# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23505 "2018-07-25T21:52:54Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Yes, and the parents of these MIAs aren’t getting any younger.:rolleyes:

There’s a thread in Elections soliciting ideas for anti-Trump campaign ads, and one highlighting Trump’s Stupidest Lies should definitely include his whopper about the Korean War soldiers, and their parents:

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> “The soldiers that died in Korea, their remains are going to be coming back home,” he told Fox News aboard Air Force One.
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> …“And we have thousands of people that have asked for that, thousands and thousands of people. So many people asked when I was on the campaign, I’d say ‘Wait a minute, I don’t have any relationship…’, but they said, ‘When you can, President, we’d love our son to be brought back home’. You know the remains.”

> **[Trump claims parents pleaded with him to bring back remains of sons killed in...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-korean-war-remains-parents-north-korea-singapore-summit-a8398956.html)**
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> Kim Jong-un agrees to 'immediate repatriation' of identified soldiers

That was in mid-June. So far none of the “thousands and thousands” of parents of service members who died in the Korean conflict—which ended in 1953, making those parents very old indeed (late 90s at best), have come forward to describe their happiness at Trump (supposedly) granting their requests.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23506 "2018-07-25T21:59:10Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> WH releases statement from Ambassador John Bolton:  
> “The President believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year.”
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> [https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1022188853476708352?s=19](https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1022188853476708352?s=19)

Trump got slapped down by his master hard, when he forgot himself so far as to “decree” that Putin would arrive this fall. Dopey Donnie, thinking he could order around the man in charge!

Nice of Bolton to try to clean up that little humiliation. But it’s just one more display of Trump’s lame ineptitude that his followers have to try to ‘lalalalala’ away.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23507 "2018-07-25T22:10:14Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I’ve heard that trump watches multiple TV’s at once.
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> or… perhaps these are pre-tuned to only get FOX, and the channel can’t be changed (not sure if that’s even possible, especially since different hotels will have different cable providers. I’m sure though once FOX was on, you could devise a way to not change the channel without a password or something). Anyway, that way he could force Melania to not watch anything but FOX.
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> Seems like his style.

Yeah. Maybe when he comes out to replace his star on the Walk of Fame, he can stop in at the Scientology Celebrity Center and get some tips on preventing minions from accessing data from unapproved sources.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23508 "2018-07-25T22:59:39Z")

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Because Melanie only ever watches news and is never, ever interested in watching anything that actually calls itself “entertainment” instead of pretending that it is not.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23509 "2018-07-25T23:28:49Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> …Or does this mean now each room will have TWO TVs in case hubby & wifey decide to visit each other in their rooms? Ewwwww.

_A knock on Melania’s door as Donald pokes his head in. Melania rolls her eyes._  
Melania: Yes, come in.  
Trump: mmmmm pumpkin…really? Ya really gotta have that fake news on? (_wipes back of hand across his nose_)  
Melania: (_gesturing to second to TV_) It’s waiting for you, Donny.  
Trump: (_turning on other TV_): ok Pumpkin you know I don’t like ‘Donny’.  
Anderson Cooper on Melania’s TV: The president, especially in the past week, has violated a number of norms that…  
Trump: (_a Spockian eyebrow at AC then back at his own TV_): Now you see pumpkin, _there’s_ America telling it like it is. (_significant pause_) Ok who is that?  
Melania: (_stonefaced, looks over at Don’s tv_): Jenanine Pirro.  
Trump: And she’s got nuthin on ya, pumpkin.  
(_an extended pinky is quickly swatted_)  
Melania: Can you turn yours down? I can’t hear anything now.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23510 "2018-07-26T02:07:28Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> If you do allegations of fascism by German, please do it right: Trump’s Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika. (though maybe we can leave the double ‘rr’ if we imagine it spoken in the voice of you know whom…)

It’s been decades since I tried to speak or write German. Oh well at least you got the idea I was going for.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23511 "2018-07-26T02:09:19Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Because Melanie only ever watches news and is never, ever interested in watching anything that actually calls itself “entertainment” instead of pretending that it is not.

I don’t see why she can’t just watch whatever she wants… what Donnie likes or dislikes means fuck all.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23512 "2018-07-26T02:19:48Z")

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Never mind, I see the TV issue has been addressed.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23513 "2018-07-26T03:07:03Z")

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Does Trump own soybean futures?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23514 "2018-07-26T03:20:07Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I don’t see why she can’t just watch whatever she wants… what Donnie likes or dislikes means fuck all.

That’s not what the pre-nup says!

Probably.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23515 "2018-07-26T05:41:04Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> 😕
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> Don’t hotel rooms usually have a TV installed?

Yes, but I think the issue may be that they don’t necessarily support the guest’s devices, and presumably he wants to get Fox News anywhere in the world, even when there is no local carriage. I’m sure I remember reading that he could only get CNN on his first big trip.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23516 "2018-07-26T11:46:54Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I’ve heard that trump watches multiple TV’s at once.
> 
> or… perhaps these are pre-tuned to only get FOX, and the channel can’t be changed (not sure if that’s even possible, especially since different hotels will have different cable providers. I’m sure though once FOX was on, you could devise a way to not change the channel without a password or something). Anyway, that way he could force Melania to not watch anything but FOX.
> 
> Seems like his style.

I’m visualizing Trump as Ozymandias, in his Antarctic preserve, dressed in his purple cap and weird tiara, petting his genetically modified giant Cat while watching an entire wall of TVs, all of them switched to Fox.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23517 "2018-07-26T12:34:15Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Yes, but I think the issue may be that they don’t necessarily support the guest’s devices, and presumably he wants to get Fox News anywhere in the world, even when there is no local carriage. I’m sure I remember reading that he could only get CNN on his first big trip.

Maybe he can get a chip installed in his head so he can pick up FOX anywhere in this world (or the next).

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23518 "2018-07-26T13:15:55Z")

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If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice?

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23519 "2018-07-26T13:18:33Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice?

Reality no longer matters, it’ll all be deep state, fake news, witch hunt, who are you gonna believe, Trump or your own lying eyes?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23520 "2018-07-26T13:22:04Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice?

“God works in mysterious ways. Who are we to question why He raised up Trump to lead America back to Him?”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23521 "2018-07-26T13:36:39Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> “God works in mysterious ways. Who are we to question why He raised up Trump to lead America back to Him?”

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23522 "2018-07-26T14:14:10Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> “God works in mysterious ways. Who are we to question why He raised up Trump to lead America back to Him?”

Agreed. I’ve seen some quotes from Christian leaders (no, I’m not going to find the cites now) comparing Trump to the Biblical King David. In the Bible, David is (I guess, I don’t remember from my Bible-reading days) a very flawed person who God nevertheless works through to lead Israel to greatness. So, for these Christians, there’s pretty much nothing Trump could do personally that would make them turn away from him as long as he Makes America Great Again and appoints conservative judges.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23523 "2018-07-26T14:20:41Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice?

They won’t care.

The only thing that might make them turn on him is if he nominates a pro-choice judge to the SCOTUS.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23524 "2018-07-26T14:30:03Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> If you do allegations of fascism by German, please do it right: Trump’s Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika. (though maybe we can leave the double ‘rr’ if we imagine it spoken in the voice of you know whom…)

Do you think we could get Till Lindemann to teach Bavarian diction to Trump and use him as a fireworks test subject?

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