico on Facebook, that said “Trump is giving remarks after his widely criticized meeting with Putin,” and referenced that Trump would speak shortly. A bunch of mealy-mouthed senators were speaking, and then it just ended. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23072 "2018-07-17T18:30:10Z")
Aye; nothing at all on the AP. When I search the internet, I get nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23073 "2018-07-17T18:37:27Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Why are the Republicans not leading the charge to impeach him? He is quite literally destroying them. Rome wasn’t burnt in a day. Interestingly though, [the power of incumbency has declined](https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1019275293830385664) to some extent recently. But safe seats are still pretty safe. In Senate: (numbers are approximate) 7 Dem battleground 5 GOP battleground 3 safe GOP 14? safe Dem In House of Reps ~53/435 are battleground. Great majority of remaining are safe. Count 'em yourself here: [United States Congress elections, 2018 - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Congress_elections,_2018) > [@](#): > > Every time he opens his mouth he does damage to this country, its long-standing alliances, and its standing in the world. Pence would at least be predictable. To the GOP leadership, this is a non-issue. Cite: [https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1019284144566820865](https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1019284144566820865) [INDENT]Sen Burr leaves GOP Policy luncheon, says Russia/Putin-Trump Summit didn’t come up. Asked why not, considering how many republicans came out against Trump’s comments yesterday, Burr said, “I don’t know, you’d have to ask them, I was just there eating…” [/INDENT] I wouldn’t say Trump is unpredictable though. He favored Putin during the election after all, and has shown himself to be a mercantilist, favoring the US’s enemies over its long term friends. [An analysis of Trump’s foreign policy is here](https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576716/trump-putin-meeting-literally). > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It’s not that Republicans are traitors, they have just decided treason is not a deal breaker. For the GOP Congress, yes: see citation above, as well as earlier comment about refusal to subpoena Trump’s tax returns. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23074 "2018-07-17T18:46:26Z")
Big surprise: [President Trump: ‘I accept’ US intelligence conclusions on Russian meddling](http://abc7ny.com/politics/president-trump-i-accept-us-intel-on-russian-meddling/3775599/) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23075 "2018-07-17T18:48:38Z")
AP Breaking News banner: > [@](#): > > Trump says ‘I accept’ US intelligence agencies conclusions on Russian meddling . Donald Trump is the weakest POTUS this country has ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23076 "2018-07-17T18:52:22Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Big surprise: > > [President Trump: ‘I accept’ US intelligence conclusions on Russian meddling](http://abc7ny.com/politics/president-trump-i-accept-us-intel-on-russian-meddling/3775599/) He ‘misspoke’ - apparently multiple times, but this time, its ‘differnt’. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump says he meant the opposite when he said in Helsinki that he doesn’t see why Russia would have interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections. > > Back at the White House on Tuesday, the president told reporters that he said he meant he doesn’t see why Russia “wouldn’t” be responsible. > > He also said he accepts the American intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia interfered in the election, but he denied that his campaign had colluded in the effort. You know - its pretty bad when you can see the stink rising from him as he continues to spout bullshit after bullshit lie. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23077 "2018-07-17T19:01:23Z")
> [@simster](#): > > He ‘misspoke’ - apparently multiple times, but this time, its ‘differnt’. > > You know - its pretty bad when you can see the stink rising from him as he continues to spout bullshit after bullshit lie. [Okay](https://imgur.com/a/u7VetbY). Even the pod people who inhabit his body can’t keep their stories straight. He better be careful. A mad Vlad may do something bad. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23078 "2018-07-17T19:01:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > He ‘misspoke’ - apparently multiple times, but this time, its ‘differnt’. > > You know - its pretty bad when you can see the stink rising from him as he continues to spout bullshit after bullshit lie. He meant steamed hams! ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23079 "2018-07-17T19:03:12Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Big surprise: > > [President Trump: ‘I accept’ US intelligence conclusions on Russian meddling](http://abc7ny.com/politics/president-trump-i-accept-us-intel-on-russian-meddling/3775599/) The headline of this may be misleading. I can’t seem to get a stable video connection at work to watch the presser, but Seth Abramson is live-tweeting it with comments like: "[Oh god](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1019295260407681024)… he’s pathological. He read from his script about accepting intel community findings and then IMMEDIATELY went off-script and said “or it could have been other people.” “[These early hot takes](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1019291818448556032) on Trump’s sorry-not-sorry announcement are TERRIBLE. Trump is NOT accepting the finding of his intel community when he is saying “other people” besides Russia might have attacked us in 2016 and is REFUSING to offer ANY condemnation of Putin and his actions.” “[Headlines like this](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1019290464485347328)are going to have to be rewritten because the CONTENT of Trump’s statement does NOT match the intelligence community’s findings AT ALL.” in reference to: “[BREAKING: Trump](https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1019288509755150336) says ‘I accept’ US intelligence agencies conclusions on Russian meddling.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23080 "2018-07-17T19:04:01Z")
“I accept that it was Russia…and also maybe some others.” He just can’t fucking stop his mouth. And of course he has to blame Obama. And his “explanation” doesn’t cover why he followed his statement with his comment about Putin’s strong denial. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23081 "2018-07-17T19:09:29Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “I accept that it was Russia…and also maybe some others.” He just can’t fucking stop his mouth. And of course he has to blame Obama. And his “explanation” doesn’t cover why he followed his statement with his comment about Putin’s strong denial. [Maybe this would help.](https://goo.gl/images/hv9KQX) If he makes Vlad mad, here come the pee tapes. ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23082 "2018-07-17T19:10:42Z")
He apparently said he was [negotiating with Russia](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1019296355305644032)? OVER WHAT?!? ON WHAT?!? Its been a big joke about Alaska having to learn Russian and all, but did that really freaking happen? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23083 "2018-07-17T19:11:59Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “I accept that it was Russia…and also maybe some others.” He just can’t fucking stop his mouth. And of course he has to blame Obama. And his “explanation” doesn’t cover why he followed his statement with his comment about Putin’s strong denial. So Russia and others interfered with a fair election. That what you mean trump? The others being your crime family and people that where running his campaign. Got it. Now resign. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23084 "2018-07-17T19:12:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [Maybe this would help.](https://goo.gl/images/hv9KQX) > > If he makes Vlad mad, here come the pee tapes. Sadly, at this point, I think even if “pee tapes” came out, he’d be sitting at 42% approval. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1153) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1155)