# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1169
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23365 "2018-07-23T10:26:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Сколько рублей в час они платят вам, чтобы написать эту ерунду? It’s a good job, plus you get to keep all your limbs and family members, and you can have all the polonium you can eat! ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23366 "2018-07-23T10:31:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s a good job, plus you get to keep all your limbs and family members, and you can have all the polonium you can eat! In Russia, polonium eats YOU! 😃 WTF is the problem with ANYONE in government after this stupid tweet? How can there be an ounce of respect for a tax-evading, mentally equated three-year-old who starts a twitter war? How does anyone expect our country to be taken seriously at all in any given policy or agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23367 "2018-07-23T11:03:10Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > In Russia, polonium eats YOU! 😃 > > WTF is the problem with ANYONE in government after this stupid tweet? How can there be an ounce of respect for a tax-evading, mentally equated three-year-old who starts a twitter war? How does anyone expect our country to be taken seriously at all in any given policy or agreement? No but see he’s really playing 6-dimensional chess where everybody believes he’s a complete fuckwit and that’s when he does something even \*more \*retarded to lull people into a false sense of security. THEN and only then he starts to call Rouhani mean names on Twitter. Then America starts winning. Look, it’s real subtle, OK ? What you’ve got to remember is, [del]God[/del]Trump has a plan. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23368 "2018-07-23T11:08:56Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > In Russia, polonium eats YOU! 😃 > > WTF is the problem with ANYONE in government after this stupid tweet? How can there be an ounce of respect for a tax-evading, mentally equated three-year-old who starts a twitter war? How does anyone expect our country to be taken seriously at all in any given policy or agreement? I had to do a search to find out what Rouhani said that Trump was responding to. Not that I thought Trump’s vitriol might be warranted (it wasn’t), I was just curious. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23369 "2018-07-23T11:17:21Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I had to do a search to find out what Rouhani said that Trump was responding to. Not that I thought Trump’s vitriol might be warranted (it wasn’t), I was just curious. To follow up: From CNN: [https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/trump-iran-intl/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/trump-iran-intl/index.html) > [@](#): > > Trump’s comments were apparently a response to earlier remarks by Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani, who warned the US that war with Tehran would be the “mother of all wars.” > > Rouhani warned Trump not to “play with the lion’s tail, because you will regret it eternally.” He also held out the possibility of a peaceful relationship with the US, in remarks reported by Iranian state media. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23370 "2018-07-23T11:23:18Z")
What’s the problem with literally anyone? That tweet is so obviously unhinged, and yet on Twitter any criticism is met by “oh, so you love Iran, huh?” It’s fucking deranged. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23371 "2018-07-23T11:59:37Z")
They need a crisis to exploit before the mid-terms, and exploit it they will. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23372 "2018-07-23T12:13:38Z")
It is deranged, and also childish, stupid, embarrassing and pointless. But it gave the lazy media a clickbait headline and Trump’s base a collective orgasm, so look for more to come. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23373 "2018-07-23T12:43:58Z")
Great minds think alike. I came across the followed and ctrl-C’ed to post here. But it’s already the topic of conversation! 🙂 (I’ll ctrl-V the clipboard, since I’ve already carried it this far.) “To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23374 "2018-07-23T12:51:15Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > They need a crisis to exploit before the mid-terms, and exploit it they will. This. And it’s going to have to be BIG, the BIGGEST. How about getting Russia to do (God forbid) a 9/11-type attack, so the nation will rally around president pantsonhead? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23375 "2018-07-23T13:30:08Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Trump’s disapproval ratings are historic. > > The biggest disapproval ratings ever since we began keeping track. > And his net approval ratings are not matched by those of any other president ever. > > [How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) > > scroll down for the comparisons tool That is my source as well, and what I wrote was correct. Around 40% of Americans still support Trump. Disapproval is barely above 50%. Maybe you find a way to interpret that as a positive. I find it horrifying. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23376 "2018-07-23T13:31:49Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > I heard a great point regarding all of this. Trump knows how insane the media and the strong leftist crowd is. He has used Mueller as his own secret weapon. He stirs up trouble with Mueller and the media by simply meeting with Putin and now we have the left comparing Russian’s buying Facebook ads with Pearl Harbor. There is no reasoning with the left and the middle of the road people are now realizing it. So Trump’s support continues to go up. You cannot seriously believe this tripe. > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It’s not a great point, it’s a dumb argument you like. Your nazi-loving shitheap of a president is scared to death of the Mueller investigation, that’s why he’s always whining and crying about it. Yep. Throw a rock into a herd of jackass and the one that brays is the one you chipped. > [@Railer13](#): > > So if you heard this great point, surely you can provide the source? Just like his hero, he made it up. > [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > A Russian guy I know. Unfortunately, from the eccentricly zany responses thus far, it appears it was a good point. Only to you. > [@jayjay](#): > > What I’m really goggling at is that they managed to plant a sleeper on this board back in 2014. And I thought the candidate was supposed to be Manchurian. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23377 "2018-07-23T13:48:44Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > I heard a great point regarding all of this. Trump knows how insane the media and the strong leftist crowd is. He has used Mueller as his own secret weapon. He stirs up trouble with Mueller and the media by simply meeting with Putin and now we have the left comparing Russian’s buying Facebook ads with Pearl Harbor. There is no reasoning with the left and the middle of the road people are now realizing it. So Trump’s support continues to go up. Suppose for a moment that this is actually true. Think about what you’re saying. It would mean that the President of the United States is deliberately setting out to antagonize about half of the citizens he is supposed to lead. And, if the Putin meeting was not meant to achieve anything else, he’s doing so for no better reason than to be antagonizing. And you seem to think that this would be a good thing. Once someone is elected president, he doesn’t get to pick and choose who his constituents are. Other presidents have done things that have disappointed, or even angered, their political opponents. Obama passed the Affordable Care Act, but he was trying to accomplish something with it. I never heard even his most vocal critics say he did it just to piss off conservatives. That’s essentially what you’re saying; Trump spent time, money, and considerable effort to do something solely because he knew half the country would hate it. You seem to think you’re somehow defending him. Just taking this at face value (and again, if it were true) it shows how utterly unfit Trump is to lead the country. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23378 "2018-07-23T14:06:24Z")
Always wondered what it would sound like if two five-year-olds had a dick-waggling contest. Well, not always. But anyway, now I know. > [@septimus](#): > > What do we need Ambassadors for? Nitpick: we haven’t had diplomatic relations with Iran since 1979, so there is no US-Iran ambassador. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23379 "2018-07-23T14:09:51Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > How does anyone expect our country to be taken seriously at all in any given policy or agreement? Because other countries know this will be over in a couple years. Plus, we can bomb the shit out of them. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23380 "2018-07-23T14:25:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think our allies are worried about us because if America is so politically weak that its government willingly allows a foreign power to meddle in its elections without consequences, then what does it say about its future stability? If I were in a political leader in any of the European Union states, I would be seriously pushing for a robust EU joint defense force. No need. What some of them are doing (including Spain’s Sánchez and Robles) is simply pump up our own defenses. If the US wants to get out of NATO, hey, we have all that military real estate we need to find a use for! ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23381 "2018-07-23T14:50:30Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Because other countries know this will be over in a couple years. Plus, we can bomb the shit out of them. You seem to view Trump as an isolated phenomenon in American politics. A. He is not. and B. His completion of the merger of Tea Party outrage populism with big money lobbyism is going to influence US politics for decades. Trump is successfully indoctrinating his base with the schizophrenic idea that the minority party in congress is still hurting America, which is being destroyed by immigration, but is also great again ever since the election. Whether the Republican party ekes out a slim continued majority in the upcoming election or not, Trump will have two more years of taking credit for anything positive and blaming the democrats for anything bad, whether real or just made up by him, and sane Republicans will either have to grow a spine, stand up for what they believe is right, and abandon any chance of winning, since ditching Trump will alienate a substantial part of their voters, or continue as they are now, completely adrift from reality, but in power. And as Trump is finding out, in world politics, having a history of bad faith negotiations sticks with you, threatening war isn’t all that effective, and when you have alienated your business partners you can’t just ditch them and find some other greedy suckers. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23382 "2018-07-23T15:19:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The base doesn’t want to believe it. They are clinging to the spin-‘explanations’ Exspinations. Think it’s clever enough to become a portmaneau? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23383 "2018-07-23T15:34:56Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Trump will have two more years of taking credit for anything positive and blaming the democrats for anything bad, whether real or just made up by him, and sane Republicans will either have to grow a spine, stand up for what they believe is right, and abandon any chance of winning I suspect this will happen. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23384 "2018-07-23T16:17:02Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It’s not a great point, it’s a dumb argument you like. Your nazi-loving shitheap of a president is scared to death of the Mueller investigation, that’s why he’s always whining and crying about it. Trump has always been a whiner. This is from before the election: [Bill Maher Urges Donald Trump to ‘Stop Whining Like a Little Bitch’ (Video)](https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-donald-trump-whiny-little-bitch/) Brian Flood | May 7, 2016 @ 8:36 AM > [@](#): > > Bill Maher called out Donald Trump during the “New Rule” segment on HBO’s “Real Time” Friday night, comparing the presumptive GOP nominee to the perception that men had of women back in the 1950s. > > “Donald Trump, who says if Hillary Clinton were a man she wouldn’t get 5 percent of the vote,” Maher said. “If Trump was a man he’d stop whining like a little bitch.” > > … > > The “Real Time” host made his case that nobody fits the stereotypically ’50s description of women better than the modern-day Trump. > > “Irrational, pouty, vain, thin-skinned, hysterical and just not that bright, does that sound like anyone we know today?” the comic said. I’ve seen this quote often enough: Trump is a poor man’s idea of a rich man, a weak man’s idea of a strong man, and a stupid man’s idea of a smart man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1168) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1170)