# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1178
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23545 "2018-07-27T04:04:33Z")
Promise her a cabinet position if she’ll just stay out of it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23546 "2018-07-27T04:27:52Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I do strongly recommend not running a POTUS candidate in 2020 that is related to any former president. Oh, man, Great-Great Grandpa Millard just ruined my life AGAIN… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23547 "2018-07-27T12:33:21Z")
Not sure where to post this… [“Reagan’s Son: Trump’s Base Would Pick Putin Over Any Democrat As U.S. President”](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-base-vote-putin-over-democrat-ron-reagan_us_5b5a945be4b0fd5c73cd8dab?utm_source=reddit.com) > [@](#): > > The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes Donald Trump’s political base is so consumed by hatred for the Democrats that they would vote for Vladimir Putin to be America’s president instead of virtually any member of that party. > > “They really aren’t in touch with reality. The most important thing to them [is that Trump] seems to hate the same people that they hate,” Ron Reagan told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Thursday. “That’s the real Trump derangement syndrome.” > > On the other hand, they like the people Trump likes, Reagan said. Russian President Putin’s popularity is rising, he noted. > > “If it was left just up to Trump’s base, they would elect Vladimir Putin as president of the United States over virtually anybody with a D after their name,” he added. “If Trump seems to love Putin, they’ll love Putin, too.” > … I think he’s right. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23548 "2018-07-27T13:24:32Z")
While I generally take Ron Jr’s political insights with a grain of salt, the point that many, many Trump supporters are motivated by tribalism above all else is a valid one. There are already idiots out there thanking Russia for interfering in the 2016 election to stop Hillary from being elected (some while simultaneously denying any interference took place). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23549 "2018-07-27T17:54:03Z")
ProPublica has a report on 125 cases of sexual assault of minors being held in federal immigrant detention centers > [Immigrant Youth Shelters: “If You’re a Predator, It’s a Gold Mine” — ProPublica](https://www.propublica.org/article/immigrant-youth-shelters-sexual-abuse-fights-missing-children)? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23550 "2018-07-27T19:55:38Z")
How do you explain international trade to the Dotard? [With flash cards.](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trade-tariffs-eu-colorful-cards-2018-7) ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23551 "2018-07-27T20:08:14Z")
Great street theatre - two guys dressed as Russian soldiers show up to guard Trump’s star in Hollywood. > ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23552 "2018-07-27T20:08:47Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > How do you explain international trade to the Dotard? [With flash cards.](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trade-tariffs-eu-colorful-cards-2018-7) But, but, Trump went to Wharton Business School … ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23553 "2018-07-27T21:24:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But, but, Trump went to Wharton Business School … [digression] This reminds me of an episode of \*Wings \*where Lowell the mechanic invited Joe and Brian to attend his graduation from M.I.T. They are \*really \*impressed, as Lowell is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Turns out it isn’t Massachusetts Institute of Technology-- it’s a three-week program called Murray’s Institute of Tools. So I think thump probably graduated from Whore-town Busyness School and majored in pussy-grabbing and golf. [/digression] ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23554 "2018-07-27T21:38:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Not sure where to post this… > > ["Reagan’s Son: Trump’s Base Would Pick Putin Over Any Democrat As U.S. President"](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-base-vote-putin-over-democrat-ron-reagan_us_5b5a945be4b0fd5c73cd8dab?utm_source=reddit.com)I think he’s right. Of course he’s right. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23555 "2018-07-27T21:48:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But, but, Trump went to Wharton Business School … About that … look into it, his scholarly studies there “ain’t all that impressive”. Late Professor William T. Kelley taught Marketing at Wharton School of Business and Finance, University of Pennsylvania, for 31 years, ending with his retirement in 1982. Donald J. Trump was an undergraduate student at Wharton **for the latter two** of his college years, having been graduated in 1968. **“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”** Gwenda Blair, wrote in 2001 that Trump was admitted to Wharton on a special favor from a “friendly” admissions officer. The officer had known Trump’s older brother, Freddy. Trump’s classmates doubt that the real estate mogul was an academic powerhouse. “He was not in any kind of leadership. I certainly doubt he was the smartest guy in the class,” said Steve Perelman, a 1968 Wharton classmate and a former Daily Pennsylvanian news editor. 1968 Wharton graduate Louis Calomaris recalled that “Don … was **loath to really study much**.” Calomaris said Trump would **come to study groups unprepared and did not “seem to care about being prepared**.” **Most people who mention Wharton refer to its prestigious MBA program, but Trump was in the undergraduate program** , where he earned a bachelor’s degree in economics in 1968. During a CNN-sponsored Republican town hall in Columbia, South Carolina, in February 2016, Trump reminded the audience that he had gone to Wharton and repeated the same boast: “Look, I went to the best school, I was a good student and all of this stuff. I mean, I’m a smart person.” — _That sound exactly like what a really really smart person would say, and how hee’d say it_ :rolleyes: **So it is bullshit, just like everything else about him.** ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23556 "2018-07-27T22:06:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There are already idiots out there thanking Russia for interfering in the 2016 election to stop Hillary from being elected (some while simultaneously denying any interference took place). The progression of claims by the Trumpsters has been like this: “We never had meetings with any Russians.” “We may have met with Russians, but we didn’t talk about working together on the campaign.” “We may have talked about campaign stuff, but they didn’t have anything to provide us.” “There was no collusion.” “Collusion is not illegal.” “Thank you Vladimir Putin for helping us elect Trump.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23557 "2018-07-27T22:21:37Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > The progression of claims by the Trumpsters has been like this: > > “We never had meetings with any Russians.” > > “We may have met with Russians, but we didn’t talk about working together on the campaign.” > > “We may have talked about campaign stuff, but they didn’t have anything to provide us.” > > \*\*“There was no collusion.” > > “Collusion is not illegal.”\*\* > > “Thank you Vladimir Putin for helping us elect Trump.” Yeah. There may be no official legal “thing” for collusion, but there definitely is, for conspiracy. Conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to commit treason, conspiracy to obstruct justice, etc etc etc There was no “collusion”, but there was a shit load of conspiracy. We all know by now, the whole damn bunch is guilty as fuck. They weren’t even smart enough to hide it properly. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23558 "2018-07-28T00:17:27Z")
Trump asked aides to ban CNN’s Jim Acosta and April Ryan from the White House: > [@](#): > > The Washington Post reported Friday that Trump, angered by what he believes to be disrespectful behavior from journalists toward his administration, has spoken to aides about blacklisting CNN’s Jim Acosta and American Urban Radio Networks reporter April Ryan, who is also a CNN contributor. [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399278-trump-had-repeatedly-asked-aides-to-ban-reporters-before-cnn-incident?amp&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399278-trump-had-repeatedly-asked-aides-to-ban-reporters-before-cnn-incident?amp&__twitter_impression=true) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23559 "2018-07-28T11:02:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But, but, Trump went to Wharton Business School … Perhaps it’s time for the school to distance itself from him. Protecting the brand and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23560 "2018-07-28T14:11:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > We all know by now, the whole damn bunch is guilty as fuck. They weren’t even smart enough to hide it properly. It’s looking more and more like they didn’t try to hide it because they didn’t need to; per **CurtC** ’s excellent summation. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23561 "2018-07-28T15:01:56Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > About that … look into it, his scholarly studies there “ain’t all that impressive”. > > Late Professor William T. Kelley taught Marketing at Wharton School of Business and Finance, University of Pennsylvania, for 31 years, ending with his retirement in 1982. Donald J. Trump was an undergraduate student at Wharton **for the latter two** of his college years, having been graduated in 1968. > **“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”** Actually, I find the last line extremely impressive. Just - not in a good way. It’s kind of like saying “in 31 years of being a madame, that’s the one whore I met who kept needing explanations on the difference between Full Service and Greek.” ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23562 "2018-07-28T16:54:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@SteveG1](#): > > > > We all know by now, the whole damn bunch is guilty as fuck. They weren’t even smart enough to hide it properly. > > It’s looking more and more like they didn’t try to hide it because they didn’t need to; per **CurtC** ’s excellent summation. One of the stories in Simon R Green’s [Nightside](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightside_(book_series)) series deals with a character who sold his soul to the devil millennia ago in return for immortality. Turns out that one of the reasons the devil went for the deal is that the illusion of immortality — and not having to answer for his misdeeds — led the main character to acts of depravity which snared countless other souls who might otherwise have gone the other way. So the devil made a handsome profit, especially since he got the main character after all. Comparing real life to literature is chancy at best, but I do see a bit of a parallel. As long as CFSG feels that the Pubbies have his back, he might pretty much limit himself to bloviating; if the Dems take the House (at least), and his efforts to delegitimize the election results don’t take root, then Mueller _et.al._ might consider employing food tasters. And perhaps door-handle testers. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23563 "2018-07-28T18:12:27Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > They got guns. We got guns. All god’s chillun got guns. No, you are thinking of uvulas. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23564 "2018-07-28T20:56:24Z")
Republicans take another step towards saying it is a good thing the Russians helped Trump defeat Hillary: [GOP Rep. Darrell Issa: ‘Nobody’s Going to be Surprised’ If Trump Lied About Russia Meeting](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/gop-rep-issa-nobodys-going-to-be-surprised-if-trump-lied-about-russia-meeting/amp/?__twitter_impression=true) > [@](#): > > “But what if he’s proven to be a liar, congressman?” Cavuto asked. > > “If he’s proven to have not told the whole truth about the fact that campaigns look for dirt, and if someone offers it, you listen to them, nobody’s going to be surprised,” Issa said. “There are some things in politics that you just take for granted.” > > You don’t think this has any long-term impact?” Cavuto asked. “He wouldn’t be the first politician, or president for that matter, to maybe just misrepresent things?” > > “Businessmen listen to almost everyone who might be helpful, and by the way, they make pragmatic decisions about how to make bad stories go away,” Issa replied. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1177) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1179)