# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23465 "2018-07-25T00:46:08Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> He got fucked pretty good by Little Rocket Man too.

Yes. The _ONE_ concession Trump supposedly got out of that gigantic give-away to Kim of everything Kim wanted, was that Kim would let Korean War-era remains of US service members be returned to the USA.

We’re still waiting. And no one should hold their breath.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23466 "2018-07-25T01:08:12Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Ex-White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s new book **The Briefing: Politics, the Press, and the President** is out. He’s taking a lot of flak for it already, but probably more for his multiple praisings of Trump, including this bizarre metaphor – Trump is “a unicorn, riding a unicorn over a rainbow.”

Well, at least we now have a right-wing version of Chris Matthews’ infamous “thrill up my leg” remark to point and laugh at.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23467 "2018-07-25T02:30:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If Putin had any class, he would have left a 20 on the nightstand.

A quarter. Really, when it comes to “relations” with Putin, Trump is just a two-bit hooker.

> [@jasg](#):
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> Who knew Joseph Heller was describing Trump in Catch 22…

Wrong reference. The correct one is Mork from _Mork & Mindy_:

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> Catch 44. It’s like a Catch 22, but twice as bad.

Well, now we are suffering through Catch 45.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> The fucking Constitution says they can’t do it.

The bigoted right is already lining up saying that isn’t what the amendment neans, doesn’t apply, etc. I think the article I read with all that nonsense was in The Federalist.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> He got fucked pretty good by Little Rocket Man too.

And that was after two meetings between Kim and Xi, after Xi openly manipulated Trump. Of course Kim met Xi to get pointers.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23468 "2018-07-25T02:54:26Z")

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The White House has stopped reporting on calls Trump has made to foreign leaders.  
[https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html)?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23469 "2018-07-25T03:02:45Z")

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[CNN aired the Trump-Cohen phone recording where the two of them discuss payment to the Playmate in 2016.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape/index.html)

Not the highest quality recording in the world, but Trump did suggest making the payment in cash, which is not what Rudy G claimed.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23470 "2018-07-25T03:26:38Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> A quarter. Really, when it comes to “relations” with Putin, Trump is just a two-bit hooker.

Close. Right now, 20 Rubles are worth 32 cents American.

😃

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23471 "2018-07-25T05:47:52Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [CNN aired the Trump-Cohen phone recording where the two of them discuss payment to the Playmate in 2016.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape/index.html)
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> Not the highest quality recording in the world, but Trump did suggest making the payment in cash, which is not what Rudy G claimed.

I thought the tape was a flop. It seemed to end right where it might have gotten interesting, but there was nothing I heard that was a big deal.

MUCH bigger IMO was Rachel Maddow’s story tonight (originally caught by _The Atlantic_, IIRC) on how both the Russian and US official transcripts and videos have edited out Putin giving a flat “Da” to the question of whether he favored Trump in the election.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23472 "2018-07-25T06:09:47Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I thought the tape was a flop. It seemed to end right where it might have gotten interesting, but there was nothing I heard that was a big deal.
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> MUCH bigger IMO was Rachel Maddow’s story tonight (originally caught by _The Atlantic_, IIRC) on how both the Russian and US official transcripts and videos have edited out Putin giving a flat “Da” to the question of whether he favored Trump in the election.

Avenatti is actually harming the cause; he and his client are a bunch of goddamned showboats (well, mostly he). People can easily conflate Mueller’s work with his antics, and reach the conclusion that Mueller’s also a showboat and that we’re just watching politics as usual.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23473 "2018-07-25T06:11:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> $12B in subsidies is just money going to line the pockets of Big Agra. The “family farmer” is going to get jack-shit.

…Which will eventually come back and bite преЦАРдент Trump on his poor, fat, diseased tennis ass. When that time comes, are US farmers _really_ going to be as stupid as Stalin-era Russian peasants were, with the latter’s “oh he just doesn’t know” handwave of their leader’s perilous neglect/criminality?

So how soon is (R. - Nebraska) Ben Sasse gonna get thrown on the rrrrrrrack (said with rolled “r”, Snidely Whiplash-like) for doing a pretty good [diss](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/sen-sasse-u-s-needs-more-trade-not-bellicose-threatening) on President Piltdown’s tariff gong show?  
When he mentioned that bean losses this year were $12 billion, alone, that put things into perspective of his views of the farmer’s aid as being a band-aid solution.

Here’s to hoping more Repubs grow a pair and speak up like this if something’s getting their goat.

Pissed everyone’s been too fucking ignorant to mention the elegant, winsome splendour of _Danielle_ Steel.  
Assholes.  
yeah I know the “e” at the end is missing.

At least all that puerile unicorn-fucking stuff is long done with.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23474 "2018-07-25T06:15:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …MUCH bigger IMO was Rachel Maddow’s story tonight (originally caught by The Atlantic, IIRC) on how both the Russian and US official transcripts and videos have edited out Putin giving a flat “Da” to the question of whether he favored Trump in the election…

Worse! The actual question referenced his preference for Trump AND did he direct his government to assist him! And then they edited the transcript AND the video so the questioner and the question fucking disappear! Poof! Gone! They literally tried to “Gaslight” everybody all at once, even though an original of the video is out there! And a room full of reporters heard the whole damn thing!

What kills me is that until Rachel pointed it out, nobody seems to have noticed it! And it was a fucking week ago? WTF? WT literal F?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23475 "2018-07-25T06:18:23Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Not the highest quality recording in the world, but Trump did suggest making the payment in cash, which is not what Rudy G claimed.

When I listen to it, I hear what I think is “ **don’t** pay cash” with the “don’t” partially muffled by something Cohen was saying, and then the word “check.”

Although I’m not sure that’s a good thing. There’s an implied “this time,” which just raises more questions. If I was making some kind of dubious payment, I don’t think I’d need to specify that I didn’t want my lawyer to send over a brown bag of unmarked bills unless I’d done that exact thing in the past.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23476 "2018-07-25T06:20:22Z")

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> **[Maddow: Official White House Helsinki Records Altered To Hide Putin's...](https://crooksandliars.com/2018/07/maddow-official-helsinki-video-and)**
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> Rachel Maddow walks us all through how Donald Trump edited the \*official\* White House record to remove any reference to Putin's preference for Trump

_Crooks and Liars_ has the RM segment available.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23477 "2018-07-25T06:34:25Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> A quarter. Really, when it comes to “relations” with Putin, Trump is just a two-bit hooker.

I thought the going rate was thirty pieces of silver.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23478 "2018-07-25T10:24:29Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yes. The _ONE_ concession Trump supposedly got out of that gigantic give-away to Kim of everything Kim wanted, was that Kim would let Korean War-era remains of US service members be returned to the USA.
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> We’re still waiting. And no one should hold their breath.

Yes, and the parents of these MIAs aren’t getting any younger.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23479 "2018-07-25T13:22:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Michael Anton, former Trump security advisor, is now claiming that Trump, on his own and without any judicial or Congressional authority, should revoke the right of birthright citizenship.  
> He’s only been gone three months (he left when Bolton took over), but he’s all over it in a new article in the Washington Post. Even the right is leery of the subject. Even The Federalist says it would make the Republican Party look like the Party of Dred Scott.  
> [The 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship, explained - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/7/23/17595754/michael-anton-birthright-citizenship-amendment-illegal-immigrants-children)

Whaaaaaaat?

That’s the one subject I’m used to hearing “the US does it right, your country does it wrong-wrong-wrong” most often, even more than the First and Second Amendments. Most of the people ranting about the Second have their information wrong, anyway (many Americans believe people abroad do not have any right to bear arms); not so much about citizenship (they tend to be lacking nuance but at least they don’t believe that people in other countries don’t have citizenship). Wow.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23480 "2018-07-25T14:54:04Z")

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[Donald Trump’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame has been completely smashed.](https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/1022100068583624705?s=19)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23481 "2018-07-25T14:56:52Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame has been completely smashed.](https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/1022100068583624705?s=19)

I have an alibi.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23482 "2018-07-25T15:28:07Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame has been completely smashed.](https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/1022100068583624705?s=19)

Aw, man, now I won’t have a chance to piss on it.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23483 "2018-07-25T16:01:28Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> MUCH bigger IMO was Rachel Maddow’s story tonight (originally caught by _The Atlantic_, IIRC) on how both the Russian and US official transcripts and videos have edited out Putin giving a flat “Da” to the question of whether he favored Trump in the election.

16.7.18 vp speech malreported helsinki rectify (and into the memory hole it goes)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23484 "2018-07-25T16:10:31Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Aw, man, now I won’t have a chance to piss on it.

I was waiting for his grave. If it’s destroyed, I say don’t replace it.

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