# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23385 "2018-07-23T16:23:51Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I suspect this will happen.

Based on what? And do you think it will be a loss for the Republican party, or will the sane Republicans be primaried and sane voters will hold their nose and vote for the wackos? Based on the current state of affairs it looks like it could go either way.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23386 "2018-07-23T16:37:50Z")

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Gut feeling. Besides, some chicken-littles on this board think there won’t even BE an election, so when one is held like usual, it will already be a win.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23387 "2018-07-23T16:53:37Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Gut feeling. Besides, some chicken-littles on this board think there won’t even BE an election, so when one is held like usual, it will already be a win.

Yeah, the chicken littles always believe that. How often did the right conspiracy idiots fret about Obama suspending elections if they didn’t do _something_ (hint: all the fucking time). Chicken Little knows no political ideology.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23388 "2018-07-23T17:07:52Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Gut feeling. Besides, some chicken-littles on this board think there won’t even BE an election, so when one is held like usual, it will already be a win.

Even in dictatorships, they usually still hold elections. One should not worry about there being no elections; experience shows that when a democracy fails, it’s because the elections are bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23389 "2018-07-23T17:18:27Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Exspinations.
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> Think it’s clever enough to become a portmaneau?

Yeah; actually I do.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23390 "2018-07-23T17:26:30Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Always wondered what it would sound like if two five-year-olds had a dick-waggling contest. Well, not always. But anyway, now I know.
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> Nitpick: we haven’t had diplomatic relations with Iran since 1979, so there is no US-Iran ambassador.

Yeh, that’s when the country that according to Trump is a security risk to the USA and against which Trump started a trade war sheltered and smuggled out half a dozen American diplomats. [Canadian Caper - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Caper)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23391 "2018-07-23T17:46:48Z")

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Those were Deep State operatives, you maple-hugging terrorists.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23392 "2018-07-23T18:06:33Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Gut feeling. Besides, some chicken-littles on this board think there won’t even BE an election, so when one is held like usual, it will already be a win.

Lowered expectations is one way to feel like a winner I guess.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23393 "2018-07-23T18:27:58Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Yeah, the chicken littles always believe that. How often did the right conspiracy idiots fret about Obama suspending elections if they didn’t do _something_ (hint: all the fucking time). Chicken Little knows no political ideology.

Correct. And it was funny to read about that too.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23394 "2018-07-23T18:29:03Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> Lowered expectations is one way to feel like a winner I guess.

Ha! If you have any high expectations for the rest of this Presidential term, then good on you, I guess.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23395 "2018-07-23T18:53:09Z")

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Watching WH press conference and Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying Trump wants to revoke the security clearances of his critics such as Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rice, and others.

I guess he doesn’t like it when it’s pointed out he has no clothes on.

Or any clue.

Edited: It’s because they “politicized and monetized” their positions. Another classic Trump projection.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23396 "2018-07-23T18:59:12Z")

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Don’t know if this is really Bette Middler’s line, but she reportedly wants to do a song about him: “The Putin-pleasin’ treason boy of Company Pee”.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23397 "2018-07-23T19:16:08Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Watching WH press conference and Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying Trump wants to revoke the security clearances of his critics such as Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rice, and others.
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> I guess he doesn’t like it when it’s pointed out he has no clothes on.
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> Or any clue.
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> Edited: It’s because they “politicized and monetized” their positions. Another classic Trump projection.

Anything less than total loyalty will be punished apparently

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23398 "2018-07-23T19:30:46Z")

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Oh just one more trip into Can You Imagine world.

Can you imagine if in 2010 Obama had said that he planned on revoking the security clearances of the former CIA Director, DNI, FBI Director, National Security Advisor and others for being critical of his administration? Just imagine the heads exploding on the right. How fast do you think articles of impeachment would have been drawn up? My guess is before he finished uttering the last name in the list.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23399 "2018-07-23T19:34:17Z")

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For a couple of American presidential elections I’ve found myself explaining to foreigners that the natural-born citizen requirement makes Madeleine Albright ineligible.

The woman still has more brains in her little finger than most world governments around the whole table, and a lot more diplomacy that I’ll be able to use in my whole life. [CNN interview.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZ-Ft7tSAQ)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23400 "2018-07-23T19:35:22Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> What I’m really goggling at is that they managed to plant a sleeper on this board back in 2014.

**jayjay** there have been socks and trolls on this board that had join dates of over a decade before their trolling began, with virtually no posts in that span. Create an account, write the info down, and then sit on it until the troll wants to “have fun”.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23401 "2018-07-23T19:44:11Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> That is my source as well, and what I wrote was correct. Around 40% of Americans still support Trump. Disapproval is barely above 50%. Maybe you find a way to interpret that as a positive. I find it horrifying.

While the approval / disapproval numbers may not be what we’d like, it does seem worth noting that the no other president has had such robust disapproval numbers.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23402 "2018-07-23T19:52:24Z")

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Jesus. What the hell was I thinking? The Twitter-right is already spreading like an infection: “they all lied and leaked and blah blah blah! Why didn’t Trump rip their clearance away when he booted them out the door?”

Of course, my next round of rhetoric involved what will happen when the next Democratic president pulls this shit, but my irony-mill has run dry.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23403 "2018-07-23T19:59:01Z")

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PolitiFact calls Trump’s claim that the Page probe was sparked by the Steele Dossier “false”.

> **[PolitiFact - Donald Trump falsely says new Carter Page documents show Steele...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/23/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-says-new-carter-page-document/)**
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> President Donald Trump claimed newly released documents underlying the FBI’s surveillance of a former campaign adviser s

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23404 "2018-07-23T20:06:29Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> Latest tweet from Trump. Seems to fit the OP title. [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021234525626609666](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021234525626609666)
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> Tweet reads, and this is the actual font used—I’m not adding any emphasis:
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> At least it wasn’t in Comic Sans… Or was asking me to forward this to the next five people. I had to check the URL a few times, to see if it was legit.
> 
> Still, I’ve never seen a US President address another foreign leader in such a bellicose manner; albeit most Presidents that might’ve, lived before Twitter was a thing.
> 
> Anyway, I thought you all would be amused.

Reasons…

[ol]  
[li]He is trying to distract from the Meuller investigation[/li][li]He is trying to distract from the fact that Meuller now has Cohen’s tapes.[/li][li]He is trying to distract from the fact that New York State is investigating his family’s “foundations”.[/li][li]He is trying to distract from his dismal failure with North Korea[/li][li]He is trying to distract from his ridiculous performance with NATO and the EU[/li][li]He is trying to distract from his treason in Helsinki.[/li][li]He is pretending to be tough, after being played for the fool he is by damn near everybody.[/li][/ol]

All of the above.

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