# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1177
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23525 "2018-07-26T14:53:20Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > They won’t care. > > The only thing that might make them turn on him is if he nominates a pro-choice judge to the SCOTUS. They would like that, but they wouldn’t turn on him. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23526 "2018-07-26T15:02:58Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Do you think we could get Till Lindemann to teach Bavarian diction to Trump and use him as a fireworks test subject? _Gefährlich das PantsOnHead Kind_ _Mit Feuer das vom Leben trennt_ _Mein heißer Schrei : FEUER FREI !_ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23527 "2018-07-26T15:21:57Z")
[CNN correspondent Kaitlan Collins banned from Oval Office event for being “inappropriate”.](https://www.npr.org/2018/07/25/632518447/white-house-reporter-says-she-was-banned-from-press-event-for-inappropriate-ques) [Fox blames Bill Shines](https://nypost.com/2018/07/26/fox-news-slams-bill-shine-for-banning-cnn-reporter/) [without bothering to ask Kellyanne Conway what she thinks](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-and-friends-kellyanne-conway-cnn_us_5b59b518e4b0b15aba95c121). ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23528 "2018-07-26T15:22:13Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Do you think we could get Till Lindemann to teach Bavarian diction to Trump and use him as a fireworks test subject? You know, I hate Rammstein, but that’d be a show I’d like to see! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23529 "2018-07-26T16:32:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe he can get a chip installed in his head so he can pick up FOX anywhere in this world (or the next). Trump already has a chip installed in his head. Unfortunately, it is a potato chip. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23530 "2018-07-26T17:24:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice? The [test case](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/scott-desjarlais-reelection-110028) study is not positive. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23531 "2018-07-26T17:58:02Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice? Hardly. You see that’s what a family man does for his mistress to stay faithful to his wife. Oh, and since the baby was conceived in ‘sin’ it’s not human, so it doesn’t matter. I’m not joking. This is how they will hand wave it away. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23532 "2018-07-26T17:59:07Z")
I think the story of Trump watching Fox News is a lie. He probably only really watches RT. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23533 "2018-07-26T18:03:45Z")
Honestly, I think they would just ignore it (an abortion story). No hand-waving, no stupid remarks, just ignore and move on. “Fake news!” has become an mantra for anything that side doesn’t like to hear. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23534 "2018-07-26T18:14:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Honestly, I think they would just ignore it (an abortion story). No hand-waving, no stupid remarks, just ignore and move on. “Fake news!” has become an mantra for anything that side doesn’t like to hear. Abortion is for those awful godless people. Unless, of course, you need one. Then it’s A-OK, ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23535 "2018-07-26T18:36:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If Trump is credibly attached to any abortions, will his supporters turn on him, or will they become pro-choice? Hey, both sides do it. Here’s an article from 2020 detailing Trump’s reelection victory: [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-trump-won-re-election/ar-BBL4Eec) The money quote is, “What part of DOW 30000 do liberals not get?” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23536 "2018-07-26T18:41:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I think the story of Trump watching Fox News is a lie. He probably only really watches RT. Maybe he watches Fox “News” after RT tells them what to say. :eek: I must say, it did my heart good yesterday to see footage of the sparse audience in attendance at Trump’s paid-for-by-taxpayers campaign speech to the VFW in Kansas City. Heard reports that the event organizers had already moved the event to a smaller venue. And the smaller venue was nonetheless only about a third full. It seemed to rattle him. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23537 "2018-07-26T18:43:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I think the story of Trump watching Fox News is a lie. I can buy him watching Fox & Friends\*; they’re little more than fluff. \*Or at least have the TV on whey they are in case they mention him. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23538 "2018-07-26T20:21:58Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Hey, both sides do it. > > Here’s an article from 2020 detailing Trump’s reelection victory: [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-trump-won-re-election/ar-BBL4Eec) > > The money quote is, “What part of DOW 30000 do liberals not get?” The part where that is caused by hyperinflation, rather than economic growth. 30000 DOW sounds good until you realize that you also have $20 a gallon gas, $7,000 iphones, and $30 eggs. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23539 "2018-07-26T20:31:25Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Agreed. I’ve seen some quotes from Christian leaders (no, I’m not going to find the cites now) comparing Trump to the Biblical King David. In the Bible, David is (I guess, I don’t remember from my Bible-reading days) a very flawed person who God nevertheless works through to lead Israel to greatness. So, for these Christians, there’s pretty much nothing Trump could do personally that would make them turn away from him as long as he Makes America Great Again and appoints conservative judges. And remember that King David didn’t go with that one man one woman marriage thing. That would make Trump happy. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23540 "2018-07-26T22:43:33Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Agreed. I’ve seen some quotes from Christian leaders (no, I’m not going to find the cites now) comparing Trump to the Biblical King David. In the Bible, David is (I guess, I don’t remember from my Bible-reading days) a very flawed person who God nevertheless works through to lead Israel to greatness. Actually, (according to the Bible) David only did one thing in his whole life that didn’t please God, and that was when he had Bathsheba’s husband killed after he grabbed her by the pussy. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23541 "2018-07-26T23:35:05Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > The money quote is, “What part of DOW 30000 do liberals not get?” How many Trump voters own a single share of stock? That’s Trumponomics; making people like Donald Trump richer while convincing people who aren’t like Donald Trump that it’s somehow good for them too. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23542 "2018-07-27T00:03:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > How many Trump voters own a single share of stock? > > That’s Trumponomics; making people like Donald Trump richer while convincing people who aren’t like Donald Trump that it’s somehow good for them too. Also, not coincidentally, the central tenet of Prosperity Gospel theology. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23543 "2018-07-27T02:27:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > How many Trump voters own a single share of stock? > > That’s Trumponomics; making people like Donald Trump richer while convincing people who aren’t like Donald Trump that it’s somehow good for them too. Well, We may think it is stupid, but obviously Trump fans think everything is going great. I think that is the point of that piece- Dems made this mistake before in underestimating the disconnect in America between the informed and the… propagandized? Whatever Trump voters are. The Dems can offer health insurance, fiscal sanity, jobs training for screwed coal miners and out of work factory workers plus other things that would actually help. To them, it is just a bunch of yammering by liberals and they’ll have the snake oil, please. If we want to put the country back on track, we can’t repeat the mistake of totally not understanding Trump voters. Like with the abortion thing, and all the rest if Trump’s “character” failings. It doesn’t seem to matter. Could be a mistake to hammer too much on that kind of thing. Not sure exactly what the answer is. I do strongly recommend not running a POTUS candidate in 2020 that is related to any former president. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23544 "2018-07-27T03:11:53Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Not sure exactly what the answer is. I do strongly recommend not running a POTUS candidate in 2020 that is related to any former president. _What?!_ And leave Candace J. Coolidge out in the wilderness?! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1176) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1178)